CombaticonsCombine? wrote:I don't know why, but I really liked seeing Soundwave losing his cool. He just had his dreams of a peaceful Deceptifuture smashed, and he's ready to fight for it.
Randomhero wrote:I very disagree I really liked this issue. It wasn't really a conclusion,! it really felt like the first half of a maxi-series and it kinda is. It didn't conclude anything it just built up and I'm pumped for All Hail Optimus now. Personally I felt it was a solid issue that was paced fine.
I'm curious about that too, but it might just come down to proximity - they're not suicidal, and telling big purple that they don't feel like being a Galvacon anymore when he's standing right there is a mite dangerous.CombaticonsCombine? wrote:A little confused seeing Frenzy and Rumble working with Galvatron against Soundwave's ideals, but they haven't really been as associated with 'Wave in this universe, have they?
Genericon #378 wrote:Come on, IDW! Why do you guys keep killing all the cool characters? Trailbreaker, Hardhead, Sideswipe, and, for the love of god, SWINDLE! You guys **** killed Swindle! Have you seen the reaction to these deaths? These are beloved characters we're talking about.
Of those, only the first two feel definite. Swindy got shot in the chest, climbed over to Rattrap and said whispered he had info that could take down Starscream. Rattrap calls over to Starscream that Swindle's totaaallllyyyy dead, don't worry boss, especially don't come over and check, you can trust me!Genericon #378 wrote:Come on, IDW! Why do you guys keep killing all the cool characters? Trailbreaker, Hardhead, Sideswipe, and, for the love of god, SWINDLE! You guys **** killed Swindle! Have you seen the reaction to these deaths? These are beloved characters we're talking about.
Va'al wrote:CombaticonsCombine? wrote:I don't know why, but I really liked seeing Soundwave losing his cool. He just had his dreams of a peaceful Deceptifuture smashed, and he's ready to fight for it.
Same here. I love Barber's Soundwave. I really do, and I really feel for the guy.Randomhero wrote:I very disagree I really liked this issue. It wasn't really a conclusion,! it really felt like the first half of a maxi-series and it kinda is. It didn't conclude anything it just built up and I'm pumped for All Hail Optimus now. Personally I felt it was a solid issue that was paced fine.
That's obviously fine, we are allowed to disagree!
I just came away from my first read with '..is that it?', the second as 'Well, meh' and just a sense of growing frustration at the condensed version of a story that feels like getting to a point and sort of spilling part of its contents as it skips ahead. I am looking forward to AHO, but not because this issue built it up for me.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Swindle has to live so they can form Bruticus (which Windblade #7 strongly implied was going to happen) and I really am hoping Sideswipe lives. Trailbreaker is definite dead cause his brain was crushed and I don't get Hardhead's death: Cyclonus and him were both ex-DU, and Cyclonus survived having his shield destroyed, but Hardhead disintegrated. I don't get that (some explain please?)
Randomhero wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Swindle has to live so they can form Bruticus (which Windblade #7 strongly implied was going to happen) and I really am hoping Sideswipe lives. Trailbreaker is definite dead cause his brain was crushed and I don't get Hardhead's death: Cyclonus and him were both ex-DU, and Cyclonus survived having his shield destroyed, but Hardhead disintegrated. I don't get that (some explain please?)
-COUGH STILL A BRIEFCASE WITH PARADOX LOCKS IN PLAY COUGH-
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Randomhero wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Swindle has to live so they can form Bruticus (which Windblade #7 strongly implied was going to happen) and I really am hoping Sideswipe lives. Trailbreaker is definite dead cause his brain was crushed and I don't get Hardhead's death: Cyclonus and him were both ex-DU, and Cyclonus survived having his shield destroyed, but Hardhead disintegrated. I don't get that (some explain please?)
-COUGH STILL A BRIEFCASE WITH PARADOX LOCKS IN PLAY COUGH-
Forgot about that. Interesting...
Still, my question stands: why did Cyclonus live and Hardhead die? Same circumstances, different bot
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Randomhero wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Swindle has to live so they can form Bruticus (which Windblade #7 strongly implied was going to happen) and I really am hoping Sideswipe lives. Trailbreaker is definite dead cause his brain was crushed and I don't get Hardhead's death: Cyclonus and him were both ex-DU, and Cyclonus survived having his shield destroyed, but Hardhead disintegrated. I don't get that (some explain please?)
-COUGH STILL A BRIEFCASE WITH PARADOX LOCKS IN PLAY COUGH-
Forgot about that. Interesting...
