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How would you order each Transformers cartoon/movie/OVA that you've seen in terms of greatness, quality, and enjoyment (with #1 being the best)?

This is not the same thing as "what's your favorite series?" Instead, you are to list each and every Transformers cartoon, movie, and OVA (original video animation) that you've seen, putting them in the order that you think defines how good each is. If you've seen enough, you should have a maximum of three separate lists.

Though, there are a few things to note:
1. Do not blend the cartoons, movies, and OVAs into one single list; keep each category separated.
2. Only list cartoons that you have seen either the entirety of or the majority of. If you have only seen a few episodes of a certain series and have not seen at least approximately 2/3 of it, exclude it from the list. As, it would be unfair to judge an incomplete series without having seen the bulk of it.

As a means of reference, here is a list of each and every Transformers cartoon (with episode #'s), theatrical movie, and OVA.

Cartoons

• The Transformers (G1) - 98 episodes (split into two series in Japan, with a total of 11 new clip episodes added in)
• Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: The Headmasters - 35 episodes (plus 3 clip episodes)
• Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Chōjin Masterforce - 42 episodes (plus 5 clip episodes)
• Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory - 32 episodes (plus 12 clip episodes)
• Beast Wars: Transformers - 52 episodes (split into two series in Japan, with 2 episodes treated as movies, and 2 new clip episodes added in)
• Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers - 43 episodes
• Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo - 35 episodes
• Beast Machines: Transformers - 26 episodes (plus 1 clip show in the Japanese version)
• Transformers: Robots in Disguise - 39 episodes (3 of which are clip episodes, and differed from the 3 clip shows of the Japanese version)
• Transformers: Armada - 52 episodes
• Go-Bots - 4 episodes (2 came packed with Speed-Bot, 2 more aired on TV in limited broadcasts. This is not the same as the 1980s Challenge of the Gobots cartoon)
• Transformers: Energon - 52 or 51 episodes (one was unaired/undubbed in English, another was originally a TV special but aired as an episode in English)
• Transformers: Cybertron - 52 episodes
• Transformers Animated - 42 episodes (eps. 1-3 and 30-32 each aired as two TV specials)
• Transformers Universe (2008) - 2 episodes ("Action Blast 1" and "Fight for Energon", both were online flash cartoons at Hasbro's website)
• Transformers: Cyber Missions - 6 or 13 episodes (6 have aired, 13 were said to exist, online flash cartoons)

Theatrical Movies

• The Transformers: The Movie (1986)
• Beast Wars Special Super Lifeform Transformers (specifically, the "Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger" portion)
• Transformers (2007)
• Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

OVAs

• Scramble City: Mobilization
• Scramble City (stop-motion toys version)
• Shūta and Grand's Masterforce Super-Secrets!
• Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone - Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!
• Transformers: RobotMasters - Fight! The Group of the Strongest Commanders!
• Transformers: RobotMasters - The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters
• Theft of the Golden Disk
• Beast Wars Diorama Story

I'll start now. Here’s my order of each cartoon, movie, and OVA in terms of how good each was.

Cartoons
1. Beast Wars
2. Animated
3. Super-god Masterforce
4. A tie between Beast Machines & Robots in Disguise
5. Cybertron
6. The Headmasters
7. A tie between G1, Victory, and Armada
8. Go-Bots
9. Energon
10. Cyber Missions
11. Universe (2008)

I’ve only seen 4 episodes of Beast Wars II and none of Beast Wars Neo. So, I can’t fully judge any of those. And Prime's still going, so I can't give that a proper judgement yet.

Also, some of these may be subject to change when/if I see more of the Japanese versions of the Unicron Trilogy and Car Robots later on.

Theatrical Movies
1. The Transformers: The Movie (1986)
2. Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger
3. Transformers (2007)
4. Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

OVAs
1. Theft of the Golden Disk
2. Scramble City (toys version)
3. RobotMasters - The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters
4. Zone - Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!
5. Scramble City: Mobilization
6. Shūta and Grand's Masterforce Super-Secrets!
7. RobotMasters - Fight! The Group of the Strongest Commanders!

I have not seen any of the Beast Wars Diorama Story.

TV shows:
1) Beast Machines
2) Beast Wars
3) Transformers
4) Transformers: Headmasters
5) Transformers: Super God Masterforce
6) Transformers: Cybertron
7) Transformers: Energon
8) Transformers: Armada
9) Transformers: Beast Wars Neo
10) Transformers: Victory
11) Transformers: Beast Wars II
12) Transformers: Animated
13) Transformers: Robots in Disguise

Movies:
1) Transformers: The Movie (1986)
2) Transformers (2007)
3) Transformers: Beast Wars II: The Movie
4) Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

OAV:
1) Transformers: Scramble City part 1
2) Transformers: Zone
3) Transformers: Scramble City part 2

Cyberstrike wrote:OAV:
1) Transformers: Scramble City part 1
2) Transformers: Zone
3) Transformers: Scramble City part 2

Huh? There's no such thing as a sequel to Scramble City. At least, no official one. Any sequels to it are most likely fanmade.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberstrike wrote:OAV:
1) Transformers: Scramble City part 1
2) Transformers: Zone
3) Transformers: Scramble City part 2

Huh? There's no such thing as a sequel to Scramble City. At least, no official one. Any sequels to it are most likely fanmade.

