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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:02 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Why does Starscreams face look off in that cover? :-? The rest look fine, it's just his.


they all look off to me. hell, windblade almost always looks off to me cos she has such a ridiculous head design.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:51 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Why does Starscreams face look off in that cover? :-? The rest look fine, it's just his.



I didn't even notice with the subtle Optimus Crucifix shoved front and centre :roll:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:29 am

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Prime doesn't even look like that. His arms are outstretched, but he's flexing them, as if in triumph. He doesn't look like he's being crucified. It's a pretty good cover, though.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:33 am

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For those keeping track, Unicron 5 has been pushed from next week to 10/10. Unicron 6 has moved from 10/24 to 10/31.

Knowing that Andrew Griffith is/was a last minute tag-in to help with some pages on 6 makes me think that one might get pushed into November.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:35 am

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ScottyP wrote:For those keeping track, Unicron 5 has been pushed from next week to 10/10. Unicron 6 has moved from 10/24 to 10/31.

Knowing that Andrew Griffith is/was a last minute tag-in to help with some pages on 6 makes me think that one might get pushed into November.

So that would mean we would get the epilogue before the final chapter? I know unicron as a miniseries has spoiled what happens in Op but for op then to spoil the ending of unicron...
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:52 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:
ScottyP wrote:For those keeping track, Unicron 5 has been pushed from next week to 10/10. Unicron 6 has moved from 10/24 to 10/31.

Knowing that Andrew Griffith is/was a last minute tag-in to help with some pages on 6 makes me think that one might get pushed into November.

So that would mean we would get the epilogue before the final chapter? I know unicron as a miniseries has spoiled what happens in Op but for op then to spoil the ending of unicron...
Current schedule would have them out on the same day, so I guess we'll see! If Unicron 6 gets pushed further then yeah, that would be a shame, assuming the solicits for OP 25 are to be believed.
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Full Preview for IDW Transformers: Unicron #5

Postby Va'al » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:13 am

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Courtesy of IDW Publishing directly, and embargo dates passing, we have the full preview to share for this week's Transformers comics release in the form of Unicron #5 - the penultimate issue in the mini-series, and the end of the world as we know it!

The contents of the book do spoil a little of yet unreleased Optimus Prime #24, but nothing major from what is present in the preview below, so you're still clear to read if you're following the single issues. Take a look, and join us later this week for a Seibertron.com review and Energon Pub discussion!

Transformers: Unicron #5 (of 6)
John Barber (w) • Alex Milne (a & c)
THE END IS HERE! The Transformers bots make one last, desperate stand against Unicron, as Optimus Prime plunges deep into the monster—and into the dark history that spawned them both.
FC • 32 pages • $4.99

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• The final battle rages as Unicron attacks the Earth!
• Jam-packed with guest stars in a battle for survival—but will anyone make it out alive?
• Variant covers by Fico Ossio and Francesco Francavilla!


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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Black Bumblebee » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:42 am

After this issue publishes, everything else will be "last issues" and conclusions. :-(
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby YoungPrime » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:19 am

I haven't read any of the Unicron books yet save for Zero.

Having BW characters as Unicron's minions or whatever is kind of a turn off. But I'll likely just binge read this entire series at some point.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Mr.MicroMaster » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:22 am

I love how even Cobra is helping. Including three different Cobra Commanders.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Flashwave » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:41 am

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Mr.MicroMaster wrote:I love how even Cobra is helping. Including three different Cobra Commanders.

Yeah, it’s hard to rule the world when someone else shows up and goes OM NOM NOM on it
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Mr.MicroMaster » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:42 am

Flashwave wrote:
Mr.MicroMaster wrote:I love how even Cobra is helping. Including three different Cobra Commanders.

Yeah, it’s hard to rule the world when someone else shows up and goes OM NOM NOM on it

My thoughts exactly. :lol:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Nexus Knight » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:31 pm

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Flashwave wrote:
Mr.MicroMaster wrote:I love how even Cobra is helping. Including three different Cobra Commanders.

Yeah, it’s hard to rule the world when someone else shows up and goes OM NOM NOM on it

My thoughts exactly. :lol:

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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:25 pm

Black Bumblebee wrote:After this issue publishes, everything else will be "last issues" and conclusions. :-(



Still two issues of Optimus Prime left
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ScottyP » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:56 pm

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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:50 am

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"G2"

:APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :lol:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:15 am

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Va'al wrote:"G2"

:APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :lol:

I not sure I get it...
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:10 am

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YoungPrime wrote:I haven't read any of the Unicron books yet save for Zero.

