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Sherade wrote:Yeah, but he ended up getting found and killed...in an unrelated incident.
Anyway, One nutty boombox was enough. You know bay will probably re name and give him a new head and bam, Soundwave.
BUT, if he was some easily portable or self moving device *yeahright* it might work.

There goes the "act like a duck" argument too

Sentinel Pax wrote:No vehicle mode, maybe, but a crafty and skilled minion like Lasebeak or Ravage could very easily get into a secure area and send the information right back to Soundwave. That's about as G1 a set up as there is.

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

There goes the "act like a duck" argument too

Look again. I said looks like a duck & quacks like a duck. My 3-year-old pointed him out in that pic without me even having to tell him who it was. & if he's anything like Cybertron Soundwave, he'll have the same vocoder voice.

Thus, duck.

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

Sentinel Pax wrote:No vehicle mode, maybe, but a crafty and skilled minion like Lasebeak or Ravage could very easily get into a secure area and send the information right back to Soundwave. That's about as G1 a set up as there is.

YOu know, I just got through watching "roll for it" with my son...& not only did Soundwave NOT transform the whole episode, when spy work was done, either Ravage or Reflector did the work. Soundwave never left Megatron's side.....er....except for the beginning where Megatron was on Cybertron due to the space bridge incident in the previous episode....

Tramp wrote:

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

There goes the "act like a duck" argument too

Look again. I said looks like a duck & quacks like a duck. My 3-year-old pointed him out in that pic without me even having to tell him who it was. & if he's anything like Cybertron Soundwave, he'll have the same vocoder voice.

Thus, duck.

The saying goes "Looks like a duck, acts like a duck, speaks like a Duck..."

A "Soundwave" with a Vehicle mode would not be able to fulfill the same types of missons that Soundwave does. He would thus not act like Soundwave. He would not be Soundwave. A good imitator can mimick the look and sound of something woithout actually being that thing. In order for Soundwave to be Soundwave, he has to be able to do everything that the original could. That means similar alternate mode, mass conversion, the monotone voice, simialr appearance, thoguh more detailed and more realistic looking to fit the movie aesthetic. He must be capable of fitting in anywhere indoors or outdoors, must be able to link up or carry his minions.

A vehicle mode is not in the least bit simialr to a tape deck. He would lose one of his key special abilities. He woudl not be able to fit in anywhere, indoors or out, and would be limited only to military bases. He would not be able to fulfill his missions.

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

DesalationReborn wrote:If Michael Bay makes a Transformer movie with a bubbling, flamingly homosexual Decepticon manicurist that transforms into a pink moped called 'Soundwave,' it's Soundwave. Plain and simple. No matter what we want, Soundwave will be what the producers want it to be, and he will still be "Soundwave," so now can we quit with the "if it's this, it's not Soundwave"? This is about what we think most represents the past character, but any new character will be Soundwave as well.

This is ultimately just about what we want. Saying 'people want Soundwave to be a boombox, so he should be a boombox' doesn't work as an argument for anything. People here, seemingly a good majority of people here, have stated they don't. And the 'my friend said, my professor said, Bill Clinton said' is just as good as fabrication-- hot air. So we are left with only posters opinions, which are still in talmut over the issue. So, when the evidence just doesn't add up, don't make the statement.

well put. Someday I'll be able to make the fancy words that make coherent thought....but in the meantime, I'll stick to ducks.

Sentinel Pax wrote:

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

Sentinel Pax wrote:No vehicle mode, maybe, but a crafty and skilled minion like Lasebeak or Ravage could very easily get into a secure area and send the information right back to Soundwave. That's about as G1 a set up as there is.

YOu know, I just got through watching "roll for it" with my son...& not only did Soundwave NOT transform the whole episode, when spy work was done, either Ravage or Reflector did the work. Soundwave never left Megatron's side.....er....except for the beginning where Megatron was on Cybertron due to the space bridge incident in the previous episode....

That's what I tried to tell Tramp on one of the last...what, ten pages? In almost every G1 episode out there, Soundwave used his minions to eavesdrop, and then played back whatever they found, and the latter quite often took place in robot mode. Why? Because a tape deck sitting there is just boring.

Tramp wrote:

Sentinel Pax wrote:

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

Sentinel Pax wrote:No vehicle mode, maybe, but a crafty and skilled minion like Lasebeak or Ravage could very easily get into a secure area and send the information right back to Soundwave. That's about as G1 a set up as there is.

YOu know, I just got through watching "roll for it" with my son...& not only did Soundwave NOT transform the whole episode, when spy work was done, either Ravage or Reflector did the work. Soundwave never left Megatron's side.....er....except for the beginning where Megatron was on Cybertron due to the space bridge incident in the previous episode....

That's what I tried to tell Tramp on one of the last...what, ten pages? In almost every G1 episode out there, Soundwave used his minions to eavesdrop, and then played back whatever they found, and the latter quite often took place in robot mode. Why? Because a tape deck sitting there is just boring.

Well, let's see, Soundwave uses his alternate mode to infiltrate a factory. Soundwave uses his alternate mode to get into Autobot hewadquarters. He used it to spy on Spike,



Yes, there are episodes where he never left Megatron's side. But there are many more where he personally infiltrated various facilities for informatin or for energon, using his alternate mode to blend in and clandesitnely survey the target.

DesalationReborn wrote:

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

DesalationReborn wrote:If Michael Bay makes a Transformer movie with a bubbling, flamingly homosexual Decepticon manicurist that transforms into a pink moped called 'Soundwave,' it's Soundwave. Plain and simple. No matter what we want, Soundwave will be what the producers want it to be, and he will still be "Soundwave," so now can we quit with the "if it's this, it's not Soundwave"? This is about what we think most represents the past character, but any new character will be Soundwave as well.

This is ultimately just about what we want. Saying 'people want Soundwave to be a boombox, so he should be a boombox' doesn't work as an argument for anything. People here, seemingly a good majority of people here, have stated they don't. And the 'my friend said, my professor said, Bill Clinton said' is just as good as fabrication-- hot air. So we are left with only posters opinions, which are still in talmut over the issue. So, when the evidence just doesn't add up, don't make the statement.

well put. Someday I'll be able to make the fancy words that make coherent thought....but in the meantime, I'll stick to ducks.

Meh-- ducks work. I have a special affinity for that type of waterfowl. Had some grazing in my front lawn just as I was coming home.

And, to make sure the argument held water, I skimmed the past 37 pages and got...

Don't want mass shifting (Most of which want a vehicle of some sort, a few want a big concert-class soundsystem):
48

Want mass shifting (Thus some sort of portable audio):

11

Give or take about 3 or so.

Shadowman wrote:All those pictures are from one episode.

Shadowman wrote:All those pictures are from one episode.