The Energon Pub

Damolisher wrote:Yeah, being a pacifist doesn't make you a wuss. First Aid's function IS that of a medic. Hell, he probably didn't want to wind up like the LAST medic who tried to stand up for himself against the Decepticons. *Turns sharply and glares at Ratchet's body.*

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Damolisher wrote:Yeah, being a pacifist doesn't make you a wuss. First Aid's function IS that of a medic. Hell, he probably didn't want to wind up like the LAST medic who tried to stand up for himself against the Decepticons. *Turns sharply and glares at Ratchet's body.*

you've just proven my point of why he is a wuss! ratchet might have died, but at least he had the cast iron manifold to try!

Poor Frist-Aid. but whatever i'm done arguing.

He didn't fight because he didn't believe in fighting. First Aid helps SAVE lives. In a way, if he killed anyone, he would've been a hypocrit, wouldn't he? He's meant to save lives, not take 'em. And as a medic, he's (Allegedly) meant to be objective when saving lives.

ThunderThruster wrote:G1 First Aid : but i dont believe in fighting

is what i posted on page 1 Damolisher, i KNOW he doesnt believe in fighting, I quoted him!

I can't name a single TF that's the wimpiest, so I'll list a few Autobots and Decepticons that I think are strong contenders for this embarassing designation.

AUTOBOTS

1) Bumblebee. He's competent in the 2007 movie as a soldier, but a complete lil bitch lol in the cartoon and comic. His only redeeming features are that he gets along with humans and has above average courage. Useless in a fight, though.
2) Perceptor. Technically I guess he had decent combat skills but when he was getting raped by Soundwave's minions in the movie it didn't vouch well for these supposed talents.
3) Rachet (comic version). He was like a cranky version of Bumblebee and made Megatron laugh when he shot at him.
4) First Aid. I still don't know what use he had. Rachet was a superior "doctor" and almost every other Autobot was a better warrior.
5) Cliffjumper. Although he was marginally stronger than Bumblebee, he was stupid and reckless. Bad combination.
6) Jazz (movie). I don't think Jazz did anything of note in the battle at the end. He did manage to grab onto Devastator but got thrown into a building and then shot and ripped in half by Megatron. Not the kind of things that he wanted to be remembered by I'm sure.
7) Wheelie. Arguably one of the most childish characters in the series, was weak and his main weapon was a SLINGSHOT. Yeah.
8 ) Silverbolt. The leader of the Aerialbots (JETS) was afraid of heights. Did I mention he was a JET in charge of a bunch of other JETS but was afraid of heights?
9) Ultra Fagnus... I mean Magnus. Physically he was supposed to be one of the more powerful Autobots but I just remember him getting b*tch slapped by Galvatron and company, which in turn almost cost the Autobots the war and the fight against Unicron.

DECEPTICONS.

1) Laserbeak. Had some sort of piss poor lasers mounted but physically was useless. The only purpose he served was to go scout out things that Soundwave was to lazy to get involved with.
2) Ravage. Somehow he scanned a cat of some sort and became a metallic version of one. Do you ever remember any Autobot being scared of Ravage? Did Ravage ever win a fight? I think his main job was to fetch newspapers for Megatron or chasing Laserbeak.
3) Frenzy (2007 movie version). Frenzy was sly and useful when it came to hacking into computer systems, but he was a pansy when it came to fighting. He had some little ratatattat guns and some flying disks but what affect would those have on a full-sized Autobot?
4) Bombshell. I guess he could inject a cerebro shell into another living being and control them, but he was fat and slow and nobody liked him. Megatron tolerated him just because he liked his useful skill.
5) Sharkticons. As a group they were pretty rough, but one-on-one they were pretty sad. All they had was teeth, but no guns and they were slow. Even Wheelie would have a chance.
6) Cheetor. I hated Beast Wars because they sucked and Cheetor was probably the gay mate for Ravage.

The following get honorable mention for sucking...

AUTOBOTS -

1) Swoop. He was ugly, had little talent and was basically Grimlocks b*tch boy. He couldn't even fly fast. He did, however, have cool fake metal wings.
2) Cosmos. Good Earth disguise, a UFO. I have no clue what he supposedly did, but I believe he was a navigator of some sort. I guess he could navigate while he was getting stomped on by Soundwave and Shockwave.
3) Powerglide. A glider, ooooooooh. He was weak, much slower than the Decepticon jets and the Aerialbots, had sorry machine guns as his main offensive weapons, and was ungainly.
4) Bluestreak. He had a ton of firepower, but was a complete coward and would sooner pee his pants and go hide behind a building than protect humans or help his fellow Autobots.
5) Arcee. The damsel in distress was weaker than most and had no serious weapons. I guess she was supposed to be the "morale booster" for the Autobots?
6) Sky Lynx. All he did was fly around and run his mouth. The bottom half (who I guess is "Lynx" lol) ran around with no real purpose while the top ("Sky") part gloated and complained.

DECEPTICONS -

1) Vortex. Lost his job to Blackout because he sucked. I think.
2) Scorponok (2007 movie version). His best lasers did nothing but put little dents in sandstone walls and his rockets seemed more like fireworks than anything dangerous. His tail was cool, but all it was really was a glorified sword. Also was stupid to leave a piece of his body behind.
3) Buzzsaw. Laserbeak's mate I think. I'm not sure which was is the male, but Buzzsaw had no purpose to anything. He probably just stayed in storage or something.

