IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Dead Metal Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:44 am

Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by gothsaurus Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:57 am
It was off putting at first, but by the time I reached the end of the comic I was sold.
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IDW Transformers vs G.I. Joe #1 Preview
Posted by Va'al Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:52 pm
Transformers VS G.I. JOE #1—SPOTLIGHT
Tom Scioli & John Barber (w) • Scioli (a & c)
SPACE WAR I! Earth makes contact with an alien race—and G.I. JOE is on the front lines of first contact! But when the TRANSFORMERS arrive—their version of “peace” does not match our own…
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet points:
Variant cover by Rob Liefeld!
Launching out of the smash-hit FREE COMIC BOOK DAY comic!
ALL NEW STORY, ALL NEW ART!
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by 1984forever Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:14 pm
But otherwise, I like this and I will buy ( and probably complain).
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Bleak5170 Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:15 am
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by gothsaurus Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:53 am
But for younger or casual fans, it would look really childish and odd. Maybe after reading the trade paperbacks of all the 80s TF comics and the excellent UK series you could warm up to it and see the humor?
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Va'al Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:58 am
It's just so wacky in its scope!
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Darth Jumpy Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:02 am
Also, I hope that they stop making everything in red, including the speech bubbles, in the briefing room scenes. Trying to read black on dark red in this preview was just painful.
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by gothsaurus Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:10 am
That said, I really loved the older Dreamwave crossover that was so dark and painterly. It was really gritty. But I digress...
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Va'al Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:15 am
First issue is already on second printing!
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
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IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe #1 Review
Posted by Va'al Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:36 pm
(Spoiler free-ish)
Synopsis
SPACE WAR I! Earth makes contact with an alien race—and G.I. JOE is on the front lines of first contact! But when the TRANSFORMERS arrive—their version of “peace” does not match our own…

Or maybe it does..?
Story
On a completely different note, artistically, thematically, tonally, from the concluding issue of Windblade... This week also marks the beginning of a new Transformers vs G.I. Joe ongoing from the mind and hands of John Barber and Tom Scioli, co-plotting and co-writing the whole run (as far as we know, at least). We've seen issue #0, but come along for a look at the actual start of a new thing right below here.
[Credit: Tigertrack is remotely helping out with this review, though all conclusions are my own.]

The Seibertron Comics staff
It's still completely out there. Nothing has shifted since Free Comic Book Day, as Barber and Scioli plot the arrival of Cybertronians onto Earth, as the Joes set out to meet a Decepticon delegation headed by Soundwave and the cassettes. Where is Cobra? Oh, they're there. Where are the Autobots? Do is it really matter at this point, with Soundwave taking centre stage?

Bay or Liefeld?
Plot-wise, there's a simplicity which might turn some people off the book, almost going back to the original cartoon plots from the two series - but in comics form, revelling in the creative spaces left from a stripped down narrative. There are sight gags, wordplay moments, slapstick, and some quite good action sequences, too.

Er.. action?
The countdown sequence in particular is well thought out, and really shows the decompressed, almost slowed down to the bare minimum approach that the writers are taking. And we end up picking up a plotline started in issue #0, almost to its conclusion, along with what I think is an extremely intriguing ending to the book. Both of them.
Art
Ok. So Tom Scioli is taking care of absolutely everything here, from layouts to lines to inks to colours to lettering, this is his book definitely a lot more than Barber's, and it's his vision of the two franchises that we're seeing, with his artistic tendencies and influences coming into it - and that will work two ways with readers: yes, or no.

A divisive issue
I can't see a middle ground, to be honest, the style does not allow for it. And I have to say, after getting my head round issue #0, I've come to enjoy this one a lot more than jumping into the cold deep end straight away - though I think another one to fully enjoy it. Credit note: even with Scioli on everything, I do want to make a note towards Chris Mowry's production work on this, especially the page design, and Carlos Guzman on editing, which cannot have been easy.

A sight to behold
As SDCC is coinciding with the launch of the new series in this first issue, multiple variant covers were to be expected; here's a list of what you can get: Rob Liefeld with Romulo Fajardo Jr, James Stokoe, several Tom Scioli ones, Jamie Tyndall with Ula Mos, interlocking, single, blank, GI Joe dominant, TF dominant - you name it! It's Liefeld and Fajardo in the thumbnail, in case you were wondering.
Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead
As we said in the double-team review of issue #0, this series is setting itself up to be completely bonkers, with a method in the madness. I can't stress this enough: it's not for everyone, it does not take itself seriously, but it does it with such a charm and clearly heartfelt research and execution of styles, references and planning that it will at least crack a smile.

MERP
I am still ambivalent about the artwork, as much as I do like the darker hues and overly filled panels, but it does fit the entire concept of the book from what I take from it - and my opinion quite definitely is not that of the entire comics staff! But if you're into your nostalgia pandering, your cosmic sagas, celebrations and parodying in parallel, this is definitely an issue for you - TF or Joe fan alike.
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Convoy Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:40 pm
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Va'al Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:47 pm
Convoy wrote:A rating too high to post, huh?
It's something like twentyfive purples out of D snakes.
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Mindmaster Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:02 pm
Every time I see this, I keep coming back to this:
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Darth Jumpy Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:42 pm
Besides that, I did really enjoy this issue and it made me chuckle a few times. Like the review said, it seems closer to the original cartoons than the comics, especially in terms of ridiculousness.
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Va'al Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:56 am
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Tigertrack Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:36 am
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by 1984forever Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:45 am
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Va'al Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:58 am
It might be one of those gateway series into the Transformers/G.I. Joe published universes, and that can only mean well for future ventures.
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Tigertrack Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:02 am
Va'al wrote:Someone pointed out elsewhere that this comic is getting a lot of good buzz from comics readers that are not strictly part of either fandom - which is excellent news for the writers, publisher and franchises, to be honest!
It might be one of those gateway series into the Transformers/G.I. Joe published universes, and that can only mean well for future ventures.
That's my hope.
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IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Volume 1 Pre-Orders
Posted by Va'al Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:44 am
SPACE WAR I! Earth makes contact with an alien race - and G.I. JOE is on the front lines of first contact! But when the Transformers arrive, well, let's just say you've never seen TRANSFORMERS or G.I. JOE like this! Visionary comic book maker Tom Scioli (with Transformers fan-favorite John Barber in tow) combine two of the biggest names in entertainment into the surprise breakout hit of 2014!
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Cyber Bishop Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:56 pm
Think for yourself, don't let the magic TV box and social media do the thinking for you.
Question EVERYTHING!!
Just because you have a youtube review channel doesn't make you special.
I look forward to attending a Botcon soon only to settle matters with several idiots in person (yes this is a threat).
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