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I picked up Smokescreen and Ripclaw. Smokescreen is a decent figure with a pretty simple transformation. I do wish the head was painted with red highlights instead of blue though. You know, because he doesn't have blue anywhere on his head in the show. All in all, he's a decent representation of himself and I like him. I hope Takara does the right thing with his head though. I'm holding out the they give us Ser-Ket as well instead of Ripclaw. I bought her to check out the mold but the deco and character mean nothing to me without being in any story or fiction (other than the one run-on sentence on the package). Shockwave is looking great.

Dagon wrote:Ok, but the picture shows Voyager and Deluxe Bulkhead, not Predaking and Smokescreen.

Personally, I prefer hot showers, but it does look that the vehicle modes of both of the figures pictured are quite near in size. Considering they're from two different size classes but look roughly the same from the side view at least, I'd say that's bad.

But, it may just be expansion due to the heat of my shower

Here's why they look the same size. Though Voyager Bulkhead is a big bulky dude, he does an excellent job at compacting his largeness into a neatly-fitted smaller altmode.

It helps the disguise work out for the better.

After a LONG wait, I have LazerBack on his way, and I will have all the Beast Hunter deluxe figures so far. Just disappointed with the lack of Voyager Shockwaves.

While I was working on the galleries for Rumble and Frenzy, it occurred to me that there was a simple foot swap mod that anyone can easily do. The mod requires simply swapping the left foot with the right foot. It makes both figures have another difference from Hasbro's TFP Rumble and gets rid of that nasty looking pointed feet that just doesn't go well with a G1 Rumble and Frenzy homage whereas the squared off look appears almost like this was a planned part swap at some point. The figures transform just fine after the swap.

Anyone else do this or am I about 6 months behind on this?

Do you have photos for this, Ryan?

Va'al wrote:Do you have photos for this, Ryan?

I will later tonight (in about 6 hours or less). I have their galleries completed but not uploaded to the server yet. I'll update this thread or merge it with the new topic for the galleries later.

Here's one of the photos ... don't have time to do add the galleries right now.



Compared to their G1 versions ...

Nice mod, now if I can just find Rumble

Huh o.o That looks good!

Seibertron.com is pleased to present galleries of Takara Tomy's Transformers Prime Arms Micron AM-30 Rumble and AM-31 Frenzy. Not just mere redecos, these two also feature the alternate head sculpt found on Hasbro's Transformers Prime Robots in Disguise Rumble's instruction sheet. If you want to further differentiate these guys from the Hasbro release try the foot swap described by Seibertron below. Each figure also comes with an Arms Micron Dago figure, the only real difference between the two being their stickers.

As always enjoy the full galleries by clicking on any of the images or links below.

Seibertron wrote:While I was working on the galleries for Rumble and Frenzy, it occurred to me that there was a simple foot swap mod that anyone can easily do. The mod requires simply swapping the left foot with the right foot. It makes both figures have another difference from Hasbro's TFP Rumble and gets rid of that nasty looking pointed feet that just doesn't go well with a G1 Rumble and Frenzy homage whereas the squared off look appears almost like this was a planned part swap at some point. The figures transform just fine after the swap.

Arms Micron Rumble




Arms Micron Dago (R)




Arms Micron Frenzy




Arms Micron Dago (F)

Wow, that foot swap really makes the toy look better. Great idea!

They look real nice.

Funny how Frenzy's bio notes how he gets enraged off by folks mistaking him for Rumble (as a nod to Hasbro's Rumble being blue).

Sabrblade wrote:They look real nice.

Funny how Frenzy's bio notes how he gets enraged off by folks mistaking him for Rumble (as a nod to Hasbro's Rumble being blue).

Frenzy is blue and Rumble is red in my book. The original toys were that way and the Japanese version of G1 (Super Robot Lifeform Transformers) had them correctly named as well. Everything else, including the US cartoon and anything that follows is just a continued screw-up.

US cartoon blue Rumble will always be Rumble to me even though I know his toy is reversed and that the cartoon is incorrect. It just works better that way since Rumble's got his piledrivers for "rumbling".

This could all be rectified by a simple fictional explanation that says that Rumble and Frenzy can switch colors to confuse the enemy or something silly.

Kudos to Takara for sticking to their guns on this release.

Frenzy-sorry, Rumble (they got the names wrong!) reminds me an awful lot of Gurren-Lagann.

Seibertron wrote:Frenzy is red and Rumble is blue in my book. The original toys were that way and the Japanese version of G1 (Super Robot Lifeform Transformers) had them correctly named as well. Everything else, including the US cartoon and anything that follows is just a continued screw-up.

My brain is trying to make sense of this, but it's difficult.