Iknow i have said this already but it bears repeating Daniel. and as annoying as he in G1 he's even worse in headmasters!

bigbadbarron wrote:Starscream was nowhere to be seen when megatron was being killed in the movie

Well, SS was fighting those jets...
And Barricade wasnt around when Megatron was killed toom in case you havent noticed.

G1 Megatron: Hold me, pull my trigger, hold me, pull my trigger...

G1 Starscream: I want a divorce!

Sorry even though I absolutly hate Armada I still like Armada Starscream better than G1. Energon and Cybertron aren't that bad and both thoughs Starscreams are even better than G1.

G1 Starscream only TALKED about taking over as leader of the Decepticons and the few times he actully tried to face Megatron looked more like a married couple haveing a fight. Especially considering the whole Megatron being a gun in Starscreams hands thing.

bigbadbarron wrote:Starscream from the original series had attendancy to run when the odds were 60/40

Starscream was nowhere to be seen when megatron was being killed in the movie

So true, Barron. Screamer was so spineless.

Deceptiwho? wrote:Wheelie for chrissakes.. cant believe im the first to say it

Wheelie shot Galvatron in the face.

In the FACE people...

I hardly think that's wussie.

Counterpunch wrote:

Deceptiwho? wrote:Wheelie for chrissakes.. cant believe im the first to say it

Wheelie shot Galvatron in the face.

In the FACE people...

I hardly think that's wussie.

I don't think a slingshot is going to stop the harbringer of death heh...

WHEELIE - Take THAT Megatron! (fires puny fire rock from slingshot)

MEGATRON - Come here boy so I can rip your arms off and beat you with the wet end!

G1 Starscream: "Ow, my foot!" Gets my vote. He wasn't too bright, either, despite having been a scientist on Cybertron?

roblinb wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Deceptiwho? wrote:Wheelie for chrissakes.. cant believe im the first to say it

Wheelie shot Galvatron in the face.

In the FACE people...

I hardly think that's wussie.

I don't think a slingshot is going to stop the harbringer of death heh...

WHEELIE - Take THAT Megatron! (fires puny fire rock from slingshot)

MEGATRON - Come here boy so I can rip your arms off and beat you with the wet end!

All the more reason he isn't a wuss.

When was the last time you threw a rock in the eye of the harbringer of death?

Plus, Wheelie leapt onto one of the Predacons (Rampage?) and began punching him repeatedly, as well as tackling Trypticon on a bridge.

Cerberos. Whiney little baby.

Wow, I really didn't know that not wanting to fight in a war made you a wuss. I mean, far out, I better ring my doctor and tell him he's a wuss for not helping me beat up these kids I had trouble with once. Damn quacks.

Damolisher wrote:Wow, I really didn't know that not wanting to fight in a war made you a wuss. I mean, far out, I better ring my doctor and tell him he's a wuss for not helping me beat up these kids I had trouble with once. Damn quacks.

I’m forced to agree, pacifism is different from cowardice.
And no, Wheelie is not a wuse, just terminally annoying.

Yeah, but Cerebros on the other hand IS a wussy. First Aid comes back, eventually, and does so on his own free will after realising he's needed. Cerebros, on the other hand, has to be forced to get off his arse and stop being an emo. Hell, Cerebros is whny from the first instance we meet him. He won't even fight to save anyone else. At least First Aid eventually took up arms in the Rebirth.

Whiner-tron wrote:

Damolisher wrote:Wow, I really didn't know that not wanting to fight in a war made you a wuss. I mean, far out, I better ring my doctor and tell him he's a wuss for not helping me beat up these kids I had trouble with once. Damn quacks.

I’m forced to agree, pacifism is different from cowardice.
And no, Wheelie is not a wuse, just terminally annoying.

Actually Wheelie is physically weak so technically he is a wuss

Although he has courage, he's not gonna beat many Decepticons in a knock down drag em out brawl.

roblinb wrote:

Whiner-tron wrote:

Damolisher wrote:Wow, I really didn't know that not wanting to fight in a war made you a wuss. I mean, far out, I better ring my doctor and tell him he's a wuss for not helping me beat up these kids I had trouble with once. Damn quacks.

I’m forced to agree, pacifism is different from cowardice.
And no, Wheelie is not a wuse, just terminally annoying.

Actually Wheelie is physically weak so technically he is a wuss

Although he has courage, he's not gonna beat many Decepticons in a knock down drag em out brawl.

Wheelie's weak... so that makes him a wuss... Okay then...

Rumble and Frenzy are weak compared to most of the other Transformers. Are they wimps? Nooooooo.

And First-Aid ain't no wuss. What kind of wuss jumps into Metroplex to insert his transforming cog while the big guy's fighting Trypticon? How's that wussy?

The title of biggest wuss would have to go to a Decepticon. Which Decepticon has run away the most? I'd say it's a close race between Megatron and Starscream.

Scourge and the Sweeps. Bunch a' goddamn pansies.

G1 Ratbat...he bossed all the other cons around and really thought he was the dogs bollocks but a single shot from scorponoks sting and he actually fell to bits...

Every con under Ratbat's command most of all soundwave for taking orders from a pisspoor cassette that doesnt even have a hand to fire a gun...sure he had fangs to drain your fuel but a well placed shot would screw him royally as scorponok proved.

Long haul - all he did was shovel **** around and accepted that was his place in the grand scheme of things...why bother granting him life when an automated drone could do the same thing