The Energon Pub

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:28 pm

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Wasn't one of the failed club concepts that got my piss boiling fem-sidways from FE arcee with a new head, or was that fem cykill?

"Femme Fatale Cy-Kill"

News Credits: 119 · by **megatronus** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:40 pm

ScottyP wrote:
megatronus wrote:As long as Armada molds aren't used, I could be onboard for that!

I thought we could be friends

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:46 pm

On a related note, I've created a new thread for discussing BotCon/TCC fiction, old and new, if anyone's interested if discussing things like the recent developments in Tornado's Facebook log, or next year's magazine story "Another Light", or any of the older stuff.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:44 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Rumors/speculations are going around that it might be a new Unicron Trilogy-themed set, like a redux of Armada.

Bring it on! Molds and all!

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:19 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Rumors/speculations are going around that it might be a new Unicron Trilogy-themed set, like a redux of Armada.
Bring it on! Molds and all!

Then it's not a redux. That defeats the point of making new toys of older characters.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:56 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Rumors/speculations are going around that it might be a new Unicron Trilogy-themed set, like a redux of Armada.
Bring it on! Molds and all!
Then it's not a redux. That defeats the point of making new toys of older characters.

And...?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:01 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Rumors/speculations are going around that it might be a new Unicron Trilogy-themed set, like a redux of Armada.
Bring it on! Molds and all!
Then it's not a redux. That defeats the point of making new toys of older characters.
And...?

A redux with new toys of older characters is my post was talking about.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:47 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Rumors/speculations are going around that it might be a new Unicron Trilogy-themed set, like a redux of Armada.
Bring it on! Molds and all!
Then it's not a redux. That defeats the point of making new toys of older characters.
And...?
A redux with new toys of older characters is my post was talking about.

OK. I misunderstood. No redux for me, I'd rather have new characters with Armada molds. Armada molds were very good. Unfortunately, they're probably too old now to be reused. :-(

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:59 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:OK. I misunderstood. No redux for me, I'd rather have new characters with Armada molds. Armada molds were very good. Unfortunately, they're probably too old now to be reused.

Considering that the Club has never ever used an Armada mold before (which isn't surprising since very few of them have any decent amount of articulation), I don't see them using them anytime soon.

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:12 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:OK. I misunderstood. No redux for me, I'd rather have new characters with Armada molds. Armada molds were very good. Unfortunately, they're probably too old now to be reused.
Considering that the Club has never ever used an Armada mold before (which isn't surprising since very few of them have any decent amount of articulation), I don't see them using them anytime soon.

What about armada wheeljack?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:14 pm

SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:OK. I misunderstood. No redux for me, I'd rather have new characters with Armada molds. Armada molds were very good. Unfortunately, they're probably too old now to be reused.
Considering that the Club has never ever used an Armada mold before (which isn't surprising since very few of them have any decent amount of articulation), I don't see them using them anytime soon.

What about armada wheeljack?

Forgot about that one. Alright, aside from Wheeljack, then.

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:46 pm

They've never done a full Car Robots/ RID set either. I wonder if thats possible.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:56 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:OK. I misunderstood. No redux for me, I'd rather have new characters with Armada molds. Armada molds were very good. Unfortunately, they're probably too old now to be reused.
Considering that the Club has never ever used an Armada mold before (which isn't surprising since very few of them have any decent amount of articulation), I don't see them using them anytime soon.

I know. That makes me kinda sad. Toy-wise, Armada is in my top 3, due to the colors and molds used. I'm not sure how well they did for Hasbro on the toy shelves, but I suspect that's 1 reason they didn't think the molds would be viable. Like you said, not much articulation, so they wouldn't be much fun for kids. But I like bricks, having grown up on G1, and I like Armada toys.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:03 am

As far as anniversaries go, next year is the...

30th anniversary of the second year of G1 (not much to celebrate there)
25th anniversary of Zone and Action Masters (I don't see either being full box set material)
20th anniversary of the final year of G2 (already celebrated G2 in 2010)
15th anniversary of Beast Machines and Car Robots (the latter's possible)
10th anniversary of Cybertron (also possible)

News Credits: 119 · by **megatronus** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:09 am

OK, enough of the Armada speculation

What do folks think a Beast Wars Uprising Set would look like? A bit random, but I'd love to see Silverbolt from BH Grimwing/Darksteel (since he didn't get win the poll that gave us Go Shooter) and BW Megatron from FOC Grimlock...

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:16 am

megatronus wrote:What do folks think a Beast Wars Uprising Set would look like? A bit random, but I'd love to see Silverbolt from BH Grimwing/Darksteel (since he didn't get win the poll that gave us Go Shooter) and BW Megatron from FOC Grimlock...

Silverbolt's dead, unfortunately. And if he got a toy, it'd probably be based on the Beast Machines version.

