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he does look like a bionicle head! are these toys out?

Loving Landmine and the packaging itself. Finally the autobot count is increasing. I think the Autobots will outnumber the Decepticons in this line since the 'real' movie line had way more different Decepticons than Autobots. I just wish they would have actual different molds instead of simply repaints. But Landmine really rocks.

I always said that Swindle would look much cooler with a decent paint job. I was wrong!!!

I'll be buying these figs, all of them! I want to be a completionist for the line, but without the battle scenes. Yeah, I'm gonna keep trying to convince myself this is possible. I just don't see the point in getting those.

When the time comes, and I see one at a store ... we'll see if I buy or not. I kinda went off on a tangent here. Hey, it's page 6 and it 5 am.

I'm definitely going to get Landmine!

Forget the other 2.

god they r all great and the bb repaint cliffjumper rules i want to get them all but i dont know why is landmine with sector 7?!!!!

Shouldn't Landmine be a scout or are dune buggies as big as Saturn Ions?

sliverbrich wrote:god they r all great and the bb repaint cliffjumper rules i want to get them all but i dont know why is landmine with sector 7?!!!!

Landmine wouldn't be associated with Sector 7. It's just a disguise.

Much like Barricade in a police car mode. But he has nothing to do with the police force.

G1Blaster wrote:Shouldn't Landmine be a scout or are dune buggies as big as Saturn Ions?

Why start going in scale now? There are Deluxe figures that are barely bigger than a human (Arcee) and ones that would stand 50 feet tall (Dreadwing). Yes, for scale-accurate with most of the line, I'm thinking he should be Scout, but for that we have Hardtop.

I still can't digest why Hardtop has to undergo repainting and be included in the Movie toys.

Scaleface wrote:

G1Blaster wrote:Shouldn't Landmine be a scout or are dune buggies as big as Saturn Ions?

Why start going in scale now? There are Deluxe figures that are barely bigger than a human (Arcee) and ones that would stand 50 feet tall (Dreadwing). Yes, for scale-accurate with most of the line, I'm thinking he should be Scout, but for that we have Hardtop.

I only buy the figures that are in scale with one another. Kind of a pet peeve I have in this line. The only exception has been Arcee (because she's hot) and will be the Voyager G1 repaint Prime.

I haven't bought Starscream, Bonecrusher, Payload and others because of their sizes. Like I said, just a pet peeve I have only for this line.

G1Blaster wrote:

Scaleface wrote:

G1Blaster wrote:Shouldn't Landmine be a scout or are dune buggies as big as Saturn Ions?

Why start going in scale now? There are Deluxe figures that are barely bigger than a human (Arcee) and ones that would stand 50 feet tall (Dreadwing). Yes, for scale-accurate with most of the line, I'm thinking he should be Scout, but for that we have Hardtop.

I only buy the figures that are in scale with one another. Kind of a pet peeve I have in this line. The only exception has been Arcee (because she's hot) and will be the Voyager G1 repaint Prime.

I haven't bought Starscream, Bonecrusher, Payload and others because of their sizes. Like I said, just a pet peeve I have only for this line.

Landmine looks ok with the other Deluxe. Not too far off.

G1Blaster wrote:I only buy the figures that are in scale with one another. Kind of a pet peeve I have in this line. The only exception has been Arcee (because she's hot) and will be the Voyager G1 repaint Prime.

I haven't bought Starscream, Bonecrusher, Payload and others because of their sizes. Like I said, just a pet peeve I have only for this line.

Obviously there has to be some leyway with toys, but what figure would you say represents the scale you like to collect other toys to match? Most of the Deluxe sized cars from the movie line (Bumblebee, Jazz, Barricade, Swindle) are about 1/28 scale to 1/34 scale. Leader Brawl, Optimus, Megatron, the Voyager Ironhide and Ratchet all vit pretty close to this too.

Toys like Bonecrusher, Deluxe Brawl, and even Voyager Starscream and Blackout are much too small to fit in with the previously mentioned. Heck, Starscream alone should be a Supreme figure with his alt mode.

Well I'm with G1Blaster. I try to stick as close as possible. The Autobots are the easiest to keep faithful to this scale. But I did buy Bonecrusher, Leader Megs, Blackout and Wreckage because they are cool in their own right to have some leeway.

