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News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:35 pm

welcometothedarksyde wrote:Hey how about top 5 best human characters

Maybe a top 5 human characters in TF history. Fowler would be number 1 no question, but who would the other 4 be? I felt the best human characters in the film trilogy was Patrick Dempsey, and Kelsey Grammar for being such fun 80s villains, don't know if that would p!ss you all off. Who else should be there? Daniel? Spark Plug? Jack's mom? The mark hammil character in Rescue Bots? Let me know and we can craft that list together.

And while Knockout is one of the most fun characters there, I felt the other 5 brought just a tad more to the show (knock out didnt do anything important in relation to the plot or story). I also really liked those interpretations of the characters and how it was a celebration and general update of a G1 I never lived through. But Knockout was the one I would have included if I had a sixth slot for sure, hence the honourable mention. Who would he have replaced on the list?

by **frogbat** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:41 pm

knock out definitely... he started as a shallow decepticon version of tracks and then evolved...

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:44 pm

No love for Airachnid? She's easily one of the most terrifying villains Transformers has ever had.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:51 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:No love for Airachnid? She's easily one of the most terrifying villains Transformers has ever had.

Terrifying indeed. She may top the list of the scariest transformers of all time. But her main part in the show was as an enemy to Arcee. She never really did anything important except kill people, creep the rest out and attempt to steal everything

by **Hiboman** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:53 pm

I'm disappointed that Bulkhead didn't show up on the list. He was my favorite.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:57 pm

Hiboman wrote:I'm disappointed that Bulkhead didn't show up on the list. He was my favorite.

That's why we have the comments section. Who else would have been in your top 5 with Bulkhead at the lead?

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:05 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Hiboman wrote:I'm disappointed that Bulkhead didn't show up on the list. He was my favorite.

That's why we have the comments section. Who else would have been in your top 5 with Bulkhead at the lead?

I personally would've ranked them as follows:
1) Soundwave
2) Starscream
3) Dreadwing
4) Bulkhead
5) Knockout

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:30 pm

william-james88 wrote: I mean Cliffjumper, really? That's like saying Tigerhawk is one of the best Beast Wars characters.

Not a huge fan of the show, but Knockout was certainly one of the best (if not most entertaining) characters. I liked Smokescreen too.

But.......TIGERHAWK RULES!!!!!!!!!

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:31 pm

Cobotron wrote:
But.......TIGERHAWK RULES!!!!!!!!!

http://beastwars25.weebly.com/

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:36 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
But.......TIGERHAWK RULES!!!!!!!!!

http://beastwars25.weebly.com/

SO!

List? I don't need no stinking list!

( :-P

)

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:02 pm

Cobotron wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
But.......TIGERHAWK RULES!!!!!!!!!

http://beastwars25.weebly.com/

SO! List? I don't need no stinking list!

( )

But who was #2 and #1? it only showed till #3...

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:31 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
But.......TIGERHAWK RULES!!!!!!!!!

http://beastwars25.weebly.com/

SO! List? I don't need no stinking list!

( )

But who was #2 and #1? it only showed till #3...

I am assuming Megatron and Dinobot. Anyways, screw that list, the seibertron team is getting ready for the 20th anniversary next year with it's own top beast wars list. It will be the list to end all lists!

By the way, it really is funny how we all agree that Optimus would never be near a top Prime characters list. He isn't a terrible character but just doesnt add anything interesting or leave any sort of meaningful impact. It makes me wonder, if we look at all the main Prime characters (including the humans), would he be dead last?

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:40 pm

I've said it before, but it takes a lot of solid script writing to keep

from being dumb cliches of righteousness, and it's fairly easy to see that smokescreen and ratchet were the only ones to really rise above (wheeljack was still just a generic douche-ex-teammate-that-changed cliche)

Just look at BW and how incredible the entire main cast was (precluding terrorsaur - who was still a solid character - and scorponok, airazor); this is definitely the gold standard of comparisons.

News Credits: 7 · by **Zeedust** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:59 pm

No Predaking? Color me disappointed.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:36 pm

welcometothedarksyde wrote:Hey how about top 5 best human characters

Then people would complain about said list being nothing but Rescue Bots humans.

by **Shadowstream** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:03 pm

A top 5 human character list should look like this:

#5 name not important
#4 error
#3 data not found
#2 N/A
#1 no f*cks given

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:13 pm

william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
But.......TIGERHAWK RULES!!!!!!!!!

http://beastwars25.weebly.com/

SO! List? I don't need no stinking list!