Having BW characters as Unicron's minions or whatever is kind of a turn off. But I'll likely just binge read this entire series at some point.
It's a fun nod to Armada, and Beast Wars Neo to a much lesser extent. I only bring up BWN since Drancron was one of the first ones seen back in OP 14 (or 13 or whenever the Throttlebots stuff was.)

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Va'al wrote:"G2"

:APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :lol:

I not sure I get it...
Be forewarned that most jokes are not funny once explained and this will likely be one of those cases. Anyway, the middle of the scene has a big tub or container of Sparks. One of the few of them to become a Transformer so far is, more or less, G2 Sideswipe, hence the joke.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:53 pm

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Mr.MicroMaster wrote:I love how even Cobra is helping. Including three different Cobra Commanders.


ok, I'm glad I'm not going insane when I saw that. Why in the world are there 3 Cobra Commanders...man i'm glad this is all coming to an end... :BANG_HEAD:

I also think I saw a G2 Sideswipe, but he's dead right...RIGHT???....
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Daniel Adkins » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:30 pm

o.supreme wrote:
Mr.MicroMaster wrote:I love how even Cobra is helping. Including three different Cobra Commanders.


ok, I'm glad I'm not going insane when I saw that. Why in the world are there 3 Cobra Commanders...man i'm glad this is all coming to an end... :BANG_HEAD:

I also think I saw a G2 Sideswipe, but he's dead right...RIGHT???....

The reason there’s 3 Cobra Commanders is because there are 3 characters who have claimed that title: Krake (the dude in the cape) who led Cobra up until he disappeared between G.I. Joe vol. 3 and 4; Tomax (in the classic outfit) who took over leadership of Cobra from Krake but didn’t assume the Commander title until being forced into it by Baron Ironblood in Revolutionaries and now can’t remove the helmet; and the Baroness (in the cloth mask) who reorganized Cobra and declared herself the new Commander in G.I. Joe vol. 5.

Also, that G2 Sideswipe isn’t the same Sideswipe who died. He’s one of the new generation of protoforms that was born inside Trypticon back in OP #14.

I’m not sure you can really get mad if you haven’t read the other books.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:28 pm

No Review yet?

Anyway, I've read issue 5 and this flowed a lot better than the previous issue. Felt considerably less like an exposition dump than the previous issues, although there was quite a bit here too. The "reveal" (I guess?) with Nemesis seems to both come out of nowhere and perhaps dilute the already underwhelming portrayal of Unicron. My issues with the panel to panel layout of the art persist. I gave up even trying to follow the big air battle that takes place here. Which according to the Wiki, someone dies, but I couldn't tell you who or where.
This one I would give a 6.5/10. An improvement, still held back by the (haphazard) visual narrative.
Not quite sure how this is going to all be tied up in one more issue, so I am cynically expecting an epilogue/Coda piece to follow.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:48 pm

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Yeah the epilogue is the last issue of Optimus Prime.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:57 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Yeah the epilogue is the last issue of Optimus Prime.



After reading this issue, I thought that would be the case. Ta ;)^
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IDW Transformers Unicron #5 Review

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:16 pm

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Synopsis

THE END IS HERE! The Transformers make one last, desperate stand against Unicron, as Optimus Prime plunges deep into the monster—and into the dark history that spawned them both.

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I need a way out
I don't believe that it's gonna be this way
The worst is
The waiting
In this world I'm suffocating


Story

So here we are once more, with the issue before the end, the final non-final issue. And as a windup to the ultimate climax, did the book deliver? Well, see below.

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Feel Your presence
I take You in


So here's the thing about this particular book: the pacing felt much better in this issue and it feels the more cohesive compared to the other issues so far. While it was not particularly full of action, it wasn't supposed to be, as it is the calm after the destruction of Cybertron and before the final confrontation before the universe truly ends. And Jetfire and Prowl even say as much.

It also takes place following the Optimus Prime 24 comic that came out a week later (see the review from earlier today!), so it was spoilerish to review, hence the review waiting to give people time to access and process that book.