The first sentence looks okay, as it implies you prefer the cartoon's FIRRIB choice.

The second sentence, however, looks like your saying that the original toys and Japanese version also used FIRRIB like the cartoon, when they used RIRFIB instead.

The third sentence looks like you disapprove of the cartoon's use and any other use of FIRRIB, which contradicts the first sentence's liking FIRRIB.


I can tell that you are trying to make a very passionate and intelligent point here, but it's a bit lost in the confusion of this paragraph.

To me, Frenzy is silver and hyperactive and Rumble is blue and dimwitted.

I prefer the "super robot anime" styling Hasbro's... blue guy has to the more overtly G1-but-in-Prime's-aesthetic Takara's pair have, but I really like the color scheme of... the red one (I'm a sucker for red+black+gold).
I wonder if Hasbro will ever release a... the red one. A prototype briefly appeared on TFW (and evidently taken down because Hasbro reported it as stolen), but they don't seem to have plans for one in BH, and obviously PRiD is done. Hopefully one day it gets released.

Dammit. I was hoping I could get away with not ordering these, but once again Seibertron's galleries come to Takara's rescue. They look very awesome together, all stickered up.

And good eye on the foot mod. Makes a world of difference.

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Frenzy is red and Rumble is blue in my book. The original toys were that way and the Japanese version of G1 (Super Robot Lifeform Transformers) had them correctly named as well. Everything else, including the US cartoon and anything that follows is just a continued screw-up.

My brain is trying to make sense of this, but it's difficult.

The first sentence looks okay, as it implies you prefer the cartoon's FIRRIB choice.

The second sentence, however, looks like your saying that the original toys and Japanese version also used FIRRIB like the cartoon, when they used RIRFIB instead.

The third sentence looks like you disapprove of the cartoon's use and any other use of FIRRIB, which contradicts the first sentence's liking FIRRIB.


I can tell that you are trying to make a very passionate and intelligent point here, but it's a bit lost in the confusion of this paragraph.

Sorry ... wrote that right before bed. Meant to say "Frenzy is blue and Rumble is red in my book". I corrected my original post. Now everything I wrote should make sense.

Aw, hell, I'll get all three eventually. AM Rumble and Frenzy can join the rogues, while RiD Rumble can play with Dead End.

And before anyone asks, the ideal solution for the RiRFiB debate (silly as it is), is this: RiBFiB

Sodan-1 wrote:Dammit. I was hoping I could get away with not ordering these, but once again Seibertron's galleries come to Takara's rescue. They look very awesome together, all stickered up.

And good eye on the foot mod. Makes a world of difference.

Thanks!

I was surprised to see that the foot mod didn't seem to be well known or hadn't been discovered yet. Just gives them feet that look far more traditional and appropriate for these characters and let's them stand out from Hasbro's Rumble.

Seibertron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:They look real nice.

Funny how Frenzy's bio notes how he gets enraged off by folks mistaking him for Rumble (as a nod to Hasbro's Rumble being blue).

Frenzy is blue and Rumble is red in my book. The original toys were that way and the Japanese version of G1 (Super Robot Lifeform Transformers) had them correctly named as well. Everything else, including the US cartoon and anything that follows is just a continued screw-up.

US cartoon blue Rumble will always be Rumble to me even though I know his toy is reversed and that the cartoon is incorrect. It just works better that way since Rumble's got his piledrivers for "rumbling".

This could all be rectified by a simple fictional explanation that says that Rumble and Frenzy can switch colors to confuse the enemy or something silly.

Kudos to Takara for sticking to their guns on this release.

I only have the Hasbro one, but despite the name on the box I constantly call it Frenzy. It's like ingrained in my brain that FIB.

Even before I read all the comments, I knew this article would be yet another platform for the FIRRIB/FIBRIR deabte.

tfcrafter wrote:Even before I read all the comments, I knew this article would be yet another platform for the FIRRIB/FIBRIR deabte.

It's fun reading everyone's interpretations. Rumble is red, Frenzy is blue is my thing, but it's interesting to read other explanations for the opposite train of thought.

Well, my reason isn't particularly compelling, but RiRFiB largely because the acronym works better that way.

Seibertron wrote:

tfcrafter wrote:Even before I read all the comments, I knew this article would be yet another platform for the FIRRIB/FIBRIR deabte.

It's fun reading everyone's interpretations. Rumble is red, Frenzy is blue is my thing, but it's interesting to read other explanations for the opposite train of thought.

I think the fact that Takara just released these guys as Masterpiece figures and labeled them as Rumble being red and Frenzy being blue should end the debate. These are supposed to be the definitive G1 interpretations of these guys after all.