The Energon Pub

I'm a bit bummed about this as I was going to fax in an order for an Iacon package today. Guess I'll have to hope the prices on Ebay won't be much more than the box set from last year.

****!

Absolutly not surprising!

Now Hasbro, take some notes, 3 figures in this set made this happen. Now just imagine if you gave everyone a chance to get those?

Thats right, the rich would have gotten richer! idiots

I had a feeling the set would sell out fairly soon, so I'm definitely glad to have bought 2 of them. I'm hoping that I can use the spare set (or just a couple figures from it) as leverage to get my hands on a Sunstorm attendee exclusive... assuming of course that they even make one for the convention.

Poop.

Too friggin slow.

At least I have custom seekers for the Classics shelf already.

Dreadwind & Alpha Trion, though...

Poop.

lol "poop"

Counterpunch wrote:

Ultra Prime wrote:I find this tidbit of news rather interesting.

The defning outcry about it's expense was huge and yet the set is now sold out.
The bubbling anger of 3 out of the 6 popular seekers being in this set versus mass retail and yet the set is now sold out.
The huge cries of people saying I'm not going to throw away $300 on three seekers and yet this set is now sold out.

I wonder if anyone who spent their time being so angry are pissed for a different reason of now not being able to get the set. I guess in this case it's "you whine, you lose".

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What can I say, BW Megs has a flair for the spoken word. Yessss?

I knew they'd all be gone. I never would have figured this soon, though...

So then what happens if you order a Primus package?

Oh well, Guess I lost out.

I am so glad that I sent in my form last week and got my confirmation on May 2... I would be really pissed to seeing that I live 30 min from Prov. R.I. I will be reallly early on Thurs. that is for sure!!

The latest Botcon e-mail:

In case you have not heard, the boxed BotCon sets (Primus and Iacon) are now sold out. We appreciate all you who have applauded our efforts to bring you this outstanding set. It is our goal to bring you the best products that we can conceive.

All of the sets have been manufactured and we thought an uplift of 33 per cent over last year would be enough. The reason we did not announce the edition quantity when we first announced the set was that we were hoping to be able to make just enough to meet demand. We did have an opportunity to raise the quantity one time before the final production started. We thought that 1,050 would be enough but, it looks like there was demand past this number. It is very hard to forecast these numbers. In the future, the faster you register, the better able we are to adjust the quantity manufactured to the demand desired. Our goal is not to under produce or over produce. We want everyone that wants a set to have the opportunity to purchase them at issue price. The other main limiter we had for the number of sets is the capacity of the rooms for the Saturday night dinner event. There just isn't any more space left.

Here are some of the questions we are getting:

Q: Can I still come to BotCon if I don't have a Primus package?
A: Sure you can. You can come as a Protoform (all access, just no toys or dinner event on Saturday night) or General Admission (Saturday and/or Sunday only).

Q: Can I add on a Mini-Con package for someone to come with me?
A: No. We are at capacity for the Saturday night dinner event.

Q: Can I still get movie tickets for Thursday night?
A: Yes, but you must be a registered package holder and attending to order movie tickets.

Q: Can I still get in the drawing for the last 100 seats for the Hasbro visit if I sign up as a Protoform?
A: Yes, until May 31. Those selected for the visit will be posted at BotCon.com on June 1.

Q: If I have a Primus or Iacon package, can I still add on a loose set?
A: Yes, until we run out. You are limited to one loose set per boxed set.

Q: How many loose sets are being offered?
A: 400

Q: Since you have run out of boxed sets, can I just order a loose one?
A: No.

Q: When will I get my written confirmation?
A: Sometime around the end of May.

Q: Are there Dealer booths still available.
A: Yes, but don't delay.

Q: I heard there was a different charity event for the Movie on Thursday night that is $75. Does this have anything to do with our screening?
A: No. This event is for local Hasbro charity patrons and is not at the same time or in the same theatres as the BotCon screening. The funds from this event will go to the same charities as ours.

Q: If I sent in my application in the last couple of days, when will I get a confirmation that you have accepted my application?
A: By the end of next week.

Q: If my application is not accepted, will I receive notification as well?
A: Yes.

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I hope that answers most of your questions.

As to prior year's sets. We have 4 sets left from the 2006 BotCon Dawn of Futures Past, and 254 of the 2005 BotCon Descent into Evil. These are available in the club store at transformersclub.com/shop

We also have loaded the remainder of the Astrotrain and Airazor figures in the store.

Thanks again for your support and we look forward to the best BotCon ever!

Brian

Ultra Prime wrote:I find this tidbit of news rather interesting.

The defning outcry about it's expense was huge and yet the set is now sold out.
The bubbling anger of 3 out of the 6 popular seekers being in this set versus mass retail and yet the set is now sold out.
The huge cries of people saying I'm not going to throw away $300 on three seekers and yet this set is now sold out.

I wonder if anyone who spent their time being so angry are pissed for a different reason of now not being able to get the set. I guess in this case it's "you whine, you lose".

Was there really any doubt it would sell? There's no shortage of people out there eager to part with their money.
And why is it everytime someone complains, it's 'whining?'

