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Coptur wrote:I completely agree with about the character deaths I used to not mind it but now it annoys me. I really wanted to see more or reflector but they went anskilled him off....twice
Randomhero wrote:
Welcome the the Game of Thrones/Walking Dead era where anyone can die at any time. Death is part of life. It gives gravity to the situation. The fact you're talking about it shows that. You kill a generic, who cares. You kill an actually character, that leaves an impact. Not every comic needs to be like Marvel/DC and death means nothing and they'll be back next month.
I can't believe it's been almost a year and half since Bee and Shockwave died AND THEYRE STILL DEAD.
With this issue? I won't be surprised if it ends with needlenose or tracks dying by the other's hands. Or both die.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
padfoo wrote:
I agree with a lot of what you're all saying about needless deaths...... At times our society reminds me of the Romans with their colosseums thirsty for blood to sooth their thirst (boredom) for a gritter reality. More deaths in our entertainment of fictionally known characters adds to the realism of the cellphone/wearables generation. With that said too many awesome and interesting characters go unexplored and we get the all too familiar and safe Optimus and Megs in their endless struggle.....
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Randomhero wrote:
Welcome the the Game of Thrones/Walking Dead era where anyone can die at any time. Death is part of life. It gives gravity to the situation. The fact you're talking about it shows that. You kill a generic, who cares. You kill an actually character, that leaves an impact. Not every comic needs to be like Marvel/DC and death means nothing and they'll be back next month.
I can't believe it's been almost a year and half since Bee and Shockwave died AND THEYRE STILL DEAD.
With this issue? I won't be surprised if it ends with needlenose or tracks dying by the other's hands. Or both die.
Depth?
I don't recall seeing any deaths that actually made me care asides from the Wreckers, Rewind (which they ruined probably thanks to Tumblr or/and angry fanboys), Pipes, Ambulon, Trailbreaker, Bumblebee and Shockwave.
When characters die I expect to feel something but I don't because we don't know jack about anyone they decide to killoff.
Remember Barrelroll or Springarm and Wheelarch?
That's the proper way to kill off a character it drives the plot and sets motivation for other characters.
Besides its nothing like Game of Thrones they don't ever bother killing someone such as Sideswipe or Hoist or Inferno or anyone important outside of Bumblebee, Ironhide, Sunstreaker, Wheeljack, Trailcutter, Scrapper, The Coneheads, The Battlechargers.
And they brought back three of those guys and more then likely Scrapper's going to posses Scoop and come back from the dead.
It's just a matter of time waiting for which 1986, 1988 or Japanese Transformer they brutally kill for no other reason outside of "Hey were lazy and can't resolve conflicts besides lots and lots of death"
Randomhero wrote:
youre response makes no sense at all lol.
"I dont care or feel anything when a character dies...EXCEPT about a dozen characters, here's their names."
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Randomhero wrote:
youre response makes no sense at all lol.
"I dont care or feel anything when a character dies...EXCEPT about a dozen characters, here's their names."
How can you not make sense out of that?
Seriously the point is very crystal clear... shows how people need everything pointed out in extreme detail is english not your first language?
I'm saying with the exception of the characters I have said IDW comic deaths are done poorly.
Plus that's a dozen characters out of the hundreds of characters that die for nothing.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
So, the character and story driven deaths have an impact, the deaths of characters that are essentially redshirts don't. I think that's intentional.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:
So, the character and story driven deaths have an impact, the deaths of characters that are essentially redshirts don't. I think that's intentional.
Is Trialbreaker a reshirt?
Are the Technobots reshirts?
Because their deaths were pretty bad with not that much impact overall (I felt sad for Trailbreaker but the issue he died in was pretty random to me)
There are some others who also had dumb deaths that were not redshirts.
Randomhero wrote:mirageandjazz1197 wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:
So, the character and story driven deaths have an impact, the deaths of characters that are essentially redshirts don't. I think that's intentional.
Is Trialbreaker a reshirt?
Are the Technobots reshirts?
Because their deaths were pretty bad with not that much impact overall (I felt sad for Trailbreaker but the issue he died in was pretty random to me)
There are some others who also had dumb deaths that were not redshirts.
The technobots were totally red shirts in IDW(also only 2 have died, the rest have appeared in the background of RID and MTMTE)
You're argument is also not very valid because you said that The Wreckers deaths left an impact with you. Obviously from what I get from that is you didn't understand that book. Those guys were red shirts who died in pointless stupid ways. That's not my opinion, that's from James Roberts himself. Him and nick chose nobody characters to kill in circumstances that were completely avoidable except Iron Fist whose true purpose there was to die. Everyone one else who died was an avoidable circumstance.
Randomhero wrote:
The technobots were totally red shirts in IDW(also only 2 have died, the rest have appeared in the background of RID and MTMTE)
You're argument is also not very valid because you said that The Wreckers deaths left an impact with you. Obviously from what I get from that is you didn't understand that book. Those guys were red shirts who died in pointless stupid ways. That's not my opinion, that's from James Roberts himself. Him and nick chose nobody characters to kill in circumstances that were completely avoidable except Iron Fist whose true purpose there was to die. Everyone one else who died was an avoidable circumstance.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Real quick, just because I like to keep most of my comics in a chronological order in regards to story progression (with some exceptions) Should I place combiner hunters before or after this issue?
Va'al wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Real quick, just because I like to keep most of my comics in a chronological order in regards to story progression (with some exceptions) Should I place combiner hunters before or after this issue?
Before. Definitely.
If you look at the review of CH, I mention something in there about its timeline placing!
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