Be careful with that conclusion! See: TF RedemptionRandomhero wrote:Scourge is dead
Be careful with that conclusion! See: TF RedemptionRandomhero wrote:Scourge is dead
ScottyP wrote:Be careful with that conclusion! See: TF RedemptionRandomhero wrote:Scourge is dead
Va'al wrote:ctrlFrequency wrote:Va'al wrote:ctrlFrequency wrote:You know, I actually felt this was a fairly satisfying issue.
Shock.
Horror.
Awe.
*sarcasm detectors on full alert*
Your detectors must be faulty.
Burn wrote:P.S.
**** you CF.
ctrlFrequency wrote:Va'al wrote:ctrlFrequency wrote:Va'al wrote:ctrlFrequency wrote:You know, I actually felt this was a fairly satisfying issue.
Shock.
Horror.
Awe.
*sarcasm detectors on full alert*
Your detectors must be faulty.
Hard to tell sometimes with you
Randomhero wrote:ScottyP wrote:Be careful with that conclusion! See: TF RedemptionRandomhero wrote:Scourge is dead
John barber revealed it in one of the GI joe issue commentaries. He didn't survive the Chaos event. In my opinion not the place to reveal that and it didn't make me happy but yeah...redemption was just sweeps.
Trust me, I want scourge back too and I'm hoping he can be retconned back.
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Randomhero wrote:ScottyP wrote:Be careful with that conclusion! See: TF RedemptionRandomhero wrote:Scourge is dead
John barber revealed it in one of the GI joe issue commentaries. He didn't survive the Chaos event. In my opinion not the place to reveal that and it didn't make me happy but yeah...redemption was just sweeps.
Trust me, I want scourge back too and I'm hoping he can be retconned back.
Thank you for that tidbit, I didn't know Scourge was confirmed dead. I also wish he would come back. I like what directions the other surviving dead universe members took and I'd like to see Scourge get some sort of personality too (considering he never really did)
Genericon #378 wrote:1984forever wrote:From now on I'm going to try really hard not to buy anything from IDW.
Prime fighting with that stupid flag is the lamest thing I have ever seen him do.
Galvatron's Decepticons look more like the X-Men now, complete with Telepath and Teleporter, than an army.
the book continues to fill up with corny IDW characters and fan built bots with no personalities.
Soundwave has been turned into a hippie.
Why even wear a badge now!? The factions are all blurred.
The entire IDW Transformers run is a giant mess.[/]
Then why are you even here?
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Who knows, maybe Scourge will show up again one day. Maybe he is just listed as dead and he comes back later. Has happened before. As for Jhiaxus, I'm not sure about him. Bludgeon is still around so maybe he is too. It is all a bit vague, especially with characters that don't have explicit deaths or mentioned dead
Randomhero wrote:
At least Mindwipe is getting some comic love.
President-prime wrote:Right now, Optimus Prime is only a name.
budmaloney wrote:Every week I waited to read the comic and every week I continue to wait, being teased in each one. Being promised closure. When a sort of closure finally comes, it passes by so fast and so nonchalantly that it didn't feel worth it.
"All this for...this? That's the "big" move he made?"
questions like this keep popping up
President-prime wrote: I felt that in the IDW comics, Optimus Prime had taken a backseat to being the hero and awesome warrior that we know and respect. He's willing to sacrifice himself for others, and is revered in battle.
President-prime wrote:In BW Neo, when he shows up, he beats the crap out of everyone. That's a feared warrior. Right now, Optimus Prime is only a name.
Burn wrote:P.S.
**** you CF.
ctrlFrequency wrote:The hero now doesn't just beat the crap out of everyone bad. Partly because right and wrong are not so simple, and people who were heroes in the past forced their will on others by just beating the crap out of their enemies and forcing others to do what they felt was right ... even if that was not what the others wanted. Which is the whole point of this issue.
Our history is riddled with people who forcefully took over other cultures/countries because they thought they were protecting them. But those cultures/countries didn't need/want peotected. And it isn't anyone's right, no matter how right they are, to force their will on someone else who doesn't want it.