Talked to a local friend whom I met through TFW and he is going to add a loose set to his Primus package order for me! Wheeee! Glad I was social and attended local fan events in Florida. Box was gonna be thrown in a closet anyways so now I don't have to worry about that, and for $100 less than the boxed set!

Double post,oops!

MagnusPrimal wrote:

Ultra Prime wrote:I find this tidbit of news rather interesting.

The defning outcry about it's expense was huge and yet the set is now sold out.
The bubbling anger of 3 out of the 6 popular seekers being in this set versus mass retail and yet the set is now sold out.
The huge cries of people saying I'm not going to throw away $300 on three seekers and yet this set is now sold out.

I wonder if anyone who spent their time being so angry are pissed for a different reason of now not being able to get the set. I guess in this case it's "you whine, you lose".

Was there really any doubt it would sell? There's no shortage of people out there eager to part with their money.
And why is it everytime someone complains, it's 'whining?'

Whining is ceaseless complaining in the face of largely overwhelming facts, most of which essentially have no chance of changing.

For example, complaining about the price of the toys inspite of the rational argument that small production runs cost more, is complaining.

Counterpunch wrote:

MagnusPrimal wrote:

Ultra Prime wrote:I find this tidbit of news rather interesting.

The defning outcry about it's expense was huge and yet the set is now sold out.
The bubbling anger of 3 out of the 6 popular seekers being in this set versus mass retail and yet the set is now sold out.
The huge cries of people saying I'm not going to throw away $300 on three seekers and yet this set is now sold out.

I wonder if anyone who spent their time being so angry are pissed for a different reason of now not being able to get the set. I guess in this case it's "you whine, you lose".

Was there really any doubt it would sell? There's no shortage of people out there eager to part with their money.
And why is it everytime someone complains, it's 'whining?'

Whining is ceaseless complaining in the face of largely overwhelming facts, most of which essentially have no chance of changing.

For example, complaining about the price of the toys inspite of the rational argument that small production runs cost more, is complaining.

When was 'whining' redefined?

whine (hwīn, wīn) Pronunciation Key
v. whined, whin·ing, whines

v. intr.

1. To utter a plaintive, high-pitched, protracted sound, as in pain, fear, supplication, or complaint.
3. To complain or protest in a childish fashion.
3. To produce a sustained noise of relatively high pitch: jet engines whining.


com·plaint (kəm-plānt') Pronunciation Key
n.
1. n expression of pain, dissatisfaction, or resentment.
2. A cause or reason for complaining; a grievance.

To complain incessantly about something you know won't change pretty much fits in definition number two there. And the more alot of people complained the more childish they've gotten about it. Thus they have been whining. Note that not everyone who has complained in the fandom has been whining. Some have made their grievance known and then moved on, others had made sure that when they complained it was in a logical fashion with ideas and references to ways that it could possibly be fixed.

However the sheer number of "Hasbro suxxs", "FunPub is cheating us" etc. are nothing but whining. And those are the people who simply need to STFU and move on with life.

tentagil wrote:To complain incessantly about something you know won't change pretty much fits in definition number two there. And the more alot of people complained the more childish they've gotten about it. Thus they have been whining. Note that not everyone who has complained in the fandom has been whining. Some have made their grievance known and then moved on, others had made sure that when they complained it was in a logical fashion with ideas and references to ways that it could possibly be fixed.

However the sheer number of "Hasbro suxxs", "FunPub is cheating us" etc. are nothing but whining. And those are the people who simply need to STFU and move on with life.

Fair enough.

NebulanFree wrote:Poop.

Too friggin slow.

At least I have custom seekers for the Classics shelf already.

Dreadwind & Alpha Trion, though...

Poop.

If you've got the skills for custom Seekers, then surely it's within your ability to do the same for Dreadwind and AT?

You know one thing that they could do, considering that they didn't make enough for Botcon:

Make some more, & sell them at the same price as the others in their club store.

.....doubt they will, though.....

Why doesn't Hasbro mass produce Thrust? He would sell incredibly well. I wouldn't even mind getting a Thundercracker and I typically don't like Thundercracker. I don't understand their thinking. I thought they wanted to make money.

Omega-1 wrote:Why doesn't Hasbro mass produce Thrust? He would sell incredibly well. I wouldn't even mind getting a Thundercracker and I typically don't like Thundercracker. I don't understand their thinking. I thought they wanted to make money.

If Hasbro mass produced Thrust, he would likely have the same wings as Ramjet because Hasbro wouldn't want to pony up the cash for a remold of a figure that made it to clearance in large quantities (in my area at least).

Omega-1 wrote:Why doesn't Hasbro mass produce Thrust? He would sell incredibly well. I wouldn't even mind getting a Thundercracker and I typically don't like Thundercracker. I don't understand their thinking. I thought they wanted to make money.

Because they can't now. Once it's a botcon exclusive, they can't produce one and sell it at retail.
I'd like to see them make a Thrust mold, paint it a different color, then sell it at retail. I'd buy two, one to repaint into Thrust's colors, and one to leave unaltered. Legally, they could do that.

Counterpunch wrote:Whining is ceaseless complaining in the face of largely overwhelming facts, most of which essentially have no chance of changing.

For example, complaining about the price of the toys inspite of the rational argument that small production runs cost more, is complaining.

'Whining' was being thrown around pretty early in this instance.