IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Volume 1 Pre-Orders
Posted by Zeedust Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:12 pm
Visionary comic book maker Tom Scioli (with Transformers fan-favorite John Barber in tow) combine two of the biggest names in entertainment into the surprise breakout hit of 2014!
This is the big hit? What happened to everyone loving Windblade?!
gothsaurus wrote:I think you have to be an older fan to really appreciate these... having read comics for a good 35 years, I can recognize that this art is homaging a different era of comics... and see it as the tongue-in-cheek, funny project it is.
But for younger or casual fans, it would look really childish and odd. Maybe after reading the trade paperbacks of all the 80s TF comics and the excellent UK series you could warm up to it and see the humor?
Plus you have to have been a fan of both Transformers and G.I. Joe for that long. I came in during Beast Wars and I never got into Joe except for Renegades, so this series is leaving me cold so far.
DanaCornZine wrote:This is seriously hideous in appearance. I like the idea that we see how some people got their injuries and modifications but I can't get past this artwork that looks like it's done by someone that has no concept of proportions, depth, and straight lines. Sadly, I've been sitting comics out for a few years because the price tag is too steep.
It's the writing that bothers me. It feels like plot and characterization take a backseat to trying to string together a bunch of in-jokes and one-liners.
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Volume 1 Pre-Orders
Posted by Va'al Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:36 am
Nemesis Primal wrote:Visionary comic book maker Tom Scioli (with Transformers fan-favorite John Barber in tow) combine two of the biggest names in entertainment into the surprise breakout hit of 2014!
This is the big hit? What happened to everyone loving Windblade?!
Outside of established TF readership, this comic is selling like ridiculously hot cakes.
The first issue went to multiple printings almost immediately, as they sold out at distributor level.
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by gothsaurus Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:21 am
I guess my point is, doing side by side comparisons doesn't make a lot of sense for this one. You either get it, or you don't.
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IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe #2 Preview
Posted by Va'al Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:45 am
Transformers VS G.I. JOE #2
Tom Scioli & John Barber (w) • Scioli (a & c)
BOOTS ON THE GROUND! The war has begun—and no bars will be held! SCARLETT’s forces go head-to-head with MEGATRON’s hordes—and the most off-beat adventure in comic book history hits a new level of dangerous alliances, deadly invasions, and devastating betrayals!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
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The comic book event of the millennium!
One world was never enough for this war!
Cosmic action as you like it!
Connecting Variant Cover by Tom Scioli
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
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IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe #2 Review
Posted by Va'al Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:40 am
(Spoiler free-ish)
Synopsis
BOOTS ON THE GROUND! The war has begun—and no bars will be held! SCARLETT’s forces go head-to-head with MEGATRON’s hordes—and the most off-beat adventure in comic book history hits a new level of dangerous alliances, deadly invasions, and devastating betrayals!

Flagg: F**k yeah
Story
The introduction to Tom Scioli's world of G.I. Joe and Transformers has really been like nothing else so far, in issues #0 and #1, even with John Barber's vigilant watch. And issue #2 continues the streak of whatever-it-is this comic is doing, with its anachronistically retro style and feeling, toy advertising without the products and general action-packed whimsicalness.

I.. wut.. huh
We headed with Scarlett's team to Cybertron at the end of last issue, and this is where we find ourselves straight away, as the Joe team brings the war begun by the Decepticons to their own turf - and it sets up the rest of the universe, as Autobots are subjugated by the Kirby-esque merciless godhead figure of Megatron, and his minions.

Thanos Darkseid Megatron on his throne
Though the big bad gun is a slow build-up, Scioli does not hold back on the even bigger, if not the brighter, guns: Trypticon and Devastator, all still through the (I guess) military eyes of Scarlett and the other humans, searching for targets in true Earthican foreign policy: stamp on, blow up, then investigate the remains.

...eeeeeEEEEEEEE...
There are some amusing references to the nature of all the characters and their plastic counterparts, though as I said, without the toys existing. The dialogue is still completely over the top, and is still not for everyone, along with the thread being very very thin, though a little tighter than last month. But it's also extremely enjoyable if you can buy into the whole premise.
Art
And I suppose, the artwork. Tom Scioli perseveres in his Silver Age style of dotted galaxies, peculiar proportions, referential work (with Flash Gordon also featuring in some scene set-ups, as the commentary expands upon), mirroring what is already present in the dialogue and set-up with the visual style that some readers still consider a hurdle.

How can you not love it..?
Personally, however, I find that not only does the style really work with the aim of the series, it allows Scioli as both writer and artist to place all of his toys across the drawing board, and just go wild with the colours, interactions and the stupidly fun lettering touches, from the titles to the ID cards to explosions and EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

..EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...
I applauded the production of the book last issue as well, but it is nice to see Chris Mowry's work still shaping the final product. I am not a gigantic fan of the exclusive Liefeld and Tyndale covers, but the Ed Piskor Cobra heavy one and the two Scioli versions are perfectly in keep with the tone and content of the book (thumbnail: Retail Incentive cover by Scioli).
Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead
If you're not on board with Transformers vs G.I. Joe by now, I'd recommend to stop trying. This comic is clearly not for you, and by no fault of the readership. It is doing what it does unapologetically, and received warm-heartedly by many for very good reasons, and it's little to do with the actual lore of the franchises involved in the crossover, if only maybe as reference material and gags. And Scioli and Barber are clearly having barrels of fun with it.

