The Energon Pub

News Credits: 9 · by **Mykltron** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:39 am

I;m liking the bot modes more than the other version, where the track-vehicles have horrible empty knees.

The shoulder articulation on the gestalt is still going to be limited unless the sockets are on pivots or these two can be miss-transformed somehow.

News Credits: 7 · by **Geekee1** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:50 am

Hmmm... They don't really fit my aesthetic style and I'm not a fan of the heads at all, but they do seem nice overall. It'll be interesting to see how the rest come along.

by **StillPlayswToys** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:42 am

I really wish Hasbro/Takara would get their acts together in the Devastator space. How awesome would a Transformers Prime Devastator be? Jeez, I'm such a dork.

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:34 pm

SO these figs are coming in two packs? What is the cost on them?

Am I the only one that gets a serious RiD Wedge vibe from Bulldozeer? Paint him orange and look at the similarity.

by **AutobotCliffjumper** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:59 pm

First-Aid wrote:SO these figs are coming in two packs? What is the cost on them?

Am I the only one that gets a serious RiD Wedge vibe from Bulldozeer? Paint him orange and look at the similarity.

From what I've heard, it will be about $140 for a two pack and there are 3 sets. So 6 figures are appoximately $420?

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:16 pm

AutobotCliffjumper wrote:
First-Aid wrote:SO these figs are coming in two packs? What is the cost on them?

Am I the only one that gets a serious RiD Wedge vibe from Bulldozeer? Paint him orange and look at the similarity.

From what I've heard, it will be about $140 for a two pack and there are 3 sets. So 6 figures are appoximately $420?

So, $420 for figures that are roughly half the size of Hercules? That is significantly disappointing.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:24 pm

AutobotCliffjumper wrote:
First-Aid wrote:SO these figs are coming in two packs? What is the cost on them?

Am I the only one that gets a serious RiD Wedge vibe from Bulldozeer? Paint him orange and look at the similarity.

From what I've heard, it will be about $140 for a two pack and there are 3 sets. So 6 figures are appoximately $420?

well, where I usually buy from it's £100 for a Giant 2pack or £70 for a single member of Hercules. Not a difficult decision for me, monetarily speaking. I am holding out for the green Giant gift-set though, so hoping it'll not be any more expensive than the combined price of the 2 packs.

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:07 pm

First-Aid wrote:So, $420 for figures that are roughly half the size of Hercules? That is significantly disappointing.

While MakeToy's figures are smaller than TFC's, saying they're "roughly half the size" is kind of selling them short. :lol:

TFC's figures are small voyager sized, while what we've seen so far suggests MakeToy's are medium to small deluxe sized.

I'm very happy with TFC's figures as my Classics Constructicons, but if I'm able to scrape together enough money I'd certainly pick this set up just for the hell of it (a reason that doesn't usually fly with me).

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:34 pm

Oilspill wrote:These look really good, but I don't need them. I already have Hercules (which I still like more).

Now if Maketoys had turned their talents to a combiner that hadn't been done yet, like Defensor or Computron or Abominus, I'd be all over these. Leokaiser would be great too, since most people don't own a G1 Leokaiser it would be a great opportunity for many collectors.

Anyway, this gives me confidence in their abilities and I'm looking forward to their next project. I just wish 3rd parties would stop re-treading the same ground as each other.

This. it's nice... but I'll be completing Hercules this week.

by **AutobotCliffjumper** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:36 pm

First-Aid wrote:
AutobotCliffjumper wrote:
First-Aid wrote:SO these figs are coming in two packs? What is the cost on them?

Am I the only one that gets a serious RiD Wedge vibe from Bulldozeer? Paint him orange and look at the similarity.

From what I've heard, it will be about $140 for a two pack and there are 3 sets. So 6 figures are appoximately $420?

So, $420 for figures that are roughly half the size of Hercules? That is significantly disappointing.

I think you might be under estimating Giant if you sear for size comparisons for both Hercules and Giant you will see that they are compared with Primus and RTS Laser Prime...here is a picture for reference.

Here is my picture comparison of Primus and RTS Laser Prime:

Primus's head is about the same height as Hercules's head and Giant is a little over 2 RTS Laser Primes tall (counting the top of the shoulders). As you can see, he is clearly not "roughly half the size". I just took the picture while rushing out the door, so Laser Prime is not as close to Primus as I wanted him to be. Anyways, I think I'm going for Giant #1 for the price and #2 because I like the beefy chest and visor.

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:35 pm

They may not be perfect, but they're pretty damn good. Definitely looking forward to the green ones.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:47 pm

Rated X wrote:I think im gonna pass on the figures, but I do want to try that Japanese "Fire" beer !!!

Haha... That's not beer. That's Japanese coffee in a can, and I recommend staying away from it.

