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Xterminator wrote:

Pontimax 01 wrote:

Kibble wrote:

Prime Riblet wrote:I am probably in the minority saying this, but Bumblebee is pretty boring to me. I wish Hasbro would have figured out a way to hide the seats of the car in bot mode.

I think he's decent, but I do think he's overrated...and I think the seat might be the primary reason I feel that way. They bother me a lot.

That's why I cut them off. Do it right and they kind of look like his arm armor...gauntlet..things.

Besides liking a lot my HA Bumblebee, I also get annoyed by the exposed seats in Robot-mode. I even thought myself of chopping-off part of the seats, but I'm not brave enough for that

What I really would like to see as a solution for the seat issue, is an up-grade provided by a third-party supplier: new seats that fold (like in HA Barricade) for both arms, plus a right hand to be plugged into the plasma cannon. It shouldn't be difficult at all to manufacture such up grade !

I did this to the seats:


and I"m happy with him. Maybe they should have made the backrest a bit shorter so the arm bits looked better.

BB's just a lot sleeker looking without the seat backs. Just don't get rid of the missle holders, as they form the rocker panels in car mode.

Thanks a lot for posting the pictures !

Both modifications (painted seats and chopped seats) look great. In the case of the BB with chopped seats, is it still possible to place Sam inside the car as a driver ?

Mykltron wrote:

Xterminator wrote:

Pontimax 01 wrote:

Kibble wrote:

Prime Riblet wrote:I am probably in the minority saying this, but Bumblebee is pretty boring to me. I wish Hasbro would have figured out a way to hide the seats of the car in bot mode.

I think he's decent, but I do think he's overrated...and I think the seat might be the primary reason I feel that way. They bother me a lot.

That's why I cut them off. Do it right and they kind of look like his arm armor...gauntlet..things.

Besides liking a lot my HA Bumblebee, I also get annoyed by the exposed seats in Robot-mode. I even thought myself of chopping-off part of the seats, but I'm not brave enough for that

What I really would like to see as a solution for the seat issue, is an up-grade provided by a third-party supplier: new seats that fold (like in HA Barricade) for both arms, plus a right hand to be plugged into the plasma cannon. It shouldn't be difficult at all to manufacture such up grade !

I did this to the seats:


and I"m happy with him. Maybe they should have made the backrest a bit shorter so the arm bits looked better.

Where did you get a "right hand" for your HA BB ?

Xterminator wrote:Thanks a lot for posting the pictures !

Both modifications (painted seats and chopped seats) look great. In the case of the BB with chopped seats, is it still possible to place Sam inside the car as a driver ?

Generally yes, since the seat surface is still there. But the backrest is gone, so he doesn't plug in anymore. It wasn't an issue for me though, as I took my Sam and Mikala figures and put them in my chopped 2000 Pontiac Firebird model. And Bumble never makes it to car mode anyhow.

Xterminator wrote:Thanks a lot for posting the pictures !

Both modifications (painted seats and chopped seats) look great. In the case of the BB with chopped seats, is it still possible to place Sam inside the car as a driver ?

If you're going to chop them off, do it above the molded concentric circles to preserve the accuracy to the CGI.

Xterminator wrote:

Mykltron wrote:

Xterminator wrote:

Pontimax 01 wrote:

Kibble wrote:

Prime Riblet wrote:I am probably in the minority saying this, but Bumblebee is pretty boring to me. I wish Hasbro would have figured out a way to hide the seats of the car in bot mode.

I think he's decent, but I do think he's overrated...and I think the seat might be the primary reason I feel that way. They bother me a lot.

That's why I cut them off. Do it right and they kind of look like his arm armor...gauntlet..things.

Besides liking a lot my HA Bumblebee, I also get annoyed by the exposed seats in Robot-mode. I even thought myself of chopping-off part of the seats, but I'm not brave enough for that

What I really would like to see as a solution for the seat issue, is an up-grade provided by a third-party supplier: new seats that fold (like in HA Barricade) for both arms, plus a right hand to be plugged into the plasma cannon. It shouldn't be difficult at all to manufacture such up grade !

