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Kelsey Grammer's character was one of AOE's high points IMO. Chilling and professional. He nailed that role. The last section of the movie with his villainous breakdown seemed a little stupid, though. He worked best behind a desk, not running around trying to shoot Mark Wahlberg.

Harold Attinger was so great.The Razzies really need to go home.They are drunk!If I could award the Razzies ,I would award the Worst choice for nominees ever! to them.

Wait, did Grammer actually get it for AoE, or was it for The Expendables? Or just in general?

"Attempted-murder, now really, what is that?"

Meh, "worst" performances will often go to a known name that you didn't expect to see in movie-X, rather that the absolute worst, right? And even then, sometimes a bad performance honestly suits the part. The guy who played Lucas dang near earned it in the first half hour, but it's not like a stereotype beach-bum warranted any actor's finest output, and that made it so sweet when he died.

Sweet and tangy. With a hint of cilantro.

In case I'm being unclear, because Lockdown's disposal of Lucas seemed to be Bay's attempt at symbolically breaking from the dumbass human characters that defined the first trilogy (not saying he entirely succeeded) his charred corpse was so beautiful, it literally made me f%#@ing HUNGRY!!!

That's why I never got the complaints about the amount of product placement in AofE: Even after 5 viewings, I couldn't tell what the fast food tie-in was. If I had, I'd have gone there and eaten the flame-broiled Lucas combo immediately after each show. (Was it BK again?) Now, if Lockdown had made optimum use of his resources and melted Lucas down into fuel before driving off, I'd have had a Bud Light/Red Bull/Chinese-milk-in-a-juice-box cocktail. But he didn't.

Sorry that's a bit off topic, but it's been burning inside me for months. Is there a Razzie for best/worst product placement, BTW?

?!...NO, I'm not into vore, Lucas' corpse made me platonically hungry! Sheesh.

Deathsanras wrote:Wait, did Grammer actually get it for AoE, or was it for The Expendables? Or just in general?

that'd be my question too.

i think grammers got a great gift for playing a baddie. alot more versatile than i thought he'd be from the "fraszer" days.



attinger was a fantastic turn from him and was some of the more interesting stuff in the film.

Clarification about Grammer (if you click on the image): he got it for Expendables 3, Legends of Oz, Think Like a Man Too and Transformers 4: Age of Extinction.

This is why I hate human kind. Of damn course Michael Bay won for "worst director," because it's the cool thing to do, to hate on and talk **** about him for no reason. The amount of ignorance is baffling.

SlyTF1 wrote:This is why I hate human kind. Of damn course Michael Bay won for "worst director," because it's the cool thing to do, to hate on and talk **** about him for no reason. The amount of ignorance is baffling.

There are much better reasons to hate human kind. For example, I know a certain forum where fans of the same property (*cough* transformers *cough*) are complete a-holes to each other because they like different iterations of the same thing.

I think that Age of Extinction was far from the worst movie of 2014, but still I hope that Michael Bay will get worst director reward. This would been the most just verdict, without hurting anyone.

Nicola Peltz should've gotten that award. She wasterrible, but I loved Kelsey Grammer in AoE.

SlyTF1 wrote:This is why I hate human kind. Of damn course Michael Bay won for "worst director," because it's the cool thing to do, to hate on and talk **** about him for no reason. The amount of ignorance is baffling.

As opposed to what, your single minded obsession with defending any and all Michael Bay Transformer movies?

Oh no! Someone dissed the movies! Someone said something bad about Michael Bay! But wait, here comes SlyTF1, Bay's very own knight in shining armour swooping in to insult and ridicule those mean mean people!

Get off your high horse and open your eyes, you want to talk ignorant? Take a good long look in the mirror. Anyone getting butthurt over the Razzies is an ignorant fool. The Razzies began, and exist, as a mock towards the Oscars, to honour those movies that just weren't so great.

They're not meant to be taken seriously.
They're not going to change people's opinions on movies
They're not going to affect the profits made
They're not going to ruin your childhood.

What they do is give people like me, a chance to mock and laugh at fools like you who ignorantly rush to defend those movies the Razzies honour.

Go crawl back into your hole. The rest of humanity will be here when you grow up.

A haiku.

Age of Extinction.
A whole new chapter, they said.
BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

Bay very deservedly is the 'worst director'. It's getting to the point now where ALL of his movies feel like you're being forced to watch "Armageddon" over and over again.

