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News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:22 am

Site sponsor TFSource has let us know that they have some updated product images from Takara, showing the Japanese releases of the Generations figures TG-24 Optimus Prime and Bumblebee, TG-25 Orion Pax and Megatron, TG-26 Bumblebee Goldbug and TG-27 Trailcutter and Hoist! Check out the images below, which are linked to the product pages.

Transformers Generations Japan - TG24 Fall of Cybertron - Optimus Prime & Bumblebee Set

Transformers Generations Japan - TG25 Fall of Cybertron - Orion Pax & Megatron Set

Transformers Generations Japan - TG26 Fall of Cybertron - Bumblebee Gold Bug

Transformers Generations Japan - TG27 Fall of Cybertron - Trailcutter & Hoist Set

by **Henry921** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:29 am

What's with Takara and all these two packs? :???:

Oh, well.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:09 am

The first TT release of IDW Bumblebee already has a Goldbug-colored head? Color me surprised.

Henry921 wrote:What's with Takara and all these two packs?

Oh, well.

Easier selling. Note that the Bumblebee is the only single

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:35 am

shinny!

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:41 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The first TT release of IDW Bumblebee already has a Goldbug-colored head? Color me surprised.

Yeah, especially given the Goldbug remold coming out later. :-?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:52 am

Va'al wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The first TT release of IDW Bumblebee already has a Goldbug-colored head? Color me surprised.

Yeah, especially given the Goldbug remold coming out later.

That's the one I'll be spending money on. Goldbug never looked so good

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:02 am

hmmmm... wondering if the Orion Pax and Megatron two pack is different enough to keep my preorder. Megatron is looking more gray then shinny.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:26 am

Takara nailed Trailbreaker and Hoist. Spot on!

Could care less about the other two-packs. I'm indifferent whether I get the Legends anyway, and I prefer Orion Pax and Megatron's Hasbro releases since they're within my budget.

News Credits: 457 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:27 am

TFSource's listing for TG-25 is slightly mislabeled. It should say "Orion Pax & Megatronus". :-B

mooncake623 wrote:hmmmm... wondering if the Orion Pax and Megatron two pack is different enough to keep my preorder. Megatron is looking more gray then shinny.

Both are shinier and feature more comic-accurate paint apps... BUT, the Megatron(us) toy has had all of its comic-accurate translucent purple plastic swapped out and replaced with non-accurate translucent red plastic. Orion Pax also has a blue windshield instead of clear.

As for Megs look more gray here, it's due to the lighting.

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:22 am

Chara-Net has posted clearer official images of Takara Tomy's upcoming Transformers Generations TG-26 Bumblebee and TG-17 Hoist and Trailcutter. We've mirrored the images below. Although TG-26 comes with a blue head, it is not the remolded version that was revealed at BotCon for Hasbro's upcoming Generations Goldfire.

by **Rated X** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:13 am

Is there a real difference ? Can somebody post pics of both Takara and Hasbro Hoist side by side ?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:25 am

Here's a good question for you sticklers to fiction: what are the chances of Goldfire becoming a character separate from Bumblebee, since we're dealing with IDW?

News Credits: 457 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:37 am

Rated X wrote:Is there a real difference ? Can somebody post pics of both Takara and Hasbro Hoist side by side ?

TakaraTomy TG-26 Bumblebee Goldbug:

Hasbro Goldfire:

Hasbro Bumblebee:

by **Wh33l Jck** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:18 am

So where is the preorder for Hasbro Hoist?

Why are we getting preorders and pics for the Takara one first, even if it won't be released until later????

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:51 am

I'm starting to think this BB might be my favorite BB of all time.* Based on what I've seen so far, I like it better than movie-verse BB, Animated BB, Prime BB, WFC BB, Generations Legend BB and even Classics BB.

* I can't really compare it to G1 BB; it's not really fair to either one.

News Credits: 4 · by **MasterSoundBlaster** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:48 pm

I'm really liking the Takara version of Bumblebee. Although I wish they used a different head sculpt to pull off that Goldbug vibe, he looks weird without the faceplate and visor.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Here's a good question for you sticklers to fiction: what are the chances of Goldfire becoming a character separate from Bumblebee, since we're dealing with IDW?