I did this to the seats:


and I"m happy with him. Maybe they should have made the backrest a bit shorter so the arm bits looked better.

Where did you get a "right hand" for your HA BB ?

I made it. It's got a wire frame so it's poseable as well. I can make you one for about 30GBP.

I'd like to see this line extended a bit:
G1 Hot rod w/Daniel
RiD Side Burn w/Kelly
RiD X-brawn w/Koji
TFA Bumblebee w/s3 Sari

anybody else?

adamassc wrote:I'd like to see this line extended a bit:
G1 Hot rod w/Daniel
RiD Side Burn w/Kelly
RiD X-brawn w/Koji
TFA Bumblebee w/s3 Sari

anybody else?

You had me until you mentioned Side Burn and X-Brawn... *gag*

adamassc wrote:I'd like to see this line extended a bit:
G1 Hot rod w/Daniel
RiD Side Burn w/Kelly
RiD X-brawn w/Koji
TFA Bumblebee w/s3 Sari

anybody else?

G1 Bumblebee w/Spike

Midnight_Fox wrote:

adamassc wrote:I'd like to see this line extended a bit:
G1 Hot rod w/Daniel
RiD Side Burn w/Kelly
RiD X-brawn w/Koji
TFA Bumblebee w/s3 Sari

anybody else?

G1 Bumblebee w/Spike

VW says no, so it would have to be Classics BB w/Spike

Mykltron wrote:
If you're going to chop them off, do it above the molded concentric circles to preserve the accuracy to the CGI.

Xterminator wrote: Where did you get a "right hand" for your HA BB ?

I made it. It's got a wire frame so it's poseable as well. I can make you one for about 30GBP.

Congratulations, you did a very good job. As I said before, the toy looks great after the modifications.

About buying a "BB right hand", right now it's not the best time for me. Thank you very much for offering such possibility.

I'm still busy acquiring the remaining HA figures of my interest (Jazz, Skids and Mudflap) and because of my self-imposed monthly budget for TF Toys, I only would be able to invest in such great upgrade after the collection is complete.

Thanks again. We keep in touch ...

In my opinion on this line from best to worst is:

Jazz
BB
Barricade
Sideswipe
cant really comment on Skids and Mudflap cause i dont have them and dont care for them.

Also, can someone provide the link to SS backpack fix as well?

So far I've only got Barricade and Sideswipe, and will probably get Jazz too.

My favorite is Barricade as it is the most movie-accurate of the line, and probably one of the best designed. Everything fits perfectly in the vehicle mode, there are minimal cut lines and giveaway signs of the robot mode. The articulation in robot mode is just amazing, and it's able to achieve most of the dynamic poses that its onscreen counterpart can.

The best thing I like about this one is that its 'interaction feature' for the passenger figure is subtle, and can be kept out of sight to maintain its movie-accuracy, unlike the other figures of the Human Alliance series. It is also the single one in the series where the 'Human Alliance' is non-human, but ironically Frenzy's inclusion makes more sense than any of the others. With the exception of Sam Witwicky, does any of the other human characters spend any real time with the TFs they are packaged with? Bumblebee's always either getting shot up, maimed, or being berated for saving Sam, so there's really not much value to that alliance either

Since the demise of the Alternators line, nothing has really come close to realistic vehicle/transformer quality since the Human Alliance line, and Barricade gets my vote as the best of the lot.

adamassc wrote:I'd like to see this line extended a bit:
G1 Hot rod w/Daniel
RiD Side Burn w/Kelly
RiD X-brawn w/Koji
TFA Bumblebee w/s3 Sari

anybody else?

I only collect TF from the movies toy-lines, so I would like to see released ...