The only 'Cons I have are Swindle and Leader Brawl. Isn't the only one I'm missing who's actually in scale Barricade?

G1Blaster wrote:The only 'Cons I have are Swindle and Leader Brawl. Isn't the only one I'm missing who's actually in scale Barricade?

Leader Megatron could pass off as being in scale as well. His jet mode is HUGE, even for a Leader-sized toy.

Skowl wrote:

G1Blaster wrote:The only 'Cons I have are Swindle and Leader Brawl. Isn't the only one I'm missing who's actually in scale Barricade?

Leader Megatron could pass off as being in scale as well. His jet mode is HUGE, even for a Leader-sized toy.

Too bad the paint job is utter ass.

Movie Leader Megatron is 1/42 scale, if you go by the heights given in the official literature. So if anything he should be BIGGER than he is if in scale with the Autobot cars. Remember he should stand nearly x3 the height of Jazz (an so proportionately he would be 64 times the mass of Jazz!).

Voyager Megatron is 1/59 scale (more in line with a Spychanger car!), Fast Action Battler is 1/71 scale (in scale with Star Wars Darth Vader Tie Fighter) and Legends is 1/142 scale (close to the scale of Sky Lynx, if he is the size of a REAL Space Shuttle)!

The strange thing is that if you read the prequel comic, Megatron looks pretty small - there's this pic of him holding bumblebee by the neck and he's not much bigger. And they change sizes - Prime is quite obviously smaller than Megs.

And indeed, Leader Meg's jet mode is massive. His robot mode could be a bit taller though.

sliverbrich wrote:god they r all great and the bb repaint cliffjumper rules i want to get them all but i dont know why is landmine with sector 7?!!!!

They're just toys you know. No logic required... except for fans.

Are those small springs I see between Landmine's wheels, wow real suspension, I hope it doesn't make him fragile though.

Btw, I totally dig how the seats on Landmine transform into his hands.

G1Blaster wrote:

Skowl wrote:

G1Blaster wrote:The only 'Cons I have are Swindle and Leader Brawl. Isn't the only one I'm missing who's actually in scale Barricade?

Leader Megatron could pass off as being in scale as well. His jet mode is HUGE, even for a Leader-sized toy.

Too bad the paint job is utter ass.

Movie Megatron can be anything. Nobody knows what a real Cybertronian jet is. It make no sense to mention "scale" with Megatron.

Scaleface wrote:Movie Leader Megatron is 1/42 scale, if you go by the heights given in the official literature. So if anything he should be BIGGER than he is if in scale with the Autobot cars. Remember he should stand nearly x3 the height of Jazz (an so proportionately he would be 64 times the mass of Jazz!).

Voyager Megatron is 1/59 scale (more in line with a Spychanger car!), Fast Action Battler is 1/71 scale (in scale with Star Wars Darth Vader Tie Fighter) and Legends is 1/142 scale (close to the scale of Sky Lynx, if he is the size of a REAL Space Shuttle)!

Very good research on scale, Scaleface.

Scaleface wrote:

G1Blaster wrote:I only buy the figures that are in scale with one another. Kind of a pet peeve I have in this line. The only exception has been Arcee (because she's hot) and will be the Voyager G1 repaint Prime.

I haven't bought Starscream, Bonecrusher, Payload and others because of their sizes. Like I said, just a pet peeve I have only for this line.

Obviously there has to be some leyway with toys, but what figure would you say represents the scale you like to collect other toys to match? Most of the Deluxe sized cars from the movie line (Bumblebee, Jazz, Barricade, Swindle) are about 1/28 scale to 1/34 scale. Leader Brawl, Optimus, Megatron, the Voyager Ironhide and Ratchet all vit pretty close to this too.

Toys like Bonecrusher, Deluxe Brawl, and even Voyager Starscream and Blackout are much too small to fit in with the previously mentioned. Heck, Starscream alone should be a Supreme figure with his alt mode.

I'd like all Movie toys to be in 1/34 scale. But that could be too big for Starscream and other airborne vehicles.

If they can make the same details and transformation on a BB 1/60 scale, i'll take all of them in 1/60!

If don't find any Concept BBs, I'll console myself with CJ