I actually like that idea, seeing how we had Galvatron being a seperate character from Megatron.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:54 pm

Only one I don't like here is Goldbug. Not Goldbug-y enough. >:oP

But the rest of them... damn, wish I had these suckers. I'd love to get my mitts on Hoist and Trailbreaker especially, but with a Deluxe at almost $40, I just can't bring myself to do that to my wallet.

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:32 pm

Woah, OK. I'm going to say Takara's Hoist is a definite improvement with it's more vibrant colours. Trailcutter as well, although sinner that I am, I prefer Hasbro's blue visor.

Goldbee is a definite pass. I'm only interested in that mold as Bumblebee, minus all the gold. But Hasbro's version really is quite pale, cheap looking. I may end up skipping this mold entirely. No big loss.

by **Rated X** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:46 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:Is there a real difference ? Can somebody post pics of both Takara and Hasbro Hoist side by side ?
TakaraTomy TG-26 Bumblebee Goldbug:

Hasbro Goldfire:

Hasbro Bumblebee:

Thanks. But it was actually comparison shots of the 2 Hoists that I wanted to see.

News Credits: 457 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:03 pm

Rated X wrote:Thanks. But it was actually comparison shots of the 2 Hoists that I wanted to see.

Ah, sorry. Here you go.

Takara TG-17 Hoist

Hasbro Hoist:

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:43 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:Thanks. But it was actually comparison shots of the 2 Hoists that I wanted to see.
Ah, sorry. Here you go.

Takara TG-17 Hoist

Hasbro Hoist:

I usually prefer Takara's paint jobs but not this time for Hoist. The Yellow and green seem more G1 accurate on Hasbro. Also Hasbro's has the yellow visor.

News Credits: 457 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:06 pm

Stormrider wrote:I usually prefer Takara's paint jobs but not this time for Hoist. The Yellow and green seem more G1 accurate on Hasbro. Also Hasbro's has the yellow visor.

Hope you like Hasbro Trailcutter better too since the Takara one comes with the Takara Hoist.

by **Rated X** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:10 pm

Thanks. For once it looks like Hasbro has the colors that are more G1 cartoon accurate, which I prefer over G1 toy accuracy. However, both got the head the wrong color. Sure takara got the blue eyes right, but what good is getting the eyes right if the head is supposed to be black ? Since this is going to be a mass release, I think Beezleboss should jump on an add on set for Hoist with a black head and arm cannon.

News Credits: 457 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:31 pm

Rated X wrote:Thanks. For once it looks like Hasbro has the colors that are more G1 cartoon accurate, which I prefer over G1 toy accuracy. However, both got the head the wrong color. Sure takara got the blue eyes right, but what good is getting the eyes right if the head is supposed to be black ? Since this is going to be a mass release, I think Beezleboss should jump on an add on set for Hoist with a black head and arm cannon.

The head is not supposed to be black. Both Hasbro and Takara were going for IDW comic-accuracy, not cartoon-accuracy.

As has been stated time and again, all of the Thrilling 30 toys are IDW comic toys.

by **Rated X** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:00 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:Thanks. For once it looks like Hasbro has the colors that are more G1 cartoon accurate, which I prefer over G1 toy accuracy. However, both got the head the wrong color. Sure takara got the blue eyes right, but what good is getting the eyes right if the head is supposed to be black ? Since this is going to be a mass release, I think Beezleboss should jump on an add on set for Hoist with a black head and arm cannon.
The head is not supposed to be black. Both Hasbro and Takara were going for IDW comic-accuracy, not cartoon-accuracy.

As has been stated time and again, all of the Thrilling 30 toys are IDW comic toys.

Well Im no comic guy. I commend Hasbro for going with the G1 cartoon colors though. A black head would be an easy fix for those who want a something more G1. If an upgrade kit isnt made ill just buy an extra Hoist and dye the head black. Then Ill dye the green body dark blue and mix parts with trailcutter to make Diaclone Trailbreaker.