Jolt (with Leo maybe)
Sideways (with Alice maybe)
Soundwave with Ravage and the very-thin small decepticon ( I don't know his name)

However, if Hasbro is willing to release some bigger vehicles, it would be awesome to have ...

Ironhide (with Epps and Lenox maybe)
Ratchet (with Sam and Mikaela maybe)
Rampage (with Sam's parents)

But I don't even know if the HA toy-line is profitable enough to survive until TF3.
Hasbro doesn't even care to distribute them in parts of Europe, like the Benelux where I live.
I'm buying HA via on-line shops only ...

Xterminator wrote:Soundwave with Ravage and the very-thin small decepticon ( I don't know his name)

^Reedman.

And yeah, if they created a larger size scale, I'd love to see...
Blackout & Mustache Man (who I think they should have done with Barricade)
Megatron & Archibald Witwicky
Optimus Prime & possibly a Transformers 1 style Sam.

Xterminator wrote:

Mykltron wrote:
If you're going to chop them off, do it above the molded concentric circles to preserve the accuracy to the CGI.

Xterminator wrote: Where did you get a "right hand" for your HA BB ?

I made it. It's got a wire frame so it's poseable as well. I can make you one for about 30GBP.

Congratulations, you did a very good job. As I said before, the toy looks great after the modifications.

About buying a "BB right hand", right now it's not the best time for me. Thank you very much for offering such possibility.

I'm still busy acquiring the remaining HA figures of my interest (Jazz, Skids and Mudflap) and because of my self-imposed monthly budget for TF Toys, I only would be able to invest in such great upgrade after the collection is complete.

Thanks again. We keep in touch ...

I know, it's an expensive hobby. Upgrade parts are even more expensive. PM me if you are ever in a position to get the hand. I have one happy customer over in the States already!

Mykltron wrote:

Xterminator wrote:

Mykltron wrote:
If you're going to chop them off, do it above the molded concentric circles to preserve the accuracy to the CGI.

Xterminator wrote: Where did you get a "right hand" for your HA BB ?

I made it. It's got a wire frame so it's poseable as well. I can make you one for about 30GBP.

Congratulations, you did a very good job. As I said before, the toy looks great after the modifications.

About buying a "BB right hand", right now it's not the best time for me. Thank you very much for offering such possibility.

I'm still busy acquiring the remaining HA figures of my interest (Jazz, Skids and Mudflap) and because of my self-imposed monthly budget for TF Toys, I only would be able to invest in such great upgrade after the collection is complete.

Thanks again. We keep in touch ...

I know, it's an expensive hobby. Upgrade parts are even more expensive. PM me if you are ever in a position to get the hand. I have one happy customer over in the States already!

What do you mean with "PM", and how to do it ?

Sorry for the basic question, but I'm a new user of the forum ...

"PM" just a personal/private message you send to a particular user. Go to where it says "message" and you can send a message directly to another member from there.

Xterminator wrote:

Mykltron wrote:

Xterminator wrote:

Mykltron wrote:
If you're going to chop them off, do it above the molded concentric circles to preserve the accuracy to the CGI.

Xterminator wrote: Where did you get a "right hand" for your HA BB ?

I made it. It's got a wire frame so it's poseable as well. I can make you one for about 30GBP.

Congratulations, you did a very good job. As I said before, the toy looks great after the modifications.

About buying a "BB right hand", right now it's not the best time for me. Thank you very much for offering such possibility.

I'm still busy acquiring the remaining HA figures of my interest (Jazz, Skids and Mudflap) and because of my self-imposed monthly budget for TF Toys, I only would be able to invest in such great upgrade after the collection is complete.

Thanks again. We keep in touch ...

I know, it's an expensive hobby. Upgrade parts are even more expensive. PM me if you are ever in a position to get the hand. I have one happy customer over in the States already!

What do you mean with "PM", and how to do it ?

Sorry for the basic question, but I'm a new user of the forum ...

You'll see a PM button under my user name.