It's Scramble City (stop motion toys version).
I read somewhere a long ago that is the name of "Scramble City (stop-motion toys version)" as you called it. It sounds better anyway.

Cyberstrike wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberstrike wrote:OAV:
1) Transformers: Scramble City part 1
2) Transformers: Zone
3) Transformers: Scramble City part 2

Huh? There's no such thing as a sequel to Scramble City. At least, no official one. Any sequels to it are most likely fanmade.

It's Scramble City (stop motion toys version).
I read somewhere a long ago that is the name of "Scramble City (stop-motion toys version)" as you called it. It sounds better anyway.

It's not called "Part 2". It's the exact same story as the animated version (with the exception of the Galvatron toy appearing) and is also only called "Scramble City".

Though, how were you able to see this? The only watchable versions of it that I can find online are in extremely poor quality.

Okay, I finally got around to watching all 13 Cyber Missions episodes and... to call them mediocre would be an understatement.

I mean, I knew it was hard to find a series worse than Energon, but, wow, there was little-to-no thought put into any of this! I can understand them not trying to make it be a "great" series, but they could have at least tried to make it "good", or even "decent". But nope, what we get something so bad that it looks like a mere grade school child made it for school at the last instant.

The CGI was tacky. No one's mouths moved beyond the second episode, leaving many to either speak with their mouths always closed or always open. The voices were shoddy, as nearly every Decepticon sounded the same. The plots were simple, but very flat, as almost nothing that important happened in any of them. And the whole thing just felt rushed and unformulated.

The only positive I can give it is that it wasn't as much a hackjob as the two Universe webisodes. Whatever effort they tried to put into this didn't hold up.

Speaking objectionally, however, this series did give us the only fictional portrayal of a Power Core Combiner duo: Smolder and his smart-mouth Mini-Con Chopster. And, it established a new location in the movies: a human city named Scramble City.

Final verdict: Worse than Energon, but only barely above Universe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QVE2MFgLq8

Sabrblade,i think that you are being unfair with Cyber Missions,since they are not meant to be series in they same sway as the others.

TulioDude wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QVE2MFgLq8

Hey, cool. Finally someone puts up a clear clean version to watch (now if only someone out there would make a faithful fansub...).

Thanks.

TulioDude wrote:Sabrblade,i think that you are being unfair with Cyber Missions,since they are not meant to be series in they same sway as the others.

A cartoon's a cartoon, no matter its intention. Even if each episode was only a few minutes long, that's no excuse for making it so... cringeworthy. I've seen much better done in the same duration and for similar purpose, but this was a real disappointment.

I will admit that I could see some potential for it to be more entertaining, but it just fell short.

from the Tf series/movies I've seen:


TV/Cartoons:
G1
TF:Prime TAS
TFA Beast Wars
Beast Machines
TF:Cybertron
Tf:Armada
TF:Energon


Theatrical Movies:
Transformers(2007)
The Transformers: The Movie (1986)
Transformers ROTF

Slashercon wrote:TV/Cartoons:
G1
TF:Prime TAS
TFA Beast Wars
Beast Machines
TF:Cybertron
Tf:Armada
TF:Energon

Is that a tie between Animated and Beast Wars, or just a typo?

Either way, it looks like you've seen all English-language shows except for RiD.

Though, you might want to take Energon off that list since the rules of this thread say to list only those that you have seen at least 2/3 of, and you said in another thread that you never got passed episode 4 of Energon. 4/52 =/= 2/3.

Sabrblade wrote:

Slashercon wrote:TV/Cartoons:
G1
TF:Prime TAS
TFA Beast Wars
Beast Machines
TF:Cybertron
Tf:Armada
TF:Energon

Is that a tie between Animated and Beast Wars, or just a typo?

Either way, it looks like you've seen all English-language shows except for RiD.

Though, you might want to take Energon off that list since the rules of this thread say to list only those that you have seen at least 2/3 of, and you said in another thread that you never got passed episode 4 of Energon. 4/52 =/= 2/3.

okay, what I meant to say was
TV/Cartoons:
G1
TF:Prime TAS
TFA (Tied with Beast Wars)
Beast Wars (Tied with TFA)
Beast Machines
TF:Cybertron
and Tf:Armada

Sorry for the confusion