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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:29 pm

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Considering Maximus' rival in this is Overlord and considering we've now got the expanded universe going... throw Ginrai into MASK, give him an Optimus Prime suit and shoot him into space to kick Scorponok's ass!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:51 pm

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Kurona wrote:Considering Maximus' rival in this is Overlord and considering we've now got the expanded universe going... throw Ginrai into MASK, give him an Optimus Prime suit and shoot him into space to kick Scorponok's ass!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:57 pm

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Maximus/Overlord never felt right to me. Especially since it's been so one-sided. In LSoTW Overlord tortured and mutilated Maximus, and Max has never gotten revenge, even though it's been 6 years. Yeah, he got a couple of shots in on the Lost Light when Overlord escaped, but it nowhere near what Overlord did to him. So unless Max gets to rip Overlord apart (which I don't see happening, unless Max gets a huge upgrade, due to Overlord being a Phase 6-er) it's not a rivalry. Maximus and Scorponok go together much better.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ArmadaPrime » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:10 pm

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A huge upgrade you say? ;)
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:05 pm

Motto: "Individual freedom above all else."
Yeah, but that was temporary. :-P

It would be pretty cool to see Overlord take on a Maximus-driven Titan, even if the fight made Overlord look like the ultimate badass. But I guess it would be fair, since Overlord is a Phase-6-er.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:21 am

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Some fanning:

http://chrismcfeely.tumblr.com/post/165 ... at-tfcon-i

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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ArmadaPrime » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:28 am

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Ooh Va'al you do know how to spoil a man.
Honestly though I'd be almost tempted not to think too much into it. I feel like the symbols/guiding hand/clans thing has been a long-term plan of Roberts', in this case he likely just said "draw a mysterious faction symbol" without giving much detail until later in the process.
Which, now that I say it, doesnt at all sound like Roberts' MO, he's well known for having intricately detailed scripts. The thick plottens...
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:31 am

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Could also easily be early plans before he decided on something else.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:04 am

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Ok, so first, a recap of the stuff I had dug up on the mystery bots I posted last week (Skip through if you've already read)
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:So I wanted to make this post in regards to the mysterious bots from issue 46 of MTMTE and that showed up again in LL #8. It's sort of a "track them through the issues" thing.

So:

First little thing was MTMTE 19's reveal of the constructed cold trials with Tyrest. Flame is on trial, and includes the desecration of bodies and other related crimes.

Story first really starts in Last Stand of the Wreckers. Overlord takes over the prison for over 3 years, and during that time Grimlock disappears and Flame must've disappeared too, as he was an Autobot and Overlord ordered all bots to be killed at the end (and they were), so he had to have been spirited away too. MTMTE issue 6 would also state that when Overlord was interrogating Fort Max, he stated that he didn't want Aequitus, he wanted what it was built to hide. We thought nothing of it at the time, but what if there was something, and that's where Grimlock and Flame went?

Forward to MTMTE 7 and 8 with the Scavengers. They find a symbol ship with aborted protoforms and a wooden robot (sound familiar LL 8 coffin bot?) along with Grimlock, who is brain damaged and basically doesn't even know who he is. He was used for something that damaged him internally, whether it be by actual surgical procedures or a case of Skids where his experiences damaged him emotionally/psychologically.

Potentially related but uncertain at this point: MTMTE 21. Skids sees through Tyrest's portal to cyberutopia. A spark that speaks in pictures, and the pictures include a bot and con symbol and the Lost Light, along with the "symbol" and 5 planets/moons, and the setting of cyberutopia is even 5 planets/moons. Pharma, who was already found by Tyrest, has his headless corpse pulled through by tentacles before it closes. Tyrest also disappears ala Magnus hand trick style. Star Saber teleports away half blinded and hasn't been seen or heard from since.

MTMTE 42 shows Thunderclash's map and the "symbol" again, and as it uses plug outlets for the symbol, it would appear to indicate that this is something related to power potentially.