However, there's plenty of existent Uprising dudes who could get toys: Rattrap, Botanica, Dynobot, Torca, Geckobot, Jawbreaker, Cryotek, Windrazor, and Packrat (and Nitrostreak, but I can't see his toy being that exciting).

Though, I'd more expect an Uprising theme to come in 2016 for the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:27 am

Sabrblade wrote:
15th anniversary of Beast Machines and Car Robots (the latter's possible)
10th anniversary of Cybertron (also possible)

Those 2 fit the categories previously announced, right? I hope it'll be 1 of those.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:30 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
15th anniversary of Beast Machines and Car Robots (the latter's possible)
10th anniversary of Cybertron (also possible)

Those 2 fit the categories previously announced, right? I hope it'll be 1 of those.

The Tweets told which us themes it wouldn't be (meaning none of the ones that have been done before), so since they've yet to do a RiD-themed or UT-themed BotCon, both are possible, yes.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:30 am

megatronus wrote:BW Megatron from FOC Grimlock...

Wasn't there a prototype of that shown before? The Grimlock body with the Megatron face? I'm certain I've seen it.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:36 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
megatronus wrote:BW Megatron from FOC Grimlock...
Wasn't there a prototype of that shown before? The Grimlock body with the Megatron face? I'm certain I've seen it.

Yeah, in eBay auctions. But it hasn't been released, though.

On a related note, another issue with doing Silverbold from Grimwing/Darksteel, as well as doing Megatron from Grimlock, is that one of the points of Uprising is that it's a "non-beast" version of the Beast Era (rather than "pre-beast" version like Dawn of Future's Past was). These are versions of the characters who neither have nor will get beast modes (save for Blackarachnia and Nightscream, who went to Axiom Nexus in the TransTech world and got theirs there) since there's no one going to Earth to take part in any Beast Wars this time around. So making Silverbolt into an ursagryph or Megatron into another T-Rex would go against that.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:49 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:OK. I misunderstood. No redux for me, I'd rather have new characters with Armada molds. Armada molds were very good. Unfortunately, they're probably too old now to be reused.
Considering that the Club has never ever used an Armada mold before (which isn't surprising since very few of them have any decent amount of articulation), I don't see them using them anytime soon.

What about armada wheeljack?
Forgot about that one. Alright, aside from Wheeljack, then.

Not exactly a fair analysis since the Blurr and Hoist molds were physically retooled for their Cybertron and subsequent Botcon releases.

Also, "the Club" used Armada Jetfire for Astrotrain.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:57 pm

I stand corrected. Fun Pub's used four Armada molds (five if you count SG Sideswipe's Mini-Con separately), two of which were the remolded Cybertron versions.

Still though, considering how few they've used in all these years, I can't see them returning to much more of those molds anytime soon.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:09 pm

Sabrblade wrote:I stand corrected. Fun Pub's used four Armada molds (five if you could SG Sideswipe's Mini-Con separately), two of which were the remolded Cybertron versions.

Still though, considering how few they've used in all these years, I can't see them returning to much more of those molds anytime soon.

If anything, I'd wanna finally see that canceled Smokescreen repaint of Hot Shot. For a "canceled toy" theme, which we've got plenty of :lol:

They've done it before with Astrotrain (Universe Spacewarp), Piranacon (Energon Piranhaking), SG Sideswipe (Universe Drench), and to a lesser extent Toxitron, why stop now?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:36 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I stand corrected. Fun Pub's used four Armada molds (five if you could SG Sideswipe's Mini-Con separately), two of which were the remolded Cybertron versions.

Still though, considering how few they've used in all these years, I can't see them returning to much more of those molds anytime soon.

If anything, I'd wanna finally see that canceled Smokescreen repaint of Hot Shot. For a "canceled toy" theme, which we've got plenty of They've done it before with Astrotrain (Universe Spacewarp), Piranacon (Energon Piranhaking), SG Sideswipe (Universe Drench), and to a lesser extent Toxitron, why stop now?

Make it from Universe Hot Shot and we might have something here. The original Armada Hot Shot is such a disappointing mold.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:06 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I stand corrected. Fun Pub's used four Armada molds (five if you could SG Sideswipe's Mini-Con separately), two of which were the remolded Cybertron versions.

Still though, considering how few they've used in all these years, I can't see them returning to much more of those molds anytime soon.

If anything, I'd wanna finally see that canceled Smokescreen repaint of Hot Shot. For a "canceled toy" theme, which we've got plenty of They've done it before with Astrotrain (Universe Spacewarp), Piranacon (Energon Piranhaking), SG Sideswipe (Universe Drench), and to a lesser extent Toxitron, why stop now?
Make it from Universe Hot Shot and we might have something here. The original Armada Hot Shot is such a disappointing mold.

No no no no, Universe Hot Shot just won't do! Use the retooled/original Henkei mold instead, like with Dion. :twisted: