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News Credits: 10 · by **JazZeke** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:48 am

Hah! Rumble is RED and Frenzy is BLUE! Take THAT, suckas!

News Credits: 3 · by **Wireless_Phantom** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:11 pm

If they aren't very expensive I think I'll grab the Laserbeak/Frenzy pack, since my reissue Lazerbeak has long since lost his head and I don't own the Frenzy/Rumble mold.

News Credits: 149 · by **Big Grim** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:21 pm

When did Laserbeak's laser get so short?

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:32 pm

Big Grim wrote:When did Laserbeak's laser get so short?

Good eye.

I guess Soundwave listens to Bob Barkers advice :lol:

News Credits: 10 · by **JazZeke** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:36 pm

carytheone wrote:
Big Grim wrote:When did Laserbeak's laser get so short?
Good eye.

I guess Soundwave listens to Bob Barkers advice

Pfffft.

News Credits: 11 · by **Nexus Knight** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:42 pm

carytheone wrote:
Ironhide516 wrote:So does this finally solve the 30 year old debate about which color is Frenzy and which color is Rumble
Nah the battle lines are pretty deep on this topic.

This rerelease is a deep loss for all FIRRIB fans. :-(

However! We will not back down! Has long as :HASBRO:

/

are still around, this fight shall never be over!

Shhh, no one mention that the original toys were exactly like this, as that would prove that FIBRIR was the original idea.

by **cruizerdave** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:03 pm

You know, I find that I don't like any of the cassettes as well as those originals. Even the masterpiece versions come up short when compared to those in my mind. I don't know why. I mean they've updated virtually every character from G1 in one form or another and created superior toys ... except those guys. They're just neat. Glad to see them coming back!

Expect to pay $40 a pack for them.

News Credits: 18 · by **leokearon** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:26 pm

I'm just worried what will happen if they decide to reissue Ratbat, given he originally came with Frenzy

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:31 pm

leokearon wrote:I'm just worried what will happen if they decide to reissue Ratbat, given he originally came with Frenzy

Maybe they will save him for the Soundblaster release?

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:40 pm

Nexus Knight wrote:Shhh, no one mention that the original toys were exactly like this, as that would prove that FIBRIR was the original idea.

Damnit! I was gonna do just that after seeing all the comments! Yeah, this is nothing new. The G1 Hasbro releases always followed RIRFIB. It's the G1 cartoon that first gave us RIBFIR. Since then, Hasbro releases have alternated between the two naming schemes, fueling the fires of the debate. Takara has always remained loyal to RIRFIB, though, and even swapped the names back for Japan's release of the G1 cartoon a year later. Since this "Vintage G1" line is trying to emulate the original releases as much as possible, right down to how Soundwave and his minions were bundled and sold, it makes sense that Hasbro would retain the original RIRFIB naming scheme for this line.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:50 pm

cruizerdave wrote:You know, I find that I don't like any of the cassettes as well as those originals. Even the masterpiece versions come up short when compared to those in my mind. I don't know why. I mean they've updated virtually every character from G1 in one form or another and created superior toys ... except those guys. They're just neat. Glad to see them coming back!

I still say to this day, G1 Ravage is one of the most elegant Transforming toys ever made.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:50 pm

Frenzy / Rumble

Original toys

Blue / Red

Marvel comics

Blue / Red

US cartoon

Red / Blue

Japanese cartoon

Blue / Red

Ladybird Books

none / Red

Kid Stuff

none / Red

Dreamwave Generation One continuity

Blue / Red

G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers continuity

Red / Blue

Alternators toys

none / Red

Diamond Select

Red / Blue

Music Label earphones

Blue / Red

Robot Heroes

none / Red

G1: The Awakening

Blue / Red

Transformers (2010 toyline)

none / Blue (canceled)

Transformers United

Blue / Red

Masterpiece

Blue / Red

Transformers Legends

Blue / Red

Transformers: Devastation

Blue / Red

Transformers: Earth Wars

Red / Blue

Not really being upto speed on 'FIRRIB', I thought the Wiki might be helpful. They have this chart... That doesn't make it any less confusing :???:

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:52 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Nexus Knight wrote:Shhh, no one mention that the original toys were exactly like this, as that would prove that FIBRIR was the original idea.
Damnit! I was gonna do just that after seeing all the comments! Yeah, this is nothing new. The G1 Hasbro releases always followed RIRFIB. It's the G1 cartoon that first gave us RIBFIR. Since then, Hasbro releases have alternated between the two naming schemes, fueling the fires of the debate. Takara has always remained loyal to RIRFIB, though, and even swapped the names back for Japan's release of the G1 cartoon a year later. Since this "Vintage G1" line is trying to emulate the original releases as much as possible, right down to how Soundwave and his minions were bundled and sold, it makes sense that Hasbro would retain the original RIRFIB naming scheme for this line.

There's a pattern, but it's inconsistent. The main players in this war are either in team toy or team toon.

: Rumble is the one on the left or is it right?; Frumbles.jpg (110.49 KiB) Viewed 13660 times

Lifted from the TFWiki.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:12 pm

carytheone wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Nexus Knight wrote:Shhh, no one mention that the original toys were exactly like this, as that would prove that FIBRIR was the original idea.
Damnit! I was gonna do just that after seeing all the comments! Yeah, this is nothing new. The G1 Hasbro releases always followed RIRFIB. It's the G1 cartoon that first gave us RIBFIR. Since then, Hasbro releases have alternated between the two naming schemes, fueling the fires of the debate. Takara has always remained loyal to RIRFIB, though, and even swapped the names back for Japan's release of the G1 cartoon a year later. Since this "Vintage G1" line is trying to emulate the original releases as much as possible, right down to how Soundwave and his minions were bundled and sold, it makes sense that Hasbro would retain the original RIRFIB naming scheme for this line.
There's a pattern, but it's inconsistent. The main players in this war are either in team toy or team toon.

Frumbles.jpg

Lifted from the TFWiki.

None of that contradicts what I said at all, actually. Takara Tomy has always done it RIRFIB, and Hasbro switches back and forth. Where I take offense, though, is in the name of that JPEG. Everyone knows their proper couple name is "Rumbzy!" [-(

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:13 pm

I want to be excited for these but im sure they're going to be really over priced, wouldnt be surprised at all if they are around $30 if not more. Hopefully these will be the next hot rod & they'll show up in clearance for next to nothing

News Credits: 3600 · by **Seibertron** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:27 pm

The Cassette reissues are absolutely amazing, especially in that beautiful G1 packaging. Soundwave and the cassettes are my weak spot alongside Pretenders! I like Blaster, but he just didn't do it for me like Soundwave.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:32 pm

Megatron Wolf wrote:I want to be excited for these but im sure they're going to be really over priced, wouldnt be surprised at all if they are around $30 if not more. Hopefully these will be the next hot rod & they'll show up in clearance for next to nothing

Yeah, I am with you there. These seem awesome and I always wanted a G1 ravage but I am weary on the price. Also, because these will be really sought after, I fear that I will have to pay that high price (if its high) just to ensure I get them. I am hoping for a $20 CAD or less price point.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:35 pm

Well I'll be keeping my eye out for two sets, as per the Hot Rod, Devastator, Prime and Mini Vehicles reissues for some friends. Hopefully they, alongside the Soundwave and second batch of Mini vehicle reissues, will come in after MP BW Megatron drops...

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:36 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:
carytheone wrote:stuff
None of that contradicts what I said at all, actually.

Wow there must be a knee jerk response to assume people are trying to argue on the internet. I was supporting what you said with a visual reference. The vast majority of times RIRFIB (the pattern) with a few exceptions (the inconsistency). le sigh

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:38 pm

A 'visual reference' someone else made two minutes earlier, and put a little more effort into than just copying a jpg... >:oP

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:47 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:A 'visual reference' someone else made two minutes earlier, and put a little more effort into than just copying a jpg...

Yeah I saw that after I hit submit. Took a few minutes to copy, paste, crop and upload the screen cap. And yours wasn't copied from the TFWIki? So I guess I was supposed to delete my copied info that I didn't paste first?

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:50 pm

Mine was copied from the Wiki, only as plain text which I then manually adjusted on the page, as I was doing other things.
The '

' indicates it's no big deal.

News Credits: 3600 · by **Seibertron** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:03 pm

leokearon wrote:I'm just worried what will happen if they decide to reissue Ratbat, given he originally came with Frenzy

Maybe they'll do Enemy, or do the actual version of Frenzy that came with Ratbat which was the cheap version with plastic feet instead of die-cast, but came with the gold weapons.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:06 pm

Or confuse the issue even more, releasing Ratbat with Overkill or Slugfest?

News Credits: 3600 · by **Seibertron** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:17 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Or confuse the issue even more, releasing Ratbat with Overkill or Slugfest?

I'd love to see them have some fun with this and do a Wing-thing (orange Ratbat) with Enemy 2-pack. That would be awesome. And a Howlback and Garboil 2 pack would be awesome as well. They could do endless Cassettes!

Though I'd really love to see Hasbro release Slamdance and Squawkbox at long last, who have never been reissued. I thought we'd get reissues of them long before we'd ever see "reissues" of the Dinosaur cassettes.