But Grammar? That's a head-scratcher. I saw the movie on DVD for the first time over Christmas (and that only because I had a free Redbox ticket). And I thought of all the characters, his was just fine. Granted ALL of the characters in Bay's movies are the same stock cardboard cut-outs, but Grammar seemed OK.

Maybe it's because he's one of the only conservative-leaning actors left in Hollywood, and they want to stick it to him somehow as punishment for not being a good little liberal moonbat like everyone else.

Normally i would defend Transformers, but in this case i am making an exception.

TF4 was a horrible movie that didn't deserve the voice talent nor the name Transformers.

I don't know how Michael Bay did it but he managed to make each sequel worse than the one before.

Burn wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:This is why I hate human kind. Of damn course Michael Bay won for "worst director," because it's the cool thing to do, to hate on and talk **** about him for no reason. The amount of ignorance is baffling.

As opposed to what, your single minded obsession with defending any and all Michael Bay Transformer movies?

Oh no! Someone dissed the movies! Someone said something bad about Michael Bay! But wait, here comes SlyTF1, Bay's very own knight in shining armour swooping in to insult and ridicule those mean mean people!

Get off your high horse and open your eyes, you want to talk ignorant? Take a good long look in the mirror. Anyone getting butthurt over the Razzies is an ignorant fool. The Razzies began, and exist, as a mock towards the Oscars, to honour those movies that just weren't so great.

They're not meant to be taken seriously.
They're not going to change people's opinions on movies
They're not going to affect the profits made
They're not going to ruin your childhood.

What they do is give people like me, a chance to mock and laugh at fools like you who ignorantly rush to defend those movies the Razzies honour.

Go crawl back into your hole. The rest of humanity will be here when you grow up.

I'm not mad about a stupid "award." I'm pissed that the only thing on the planet that I care about seems to be the punching bag of the world, just because one guy had a single thing to do with it.

SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not mad about a stupid "award." I'm pissed that the only thing on the planet that I care about seems to be the punching bag of the world, just because one guy had a single thing to do with it.

They have other uses too ... but I doubt you'll know what, so just use them to dry your eyes and wipe up those sniffles.

Grammer is a great actor, whoever picked him for worst is stupid, as are these awards, apparently.

i glad it won worst pic at the Razzies.

it proves to me time and time again at what a terrible director bay is and how goddamn awful this TF franchise has been.

to each their own for liking this garabage, but as a tf fan since i was 5, ive never seen such a dis-service to my beloved Tf, Never would i have imagine optimus prime to utter things like ILL KILL U, i never felt prime had the honour he is known for in these movies.......most of the characters to me in the movies were hollow 1 dimensiononal, i personally didnt care for any of them.......and wft was the point of the dinobots, they did nothing! they didnt even bloody speak!

as for grammer winning the razzie, they shoulda gave it to marky marky, hands down the worst performance ive seen in a while.......and the funny thing is hes a good actor! goes to show u what bay does with anything that has talent, he kills their performances.......

Optimum Supreme wrote:Grammer is a great actor, whoever picked him for worst is stupid, as are these awards, apparently.

He was nominated for a number of different movies, not just his AoE role. And even great actors can have a bad run now and then.

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:i glad it won worst pic at the Razzies.

Except ... it didn't. So your rant is kinda pointless there mate.

my mistake, it should have! utter garabage.......but bay did win for worst pile of crap director, so there is some right in the world.....

my rant is exaclty pointless, the movie is still the worst pile of dung ive seen in years........even ROTF was better, and thats saying a lot. so mate to each their own

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:my mistake, it should have! utter garabage.......but bay did win for worst pile of crap director, so there is some right in the world.....

my rant is exaclty pointless, the movie is still the worst pile of dung ive seen in years........even ROTF was better, and thats saying a lot. so mate to each their own

So your mad at Bay because of your childhood?

Who cares exactly?

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:.but bay did win for worst pile of crap director, so there is some right in the world.....

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:so there is some right in the world.....

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:right in the world.....

Don't tell me you actually believe what you say?

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:my rant is exaclty pointless,

Your words, not mine.

lol, u know i meant isnt lol.........

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:.but bay did win for worst pile of crap director, so there is some right in the world.....

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:so there is some right in the world.....

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:right in the world.....

Don't tell me you actually believe what you say?

um yea i do believe what i say, bay sucks and so does the TF franchise, im sorry if your butt hurt and cant believe that there are ppl who love and collect tfs that absolutely hate bay and his pile of crap movies............

so yea i do believe what im saying.........