The Energon Pub

[First-Aid]

Yay for a Dino hopefully finally! and a new Jetfire and Sideswipe! I hope those are real.

What happened to Bonecrusher though? That is the guy I am dying for here!

Should still be there, in fact his product code (E3745) along with the new Optimus Prime's (E3747), fits like a charm among Leader Class Megatron's and Jetfire's

Makes me wonder if they are going to attempt the Jetfire/OP combination again in SS, or if Jetfire will remain just Jetfire, no armor mode.

Would be cool for them to revisit the idea and improve it though, much like I wish they would with Devastator

I was wondering that myself, on both Devy and Jet Optimus. There's been no indication though.

[Wolfman Jake]

They might be numbered but their exclusives and are not taking actual places in the Studio Series line away from any other potential figure.

Unless you wanted actual characters like Barricade and Sideswipe to be exclusives.

I think I mustn't understand how numbered lines work - I thought the numbers meant they were part of the Studio Series, even if not available at standard retail?

The numbers are for completionists (and because Takara has been doing that forever with Transformers lines. Remember, the Studio Series is a joint project between Hasbro and Takara, so this is a result of a merging of the two different companies' visions). Numbered releases don't mean an exclusion of exclusives. Just look at how Hasbro handled the "Thrilling 30" line with their 30 specially numbered exclusives that no sane person in the world would collect all of.

[Sabrblade]

They might be numbered but their exclusives and are not taking actual places in the Studio Series line away from any other potential figure.

Unless you wanted actual characters like Barricade and Sideswipe to be exclusives.

I think I mustn't understand how numbered lines work - I thought the numbers meant they were part of the Studio Series, even if not available at standard retail?

The numbers are for completionists (and because Takara has been doing that forever with Transformers lines. Remember, the Studio Series is a joint project between Hasbro and Takara, so this is a result of a merging of the two different companies' visions). Numbered releases don't mean an exclusion of exclusives. Just look at how Hasbro handled the "Thrilling 30" line with their 30 specially numbered exclusives that no sane person in the world would collect all of.

To be a little fair, the Thrilling 30 numbering was from the previous brand team rather than the current one.

[Seibertron]

SDCC 2018 EVENT GALLERY UPDATED WITH NEW AND CROPPED IMAGES!

Transformers Studio Series Movie products - Now with over 90+ images!


SDCC 2018 Transformers Exclusives - Now with over 40+ images!

[RotorstormNZ]

Thanks Wolfman, that's helpful. But:

Remember, the Studio Series is a joint project between Hasbro and Takara, so this is a result of a merging of the two different companies' visions).

My original post started with: "I wish I'd been at SDCC to ask John Warden and the team about when in the new movie we see the two different gold Bees and the four cassettes. I'm getting real tired of not-seen-on-screen characters/toys getting the SS treatment." This is something I'd love answered.

Ryan: I'm thoroughly enjoying your latest galleries as I listen to the very latest podcast, particularly the Studio Series and Bumblebee sections.

[Carnivius_Prime]

UK collectors:
Kapow Toys has Studio Ironhide and the DNA upgrade kit for Megatron for pre-order.

https://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/transformer ... nhide.html

https://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/dna-design- ... bonus.html

[Rodimus Prime]

I'm guessing there will be no leader class Megatron or Shockwave from DoTM included in this line?

Also, what is the consensus on the first voyager SS Starscream?

[Qwan]

Also, what is the consensus on the first voyager SS Starscream?

Pretty much everyone loves him, as far as I can tell! I know personally, he actually made me feel a little bit of respect for the Movie Starscream design, which is an incredible achievement in and of itself. Fun toy, would recommend above any other Studio Series toy so far.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I'm guessing there will be no leader class Megatron or Shockwave from DoTM included in this line?

See the mixed Amazon AU listings I pulled apart

[Autobot Roadburn]

Also, what is the consensus on the first voyager SS Starscream?

Pretty much everyone loves him, as far as I can tell! I know personally, he actually made me feel a little bit of respect for the Movie Starscream design, which is an incredible achievement in and of itself. Fun toy, would recommend above any other Studio Series toy so far.

Totally agree. He's the best version of that character I have. For the record, always loved his design myself. I got into Transformers around the movie era (a bit of Armada, but my mom banned me from watching it because Cyclonus I think called another Con an idiot) so he was close to the first Starscream I saw in general.

[Carnivius_Prime]

Totally agree. He's the best version of that character I have. For the record, always loved his design myself. I got into Transformers around the movie era (a bit of Armada, but my mom banned me from watching it because Cyclonus I think called another Con an idiot) so he was close to the first Starscream I saw in general.