Still, my question stands: why did Cyclonus live and Hardhead die? Same circumstances, different bot
Randomhero wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Randomhero wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Swindle has to live so they can form Bruticus (which Windblade #7 strongly implied was going to happen) and I really am hoping Sideswipe lives. Trailbreaker is definite dead cause his brain was crushed and I don't get Hardhead's death: Cyclonus and him were both ex-DU, and Cyclonus survived having his shield destroyed, but Hardhead disintegrated. I don't get that (some explain please?)
-COUGH STILL A BRIEFCASE WITH PARADOX LOCKS IN PLAY COUGH-
Forgot about that. Interesting...
Still, my question stands: why did Cyclonus live and Hardhead die? Same circumstances, different bot
I CAN ANSWER THAT! Lol
The dead universe was being controlled by Nova Prime. He can can manipulate that universe. When hardhead's sheild was destroyed he became undead again and Nova disintegrated him! Nova was very vain too, he probably wanted to keep Cyclonus around to gloat.
Or: hardhead may be hard, but Cyclonus is harder.
CombaticonsCombine? wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Randomhero wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Swindle has to live so they can form Bruticus (which Windblade #7 strongly implied was going to happen) and I really am hoping Sideswipe lives. Trailbreaker is definite dead cause his brain was crushed and I don't get Hardhead's death: Cyclonus and him were both ex-DU, and Cyclonus survived having his shield destroyed, but Hardhead disintegrated. I don't get that (some explain please?)
-COUGH STILL A BRIEFCASE WITH PARADOX LOCKS IN PLAY COUGH-
Forgot about that. Interesting...
Still, my question stands: why did Cyclonus live and Hardhead die? Same circumstances, different bot
Vector Sigma.
After the whole deal with Kimia and the (aptly titled, whoever came up with this name) Galvacons before MTMTE started, Cyclonus sacrificed himself to stop Galvatron. He was supposed to die, but since he was in Vector Sigma's chamber the energy wave that reformatted Cybertron (I think it's the same wave? Not sure.), he got a facefull of resurrection.
Hardhead is deadsauce though.
Deadhead? Harddead? I dunno.
CombaticonsCombine? wrote:After the whole deal with Kimia and the (aptly titled, whoever came up with this name) Galvacons before MTMTE started,
Randomhero wrote:And I totally respect your opinion and the review. I can see this issue polarizing people. You either loved it or didn't. The solicites very much sold this as a conclusion and if you were looking for a conclusion I can understand frustration. The solicites are getting pretty bad in my opinion anymore. It said Optimus vs Galvatron, didn't happen. Cosmos vs soundwave, didn't happen. It all comes together! It didn't.
Va'al wrote:Randomhero wrote:And I totally respect your opinion and the review. I can see this issue polarizing people. You either loved it or didn't. The solicites very much sold this as a conclusion and if you were looking for a conclusion I can understand frustration. The solicites are getting pretty bad in my opinion anymore. It said Optimus vs Galvatron, didn't happen. Cosmos vs soundwave, didn't happen. It all comes together! It didn't.
Oh, I very much expect it all to happen from #50 onwards - but how it just happened here did not sit well with me.
Optimus is a colonialist prick with egotistic tendencies (as we already knew, really; he shoulda stayed Orion Pax flitting through space). I do not understand why Windblade and the others just shrug and go along for the ride.
As for Cosmos and Soundwave, I expected no showdown at all. I thought Soundwave would get burned, as he did, and that Cosmos would be there for it. Which did happen. In fact, right now their narrative arc is the one I am most interested in.
Side note: Skywarp. Can someone just help that bot out? Please? It breaks my heart to see him abused to this point, he's almost developing Stockholm syndrome towards Galvatron (he had him tied up since FOREVER, for crying out loud!).
Randomhero wrote:Va'al wrote:Randomhero wrote:And I totally respect your opinion and the review. I can see this issue polarizing people. You either loved it or didn't. The solicites very much sold this as a conclusion and if you were looking for a conclusion I can understand frustration. The solicites are getting pretty bad in my opinion anymore. It said Optimus vs Galvatron, didn't happen. Cosmos vs soundwave, didn't happen. It all comes together! It didn't.
Oh, I very much expect it all to happen from #50 onwards - but how it just happened here did not sit well with me.
Optimus is a colonialist prick with egotistic tendencies (as we already knew, really; he shoulda stayed Orion Pax flitting through space). I do not understand why Windblade and the others just shrug and go along for the ride.
I get what you mean with Optimus. I'm not annoyed but I don't understand what is going on with hm. He took his name back but nothing else. He's not really leader of anything or anyone. He's telling Autobots what to do but not really ordering them and yes the Camians are worshipping him but he really just feels out of place. I k ow that's what the story is doing with him but it doesn't feel fluid and natural. I'm sure with the return of Sentinel and the Titans Return story will give us a better focus than he's had in the past year.
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