It was also cool that this book managed to make itself a Hasbro Universe book, more so than really any other book done so far. And unlike past Hasbro U events, this one finally has a proper team up across the board, even if the events feel a bit rushed, pushed, or forced. But hey, at least we got a large part of this mad universe together in some fashion!

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Breathe for the first time now
I came alive somehow


But the main issue I find in the story is the personalities of the people involved at times, as with little action and mainly setup, it feels like we got some big personalities that are clashing with each other more so than in previous issues. And with a grand total of 3 issues left in this Universe period after today with Optimus Prime 24, it feels like some of those characters may not get the ending of the story that they need or deserve. Slide is one that particularly bothers me, Spike is sort of there but not really, Prowl returning with a protege of sorts in Stardrive, and while Stardrive does play off nicely and her wraith moments are good, especially with other wraith-infected members, her taking a sort of Prowl approach doesn't really sit well with me, and it's kind of a bummer.

Shockwave is sort of still doing stuff, and the final standoff between masters of logic are set up, but I can't help but feel that this doesn't feel as rewarding as it should. The same way with the Maximals: we have memorable faces and names, but they have a small amount of lines between them, and nothing really to back them up beyond their mere recognizable appearance.

One thing the book definitely did get right though was Thundercracker, and as his story nears completion, I love the character that was made, and I love how he, Marissa, and Buster are a nice little family that loves and trusts each other. I also appreciated Trypticon and his direction, and the new generation and the protection so many feel over them. Well done there.

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I wanna break out
I found a way out
I don't believe that it's gonna be this way


But again, overall I felt there was a little bit more clashing than there could have been with different characters, and the story reads a bit less cohesively as it could, but the pacing here felt good as a pseudo-breath catcher. We got good moments, just maybe not as powerful as they deserved to be.

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Art duties fall for the second-to-last time to Alex Milne and David Garcia-Cruz, and once again they do a masterful job. The art for the series has been fantastic, but seeing the different parts of Unicron looming over Earth, and really getting a good idea of the scale of the robot mode Unicron compared to the Earth is pretty awesome. We finally get a good scale done right for Unicron.

Scale does seem to be a good strength of the book too, as we get Titans involved as well, and the background scenery is very well done considering we jump from the US to a destroyed Canadian cityscape to the African jungles to space. I appreciate the level of detail and the coloring that went into each shot as well. The colors are dark and foreboding where they are needed, vibrant and bright when action is intense or Unicron's glow is present, space is beautiful, and it does a good job of mixing together the darkness (figurative and literal) of the end while still bringing some natural beauty and properly expressing the mood of the series.

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Tell me when I'm gonna live again
Tell me when I'm gonna breathe you in
Tell me when I'm gonna feel inside
Tell me when I'm gonna feel alive


If there is one complaint I would have, it would be that the Decepticons in Africa almost appear too lightly colored compared to what we see later and are used to, but it's a minor nitpick.

Letters are handled by Tom B. Long, who does his level best (and succeeds) in making sure those previously discussed lines and colors are enjoyed to the fullest extent to give us proper scenery and people on screen while still delivering the dialogue. Kind of a cool thing to note too is Bludgeon and his speech bubbles. He continues the "God of Death" black bubbles for most of the issue, but there is a particular moment where he loses that, and he falls back to regular Bludgeon, and the lettering pulling that off was a neat touch.

Final Thoughts

When writing up this review, it was hard to give this book a score and proper credit. It's a pretty good book, a decent read, and fun to look at. But while it is a good book, it's not necessarily a good Transformers book. It tries its hardest, but ultimately, I think the overall series needed a little bit better pacing to make it a proper and good Transformers book, especially when this book showed that proper pacing can allow you to better grasp what is happening and allow you to breath for a second and take in what you are reading.

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Rebirithing now
I wanna live my life
Wanna give You everything


Make no mistake though, it's still not bad. It is fun, dark, has some good character moments, some questionable characters, kind of a lot going on to the point of a bit too much, but also clever, and it even managed to make "Titan-Mastering" a verb.

So should you read this? Yes, I think you should. Is this Lost Light 22 good? Not quite. Is it Wreckers Trilogy good? Not by a decent amount. But is it still worth your time and effort? I'd say yes. Unicron himself may not be everything we wanted him to be, but he looks amazing, and his story ultimately fits in with what the Mythos is for this universe.

Take it like that, and you can enjoy this issue as a whole.

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