( )

But who was #2 and #1? it only showed till #3...

I am assuming Megatron and Dinobot. Anyways, screw that list, the seibertron team is getting ready for the 20th anniversary next year with it's own top beast wars list. It will be the list to end all lists!

By the way, it really is funny how we all agree that Optimus would never be near a top Prime characters list. He isn't a terrible character but just doesnt add anything interesting or leave any sort of meaningful impact. It makes me wonder, if we look at all the main Prime characters (including the humans), would he be dead last?

I honestly do not know. It would a tough race

Kinda surprised Shockwave has yet to make it into the conversation....

News Credits: 5 · by **welcometothedarksyde** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:58 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
welcometothedarksyde wrote:Hey how about top 5 best human characters
Then people would complain about said list being nothing but Rescue Bots humans.

There's got to be some outside of the box answers. For example I think Sari Sumdac deserves a mention, her character development was well done IMO. Yeah, yeah, I know she technically doesn't count. However she represented the "human character" in that show. Dr Arkeville for maybe being the most important human in the original G1 cartoon. Kelly from RID was good for a laugh.

Yeah okay, the pickings are pretty slim :lol:

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:10 pm

welcometothedarksyde wrote:
Yeah okay, the pickings are pretty slim

What about the plethora of human chatacters from the movies? :twisted:

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:17 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
But.......TIGERHAWK RULES!!!!!!!!!

http://beastwars25.weebly.com/

SO! List? I don't need no stinking list!

( )

But who was #2 and #1? it only showed till #3...

I am assuming Megatron and Dinobot. Anyways, screw that list, the seibertron team is getting ready for the 20th anniversary next year with it's own top beast wars list. It will be the list to end all lists!

By the way, it really is funny how we all agree that Optimus would never be near a top Prime characters list. He isn't a terrible character but just doesnt add anything interesting or leave any sort of meaningful impact. It makes me wonder, if we look at all the main Prime characters (including the humans), would he be dead last?

I honestly do not know. It would a tough race

Kinda surprised Shockwave has yet to make it into the conversation....

Why? He didn't have a character, sure he was there, but he didn't have character (which is what plagued most of the cast, and is what this list is focusing on); same goes for predaking. They had bare bones character at best, no development, and frankly, no reason for me as a viewer to get invested in them.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:26 pm

william-james88 wrote:
welcometothedarksyde wrote:
Yeah okay, the pickings are pretty slim

What about the plethora of human chatacters from the movies?

Wait! They had character? I thought they just either stammered a lot or died or did nothing >:oP

(god those movies were so poorly written :SICK:

)

News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:52 pm

Top 5 humans? Hmmm...

Capt. Fanzone
Agent Fowler
Dr. Morocco
Meltdown
um...... I dunno about a fifth. Should be enough to start a conversation, at least.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:07 pm

Noideaforaname wrote:Top 5 humans? Hmmm...

Capt. Fanzone
Agent Fowler
Dr. Morocco
Meltdown
um...... I dunno about a fifth. Should be enough to start a conversation, at least.

In all honesty, Morocco and members of the Burns family would probably dominate the list.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:03 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
welcometothedarksyde wrote:
Yeah okay, the pickings are pretty slim

What about the plethora of human chatacters from the movies?

Wait! They had character? I thought they just either stammered a lot or died or did nothing

(god those movies were so poorly written )

But I find the movies did have good characters but they werent in the foreground. In all fairness, Patrick Dempsey is the most complex character in DOTM (I know, I know). He is a man stuck in a deal his father made with the decepticons and truly believes that this is the only way for the human race to survive. I feel of all the actors associated with this franchise, he and Kelsey Grammar come out unscathed.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:08 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
welcometothedarksyde wrote:
Yeah okay, the pickings are pretty slim

What about the plethora of human chatacters from the movies?

Wait! They had character? I thought they just either stammered a lot or died or did nothing

(god those movies were so poorly written )

But I find the movies did have good characters but they werent in the foreground. In all fairness, Patrick Dempsey is the most complex character in DOTM (I know, I know). He is a man stuck in a deal his father made with the decepticons and truly believes that this is the only way for the human race to survive. I feel of all the actors associated with this franchise, he and Kelsey Grammar come out unscathed.

Yeah, he was actually a fairly well written character. And I did end up finding myself conflicted as to whether I should sympathize for him, so job well done on that part.