I am concerned about Bonecrusher's forearms. They look fragile with plastic only on two sides?

by **NTESHFT** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:57 pm

Wasn't there a size comparison thread on here not too long ago? If the pic that was on that thread was correct, Giant is not "half the size" of Hercules....... in fact it was not nearly that much of a difference in size. From what I have see, Giant is as tall as Bruticus........

by **MINDVVIPE** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:00 pm

headsortails wrote:Giant is not "half the size" of Hercules....... in fact it was not nearly that much of a difference in size. From what I have see, Giant is as tall as Bruticus........

You are correct. And I still maintain that Giant looks way better than Herc. Its just that some of the individual figures are a bit less exciting aesthetically. But I mean... the combined form is what matters most here.

by **donnie_707** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:31 pm

headsortails wrote:Wasn't there a size comparison thread on here not too long ago? If the pic that was on that thread was correct, Giant is not "half the size" of Hercules....... in fact it was not nearly that much of a difference in size. From what I have see, Giant is as tall as Bruticus........

not much of a size difference? dont know if youve seen any comparison pics but herc TOWERS over bruticus......and giant is only the same size as brut? aesthetically i prefer herc over giant.....i just cant get over giants head being buried so deep inside his shoulders and chest. giant is awesome in his own right....but IMO, herc is the superior of the 2

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:04 am

These looks really nice. Wish they went with Energon connectors instead of a new kind (was really hoping those were just for the arms), but it isn't a big deal. I'd be more excited if I didn't just ship out the last Herc part.

I don't get why they didn't just make all the eyes red.

News Credits: 5 · by **alexison** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:25 am

I love the looks of these guys. Aesthetically, I don't think these things could appeal to me any more than they already do. I'm hoping TFSource carries them since they have picked up MT's previous two releases. I'm already sold on the G1 repaints of Giant, seriously contemplating this set too.

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:26 am

Not sure how much this will help regarding size, but here the video Encline did a while back.

by **MINDVVIPE** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:58 am

The head and porpotions are so much nicer on giant... the heels, the huge wheels on the thighs and waist, that huge rifle. So badass. Herc isn't bad, but I for one feel Giant is better.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:13 am

It's pretty pointless to argue about which one looks better as it's purely a matter of preference. You'll find plenty on each side that insist 'theirs' looks better in every mode...and neither is right...or wrong.

As for size, it appears Herc is probably about an inch and a half taller head to toe than Giant will be, but going by their highest natural points (not counting optional positioning of the crane or blade on Herc) it looks to be less than an inch...maybe only half an inch. Herc does look to be more 'beefy', but it doesn't look like he'll tower over Giant. In other words, too much seems to be made over the size difference...

by **NTESHFT** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:02 pm

donnie_707 wrote:
headsortails wrote:Wasn't there a size comparison thread on here not too long ago? If the pic that was on that thread was correct, Giant is not "half the size" of Hercules....... in fact it was not nearly that much of a difference in size. From what I have see, Giant is as tall as Bruticus........

not much of a size difference? dont know if youve seen any comparison pics but herc TOWERS over bruticus......and giant is only the same size as brut? aesthetically i prefer herc over giant.....i just cant get over giants head being buried so deep inside his shoulders and chest. giant is awesome in his own right....but IMO, herc is the superior of the 2

No.... there isn't that much a size difference. There were pics posted of them together. Herc may be only about an inch and a 1/2 taller. That isn't "towering" over Bruticus.........

News Credits: 3 · by **metaphorge** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:17 pm

headsortails wrote:No.... there isn't that much a size difference. There were pics posted of them together. Herc may be only about an inch and a 1/2 taller. That isn't "towering" over Bruticus.........

Um... the height difference is kind of like the difference between a Voyager and a Deluxe (unless you're wanting to count highest point to highest point; I'm looking at the comparison of eye levels)....

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:45 pm

Giant is taller than Bruticus. Giant's head should come up to about the top of Herc's chest.

News Credits: 3 · by **metaphorge** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:47 pm

Kibble wrote:Giant is taller than Bruticus. Giant should come up to about the top of Herc's chest.

Yeah, I figure the difference isn't all that great between Giant and Herc, but there is quite a difference between Herc and Bruticus.

by **Gurgintius Maximus** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:48 pm

These seem to be a pretty decent version of Dev.

I hold no ill feelings tward this set and I get preferring them for scale reasons or whatnot but I am sitting here looking a Herc and viewing Giants pics, and there is a huge difference in ...class, for lack of a better term at the moment.

These guys are not more G1 nor do they appear to be of better quality. While a nice set in their own right, Herc is without question the gold standard. To say otherwise is wishfull thinking at best and compensating for not picking the right horse at worst.

They are cheaper for a reason and its not because MT is doing folks a solid.

If you are still on the fence with this get Herc cause I swear, pics simply do not do him justice.

He is 5 kinds of epic

Really not trying to flame MT version here, just case closed as far as I am concerned having final product in hand.

And yes I realize I cant say that about Giant but I really was consitering getting both and have absolutely no desire to anymore. This guy is flawless.