I havent picked up any of the HA figures yet as the ones in stock near me dont take my interest. However ill more then likely pick up Jazz if i see him,

Kibble wrote:

Kingpun wrote:On an unrelated note, I want HA Mudflap but don't want to pay a fortune for him I thought I read on here a while ago that he would be repackaged for Hunt for the Decepticons, any actual confirmation of that? Hopefully still with Simmons as his human buddy.

I don't know that that's ever been confirmed. I think that was specualtion based on a pre-order from BBTS which may have been a bit misleading. I can't seem to find the pre-order/listing on BBTS any more either, but to me it sounded more like they mighta just been getting in a shipment of cases with Mudflap and Bumblebee of the ROTF variety.

From the lasted Hasbro Q&A from ActionFigs.com:

Hasbro: We applaud your diligent research into the future assortment listings, as your research has shown there are no plans to re-release Mudflap in the Human Alliance scale at this point in time.

Kibble wrote:

Kibble wrote:

Kingpun wrote:On an unrelated note, I want HA Mudflap but don't want to pay a fortune for him I thought I read on here a while ago that he would be repackaged for Hunt for the Decepticons, any actual confirmation of that? Hopefully still with Simmons as his human buddy.

I don't know that that's ever been confirmed. I think that was specualtion based on a pre-order from BBTS which may have been a bit misleading. I can't seem to find the pre-order/listing on BBTS any more either, but to me it sounded more like they mighta just been getting in a shipment of cases with Mudflap and Bumblebee of the ROTF variety.

From the lasted Hasbro Q&A from ActionFigs.com:

Hasbro: We applaud your diligent research into the future assortment listings, as your research has shown there are no plans to re-release Mudflap in the Human Alliance scale at this point in time.

Man, that is total BS on Hasbro's part. Looks like they're starting to pull the same kind of crap those HACKS at Mattel are infamous for-poorly distributing certain products in the line so obtaining them is either a huge, expensive hassle or impossible altogether. Now there's going to be a nice hole in many people's HA collection due to these idiotic shenannigans. Real nice, Hasbro!

Well that's just not prime.

I'll be checking Marshalls and TJ Max tomorrow, but if I don't see him there, I'll just suck it up and head to ebay. What kills me is that I actually like Mudflap, and I bet some #$&#!@ who hated him probably got him for retail price. Then again, a good chunck of the aforementioned #$&#!@ probably overpaid for him too. Still...

Cobalt Prime wrote:

Kibble wrote:

Kibble wrote:

Kingpun wrote:On an unrelated note, I want HA Mudflap but don't want to pay a fortune for him I thought I read on here a while ago that he would be repackaged for Hunt for the Decepticons, any actual confirmation of that? Hopefully still with Simmons as his human buddy.

I don't know that that's ever been confirmed. I think that was specualtion based on a pre-order from BBTS which may have been a bit misleading. I can't seem to find the pre-order/listing on BBTS any more either, but to me it sounded more like they mighta just been getting in a shipment of cases with Mudflap and Bumblebee of the ROTF variety.

From the lasted Hasbro Q&A from ActionFigs.com:

Hasbro: We applaud your diligent research into the future assortment listings, as your research has shown there are no plans to re-release Mudflap in the Human Alliance scale at this point in time.

Man, that is total BS on Hasbro's part. Looks like they're starting to pull the same kind of crap those HACKS at Mattel are infamous for-poorly distributing certain products in the line so obtaining them is either a huge, expensive hassle or impossible altogether. Now there's going to be a nice hole in many people's HA collection due to these idiotic shenannigans. Real nice, Hasbro!

Amen brother that is some BS. Why drown us in deluxe Mudflaps we don't won't and not give us the HA Mudflap we do? What the hell are they thinking?

I'm only now starting to look for HA Mudflap, but I just find it for sale at ebay.

Does anyone know an European-based on-line shop to recommend ? The two ones I know ( Archonia in Belgium and Kapow-Toys in the UK) don't have HA Mudflap available anymore.