Wasn't even close to the first one I saw (first got into TFs back in the 80's like a lot of folk my age) yet he's my fave incarnation of the character even just from his unique design and the Studio toy does a great job of replicating it and has lots of detail and a fun transformation into a realistic jet mode (with minimal junk underneath) and I'm definitely buying me the RotF version too.

[-Kanrabat-]

I'm guessing there will be no leader class Megatron or Shockwave from DoTM included in this line?

Also, what is the consensus on the first voyager SS Starscream?

My guess is everyone hate it. In 2007, people must have been salty over the designs. Plus that Starscream had a very ackward vehicle mode. However, I LOVE it. The transformation is simple yet effective, the automorph gimmick is brilliantly executed, and the bot look like a powerful bruiser.

Plus it's awesome custom fodder.

I'm guessing there will be no leader class Megatron or Shockwave from DoTM included in this line?

Also, what is the consensus on the first voyager SS Starscream?

Oh....
Some people dissmiss it as just a Wei Jiang'd DOTM deluxe. But one don't have to may much attention to see that the redesign is far more extensive than that. The DOTM deluxe is universally loved. The took something amazing and made it perfect. It's as simple as that.

[Carnivius_Prime]

The DOTM deluxe is universally loved. The took something amazing and made it perfect. It's as simple as that.

Yeah I thought the Deluxe figure was a nice bit of engineering genius in how it managed a great looking jet and more accurate robot mode than the previous voyager attempts and it was a fun toy to play with, just far too small to scale with other figures. I almost bought an upscaled KO last year because I didn't actually think Hasbro/Takara would ever fulfil my wish for that figure by making a larger version and they went and did anyways and improved on it so even for that itself I love it (and adding flight stand ports in both modes helps nicely too)

[o.supreme]

OK guys, done dissecting the mixed listings, as expected Studio Series entries may have been in there, tho not many:

Leader Class
Jetfire
Megatron

These seem a bit puzzling. IMHO, the character's size should not change , unless their alt mode radically changed from movie to movie. I guess I could make a concession if this Megatorn is from Movie 1 or Movie 5. The first Megatron was shown to be a little taller than Optimus. So it would have to be small for a leader, since he was nowhere as big as Grimlock in AoE.

Jetfire even more so. I mean I doubt they will work in the combination gimmick since we already have a RotF Voyager Optimus, because having a leader composed of *parts* for a voyager would look a little funky I would think. Major Props if they can make that work...because these would be the two figures from the line I would actually purchase...But still seems a little iffy to me.

I mean ones I could easily see changing would be if they made a RotF Soundwave (though his satellite form never transformed), if this was a Voyager or Leader, then doing to Deluxe in DotM since he was an automobile in that movie.

[Carnivius_Prime]

These seem a bit puzzling. IMHO, the character's size should not change , unless their alt mode radically changed from movie to movie. I guess I could make a concession if this Megatorn is from Movie 1 or Movie 5. The first Megatron was shown to be a little taller than Optimus. So it would have to be small for a leader, since he was nowhere as big as Grimlock in AoE.

I think SS Grimlock is a lost cause for scaling since it's far too small a figure compared to how huge Grimlock in the movies is. And still voyager RotF Megatron isn't a massive difference in height to it anyways.

Jetfire even more so. I mean I doubt they will work in the combination gimmick since we already have a RotF Voyager Optimus, because having a leader composed of *parts* for a voyager would look a little funky I would think.

Eh I dunno. This pic makes me think of a Voyager Prime being inserted into a Leader Jetfire sorta thing. Basically if somehow folding away Jetfire's head and torso or removing it completely.

[o.supreme]

Eh I dunno. This pic makes me think of a Voyager Prime being inserted into a Leader Jetfire sorta thing. Basically if somehow folding away Jetfire's head and torso or removing it completely.

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You make a valid point there, I stand corrected. Still... It's probably going to be nearly a year before we see Leader Jetfire in stores. It would be nice to know in advance if the combining gimmick will be designed or not. It would be nice to purchase Voyager Optimus Prime now, while he is easily available, as opposed to this time next year, when he wont be available anymore.

[Carnivius_Prime]

You make a valid point there, I stand corrected. Still... It's probably going to be nearly a year before we see Leader Jetfire in stores. It would be nice to know in advance if the combining gimmick will be designed or not. It would be nice to purchase Voyager Optimus Prime now, while he is easily available, as opposed to this time next year, when he wont be available anymore.

Yeah, hard to speculate on what Hasbro might do and whether a Leader Jetfire would combine with the current Voyager Prime. I'm quite happy to have Prime now anyways as he's a really fun figure and looks great (after some paint and stickers applied for more accuracy) and if I wasn't that attached to it I could always eBay it at a later date if I chose to. Have to see what happens. Don't even know yet if Jetfire will Leader sized like Grimlock or Leader sized like Blackout

The RotF scale chat does make it clear than Jetfire is supposed to be huge compared to Optimus though so Prime as a voyager and Jetfire as a Leader makes sense I guess (even if the jetpower Optimus image they use does appear to have Optimus himself look bigger than the pic of him next to it).