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I think we are all forgetting another little hint: Optimus is not the Optimus he was before combiner wars. Prowl has infected is mind, and some of the stuff that is happening is stuff Prowl would do. Now mind you this may not have helped Optimus had it not happened, but some of his actions can be said to be related to Prowl and his styles
Dr Va'al wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I think we are all forgetting another little hint: Optimus is not the Optimus he was before combiner wars. Prowl has infected is mind, and some of the stuff that is happening is stuff Prowl would do. Now mind you this may not have helped Optimus had it not happened, but some of his actions can be said to be related to Prowl and his styles
If Barber and IDW go down the mind-control route again, I will not be a happy Va'al.
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Dr Va'al wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I think we are all forgetting another little hint: Optimus is not the Optimus he was before combiner wars. Prowl has infected is mind, and some of the stuff that is happening is stuff Prowl would do. Now mind you this may not have helped Optimus had it not happened, but some of his actions can be said to be related to Prowl and his styles
If Barber and IDW go down the mind-control route again, I will not be a happy Va'al.
no no no no no, not mind control.
Remember how the constructicons started speaking in much more unity and stopped being so individual? The personalities blended during the combination process.
the same thing may be happening to Prime. He and Prowl combined, and the combination may have blended the personalities some. It's not mind control so much as it is fusing personalities
Dr Va'al wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Dr Va'al wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I think we are all forgetting another little hint: Optimus is not the Optimus he was before combiner wars. Prowl has infected is mind, and some of the stuff that is happening is stuff Prowl would do. Now mind you this may not have helped Optimus had it not happened, but some of his actions can be said to be related to Prowl and his styles
If Barber and IDW go down the mind-control route again, I will not be a happy Va'al.
no no no no no, not mind control.
Remember how the constructicons started speaking in much more unity and stopped being so individual? The personalities blended during the combination process.
the same thing may be happening to Prime. He and Prowl combined, and the combination may have blended the personalities some. It's not mind control so much as it is fusing personalities
Still not happy.
[...] One of the things with Optimus Prime is that he’s a good guy. Like, a really good, powerful, guy. So over the years, he'd sort of had doubt introduced to him in the IDW comic books, where he was a little more hesitating in his actions. As I was writing him, I started to realize he was maybe going down that direction again, and it seemed to me—as a character, from his point of view—he’d want to avoid that.
But at the same time, one of the looming questions has been “what does it mean to be Prime?” Starscream’s ruling Cybertron; Megatron’s an Autobot... Some people see him as a war leader, others see him as a messianic figure... Some ’bots are loyally on his side and will follow him anywhere, and others—old friends—start to doubt him.
[...]
Nrama: As the battle and the main story ended, the issue kicked into another gear with that dream sequence from Optimus. What can you say about that? Is it a premonition? Will some (or all) of it come true?
Barber: Some of Optimus's dream is literally true. Some is symbolic. Some is what he fears. Maybe some is leading him to what he needs to know. And a big part of it recalls an ancient prophesy from the days of the original Primes. Is it Optimus projecting himself onto this old tale? Or is it the prophecy asserting itself onto its object?
[...]
But what really comes next is all of the pieces of this series coming together. The politics of Cybertron, the ancient history of Earth and Cybertron, the relationship with Earth and its giant metal visitors. Optimus Prime, Starscream, Prowl, Arcee, Victorion—all those characters come together. Plus ghost-Bumblebee. Or hallucination-Bumblebee, whatever Starscream is seeing. Even poor dead Bumblebee has a role to play!
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Dr Va'al wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Dr Va'al wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I think we are all forgetting another little hint: Optimus is not the Optimus he was before combiner wars. Prowl has infected is mind, and some of the stuff that is happening is stuff Prowl would do. Now mind you this may not have helped Optimus had it not happened, but some of his actions can be said to be related to Prowl and his styles
If Barber and IDW go down the mind-control route again, I will not be a happy Va'al.
no no no no no, not mind control.
Remember how the constructicons started speaking in much more unity and stopped being so individual? The personalities blended during the combination process.
the same thing may be happening to Prime. He and Prowl combined, and the combination may have blended the personalities some. It's not mind control so much as it is fusing personalities
Still not happy.
I wouldn't expect you to be. Mind games are irritating and a bother to understand
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