MTMTE 46 shows the mysterious bots for the first time. More protoforms hidden by standard transformers practice who are protected by the mystery bots in exchange for hiding whatever operation is happening. Mention is made of another location, which is visited by the bots in issues 8 and 9 of LL. Also shows Grimlock drawing the symbol and writing a phrase that Drift would later see in his LL1 vision.

MTMTE 50 shows the bots discussing the symbol and the things they have learned about their quest. Indication is made that these symbol guys are part of one of the 5 clans of the Knights. we have also seen 5 planets/moons related to the symbol that is most prevalent.

MTMTE 54: Skids, the one bot who saw the other side of the portal and thus what the spark said, dies.

LL1: Drift has his vision that includes himself, Rodimus, and Grimlock facing off against Pharma and an army of Sparkeaters and symbol ships, with the message Grim was writing etched into the ground and it is raining those crystal things that in

LL5: we find out Rung's true purpose is to create these crystals, which is crucial in the process of birthing new cybertronians.

LL6: Anode is shown to be a blacksmith who crafts the crystals from Rung to allow for new cybertronians to be born.

LL8: mystery bots show up again, led by Flame, and they are still using a symbol ship and they are after blacksmiths who craft life while they are at a location where protoforms are being grown. There is also a robot who turns into a wooden coffin, killed by the black block consortia.

If I missed anything, please add to this!



And now, updated with the stuff we learned this issue, complete with thoughts:

Well, ok, so this issue has me torn in 2 very different fronts. For one thing, I have similar complaints to when we were dealing with the personality ticks: we are dealing with very outlandish stuff that to me really didn't work. That whole process felt sort of half-hearted and I wasn't that impressed with the whole bring Skids back to life thing. And then now Nautica doesn't even care about him, which kinda really sucks. It felt like yet another filler issue, and the same was said for Anode and Lugs part. There really wasn't too much weight behind it, and I felt like we got very little for what could have been.

Now mind you, the last 2 pages are where things really hit. At first, it was like the end of Sweath, where there is a huge reveal calling back to something really far back in IDW that elevated an otherwise lackluster story. But then, this is more than that. Think about it related to that large "overall bad guys post" that I posted in the LL thread last week. This isn't just finding the Necrobot, this is tying in a story that could be said to start back in Devastation era times. And it makes so much more sense that Scorponok, who was really missing and it was weird he was, being in G9 with all that stuff, and now he is the glue holding this entire story together. His rivalry with Grimlock is why Grim is involved. Scorp knew of Flame and his moral ambiguity and thus employed him. Scorponok has always tampered with life, and the Magnificence being involved with a story that has Hot Rod/Rodimus in it again, and it having been missing and being so much more than was thought. That last page was Swearth done right. It was a reveal that really sets things up for the rest of the series, tied so many over-arcing things together, and pulls strings dating back what 10,12 years? This is what Roberts is good at, and it is finally showing through. The last page got me back, pulled me back into that story. We are finally getting the payoff with thousands of clues that have been riddled in for over a decade.

IN SHORT OF LONG ASS POST

Things are falling in place, this is the sort of thing I like, Lost Light may be getting back on track. It just needs to stop the really strange stuff distracting us from the major things that only get a page or 2 dedicated to them
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby snavej » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:44 pm

Motto: "Follow your instincts and your common sense."
So, if Mengel removed most or all of Nautica's feelings for Skids, surely that will have a knock-on effect in her mind. All thoughts in a mind are connected, sometimes in obvious ways and sometimes more subtly. I reckon that Nautica will be faced with further problems due to this memory deletion: a slow unravelling of the mind. She may find it harder to feel love/friendship for others in her circle. Of course, that will affect some characters around her. It all depends how much effect Mengel's machine had on her brain: how deep were the cuts, so to speak. :-s
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Big Grim » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:33 pm

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Kurona wrote:Considering Maximus' rival in this is Overlord and considering we've now got the expanded universe going... throw Ginrai into MASK, give him an Optimus Prime suit and shoot him into space to kick Scorponok's ass!


That is a bitchin' idea! Love it!
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Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #10

Postby ScottyP » Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:14 pm

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Rounding out the new covers seen on PreviewsWorld today are three covers for the upcoming and presumably delayed until October Lost Light #10. This first chapter in "The Mutineers Trilogy" will have a main cover available by Jack Lawrence, being seen here in color for the first time. Additionally, variant covers by Nick Roche and Marcelo Matere will also be available, the latter being a 10-copy Retailer Incentive cover. While covers don't always indicate the events to come, some readers may not be surprised by one of these new covers' depictions of the latest captain of the Lost Light as he deals with another famous Autobot! Check them all out mirrored below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest news on IDW's Transformers and Hasbro Universe comics.

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HOMECOMING! FIRST AID, the Autobots' Chief Medical Officer, returns to the Lost Light to find that everything has changed: the ship is now under the command of the treacherous GETAWAY, half of his closest friends are missing, and - most shocking of all - the crew is actually making progress...


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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ArmadaPrime » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:30 am

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Okay, I seriously adore that Lawrence cove. Are we up to... 4 now? Season one with Rod, season two with Megs, Swearth and this one?

Also, for anyone (myself included) worried about Thunderclash's moral scrupulousness and whether he'd actually go along with the mutiny? As Scotty highlights, I think cover 2 gives you your answer ;)
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Big Grim » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:35 am

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All of those covers are great!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Windsweeper » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:18 am

Those covers look great especially the group one. I'm just disappointed Bluestreak and Hound would go along with the mutiny. Along with Trailbreaker, they were always the nice bots of the G1 Ark crew.

Of course, as I type this I remember Bluestreak's tech spec motto, "I never met a Decepticon I didn't dislike".
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:26 am

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Alex Milne Announced as Upcoming Artist on IDW Transformers Lost Light Series

Postby william-james88 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:27 am

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Alex Milne is synonymous with the Lost Light crew, the team of Transformers found in the IDW More than Meets the Eye and Lost Light series. Even Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus is based on his designs. While he left when the book changed its name to Lost Light, James Roberts, the author, has now revealed that Alex Milne will be drawing this team again in Lost Light number 13. After that, he come back at a later date for a longer run on the book.

Here are the tweets from Roberts:

At last it can be revealed! @markerguru makes his Lost Light debut (interiors) with issue #13!

Just for this standalone issue, but he'll be back for a longer run.


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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby WreckerJack » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:46 pm

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Alex Milne is awesome and I am so glad he is returning. I wish we had more of the crew from MTMTE.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Prime Nova » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:58 pm

So that's #12,13 - unless the listing for #12 was wrong
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby SureShot18 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:04 pm

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Sweet! Milne's art is fantastic and it's been my phone wallpaper many times. However I hope this isn't just because of what people (myself included, albeit to a lesser extent) have been saying about Lawrence's art.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:06 pm

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I personally can't wait to see Anode and Lug drawn by Milne :D
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Bounti76 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:34 pm

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Kurona wrote:I personally can't wait to see Anode and Lug drawn by Milne :D


No need to wait! They're between Rodimus' right arm and leg, unless Milne didn't draw that cover.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:38 pm

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Bounti76 wrote:
Kurona wrote:I personally can't wait to see Anode and Lug drawn by Milne :D


No need to wait! They're between Rodimus' right arm and leg, unless Milne didn't draw that cover.

True, but as a part of the story :)
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:25 pm

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Windsweeper wrote:Those covers look great especially the group one. I'm just disappointed Bluestreak and Hound would go along with the mutiny. Along with Trailbreaker, they were always the nice bots of the G1 Ark crew.

Of course, as I type this I remember Bluestreak's tech spec motto, "I never met a Decepticon I didn't dislike".


This ain't G1, there was never an Ark crew in IDW and 95 percent of the Autobots are edgy douche bags so personality means nothing unless their sarcastic or snarky meme spewing or Ratchet.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Quint » Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:21 am

Ooh, Milne's back, excellent.

I'll actually give this series another shot and start buying it again if they make his return permanent.

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