Optimus at 28 feet.
Jetfire at 50 feet.
Jetpower Optimus at 40 feet.
Megatron at 35 feet.

https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/e/ ... ts2-1-.jpg

Still wouldn't mind a toy of that Osprey by the way, Hasbro.

Anyways I'm off for the night. Third performance of the musical I'm in. Have fun, Transformers dudes.

[-Kanrabat-]

A leader Jetfire combined with a voyager Optimus would work MUCH better than the two leaders we got in ROTF.

[RotorstormNZ]

Still wouldn't mind a toy of that Osprey by the way, Hasbro.

Studio Series Incinerator is pretty high on my "SS That Won't Happen But I Want" list! Along with Breakaway - such a fun little toy, so fun in the ROTF Xbox game.

[Carnivius_Prime]

Still wouldn't mind a toy of that Osprey by the way, Hasbro.

Studio Series Incinerator is pretty high on my "SS That Won't Happen But I Want" list! Along with Breakaway - such a fun little toy, so fun in the ROTF Xbox game.

Ah yeah the Osprey from the first film. Cool.

I just really like the RotF Osprey robot too which they called Springer for the Legends toy.




A Studio Series voyager would be awesome.

[RotorstormNZ]

Hear hear!

[Deadput]

The RotF scale chat does make it clear than Jetfire is supposed to be huge compared to Optimus though so Prime as a voyager and Jetfire as a Leader makes sense I guess (even if the jetpower Optimus image they use does appear to have Optimus himself look bigger than the pic of him next to it).

Optimus at 28 feet.
Jetfire at 50 feet.
Jetpower Optimus at 40 feet.
Megatron at 35 feet.

https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/e/ ... ts2-1-.jpg

Still wouldn't mind a toy of that Osprey by the way, Hasbro.

Anyways I'm off for the night. Third performance of the musical I'm in. Have fun, Transformers dudes.

Since your bringing up a scale chart here is a great one from Red Goblin (He has a few others too)

[Carnivius_Prime]

Since your bringing up a scale chart here is a great one from Red Goblin (He has a few others too)

Lookit all the Autobots smaller than Bumblebee on that chart. If Hasbro/Takara are using this sort of thing as a guide got me thinking. If people thought Studio Jazz was too small to be worth it (not me, I love the lil dude) then they ain't gonna be happy with Sideswipe (can they downscale the excellent Sidearms mold?), Drift (his AoE figure is a head taller than Studio Jazz), Dino and others. Gonna be interesting to see what happens anyways. Skids and Mudflap are tiny there, could they have decent looking correct scale toys that still transform well? And the Arcee triplets... Basically Legends class there. Speaking of which I tend to use Legends Ravage as my main movie Ravage figure anyways so I haven't even considered a Studio version of him unless it was to come with Soundwave (though probably make more sense to have Soundwave on his own, so a minion doesn't cut into his budget, and package Ravage with Laserbeak and possibly another smaller con, Frenzy perhaps, to save on Barricade's budget).

[Deadput]

Since your bringing up a scale chart here is a great one from Red Goblin (He has a few others too)

Lookit all the Autobots smaller than Bumblebee on that chart. If Hasbro/Takara are using this sort of thing as a guide got me thinking. If people thought Studio Jazz was too small to be worth it (not me, I love the lil dude) then they ain't gonna be happy with Sideswipe (can they downscale the excellent Sidearms mold?), Drift (his AoE figure is a head taller than Studio Jazz), Dino and others. Gonna be interesting to see what happens anyways. Skids and Mudflap are tiny there, could they have decent looking correct scale toys that still transform well? And the Arcee triplets... Basically Legends class there. Speaking of which I tend to use Legends Ravage as my main movie Ravage figure anyways so I haven't even considered a Studio version of him unless it was to come with Soundwave (though probably make more sense to have Soundwave on his own, so a minion doesn't cut into his budget, and package Ravage with Laserbeak and possibly another smaller con, Frenzy perhaps, to save on Barricade's budget).

Yeah outside of Bee and Crosshairs (and I guess Roadbuster too) the car Autobots are actually quite smaller then the movie makes you think thanks to perspective and such.

As for the Twins their about the same height as VW Bumblebee from the upcoming movie so I assume SS toys of them would be around his height.

[First-Aid]

A leader Jetfire combined with a voyager Optimus would work MUCH better than the two leaders we got in ROTF.

100% agreement there. It just seems like it would work so much better.

ANd be considerably less lame than that pathetic version they came out with.