Pictured: Barber and/or Scioli
What is particularly enjoyable, is that after the rollercoaster up a snake with wings in its nose that is the story, the two creators give themselves almost the same amount of space to talk about what went into the creation of the issue, page by page, panel by panel, deconstructing the whole frame and proving just how not seriously this is to be taken - but also how to, if so one wished. I will stop warning readers about this by next issue, but enjoy some green mean killing machines in #2 for now.
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by hinomars19 Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:39 pm
This comic looks like a nice dose of marmite-you either love it or hate it! It's not trying to be agnostic or please everyone. If you hate it, you're not gonna discuss it or try to disect or argue it, and if you love it, you'll clearly have a blast. If I could find comics in my area, I'd probably get into this series for a nice bit of Brain down time!
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IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe #3 Full Preview
Posted by Va'al Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:36 am
Transformers VS G.I. JOE #3
Tom Scioli & John Barber (w) • Scioli (a & c)
CYBERTRON INFESTED! The Transformers’ homeworld is crawling with tiny green invaders from the planet Earth—the G.I. JOE team! Also this issue—Funeral for a Friend. Many AUTOBOTS and G.I. JOE soldiers have fallen in the line of duty—but you've never seen a send-off like this!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
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WAKE THE DEAD!!! In 3-D!!!
Not actually in 3-D—but you will not believe your eyes! Guaranteed!
The biggest thing ever gets bigger!
Interconnected Variant Cover by Tom Scioli!
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Optimizzy Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:15 am
I'm sure there are people who do...for whatever reason, but it is, in a word, ugly.
I guess it has nostalgic value...it reminds me of the pictures I drew in 5th grade.
While I love G1 I also love new innovations and takes on the characters.
I prefer official Hasbro releases of stuff for the most part
I'm not a huge fan of Japanese original Transformers media or designs.
It's easier for me to say which are my LEAST favorite toy lines: Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise.
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by dragons Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:46 am
Optimizzy wrote:oh man. I just cant like this art. sorry.
I'm sure there are people who do...for whatever reason, but it is, in a word, ugly.
I guess it has nostalgic value...it reminds me of the pictures I drew in 5th grade.
I was
Thinking I was only one don't like this style
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Blozor Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:10 am
However, why is Starscream like Underbase sized?
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Darth Jumpy Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:51 am
Flashwave wrote:For that matter, why is the purple cyclops calling himself SOUNDwave
He isn't. Soundwave died in the first issue. Shockwave is avenging his death.
I still do not like the art style, but I do think the comic captures some of the goofiness and bizarreness of the cartoon series.
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by timcourtois Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:30 pm
That's not to say that there's anything wrong with those who just don't like it. But there may be some of you for whom giving the book a read may actually change how you feel.
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by morphobots Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:44 pm
Siger wrote:What the hell is up with the size? If Starscream transformed, he'd be 20x bigger than those jets falling into the sea. Same goes for Soundwave, they are all Godzilla sized?
Well, it's not like scale has ever mattered in this hobby. That being said . . .
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Sneak Peek - IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe #4 iTunes Preview
Posted by Va'al Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:34 pm
THE WAR AT HOME! But whose home—and whose war?! Interstellar war has never been so cosmic! The G.I. JOE team faces the TRANSFORMERS—on Earth and Cybertron. Plus—just in time for Halloween… meet the OCTOBER GUARD!
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IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe #4 Full Preview
Posted by Va'al Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:52 am
Transformers VS G.I. JOE #4
Tom Scioli & John Barber (w) • Scioli (a & c)
THE WAR AT HOME! But whose home—and whose war?! Interstellar war has never been so cosmic! The G.I. JOE team faces the TRANSFORMERS—on Earth and Cybertron. Plus—just in time for Halloween… meet the OCTOBER GUARD!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet points:
The biggest crossover the cosmos has ever faced JUST KEEPS GETTING BIGGER!!!
Ask your retailer about the Tom Scioli connecting variant cover! Connects with the variants for #2 & #3 creating one big piece!
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Re: IDW Transformers vs. G.I. Joe Ongoing Thread
Posted by Va'al Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:49 pm
I'm just a bit stuck with connection issues and time.
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Escalation: Tom Scioli And John Barber On ‘Transformers vs. G.I. Joe’ Volume 1
Posted by Va'al Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:26 am
ComicsAlliance: The amazing thing about Transformers vs. G.I. Joe for me as a reader is that it doesn’t feel like it should exist, and I mean that in the best way possible. It has this feeling that there’s no way this book should’ve been approved, because it’s so wild, raw and energetic. How did you get that feeling to come across in this comic?
Tom Scioli: I don’t know how you would get to that point with any kind of comic. Just from my perspective, I’ve been doing comics for such a long time and in such a way that’s very different from the normal career path for comics, so I don’t know how you replicate that. I don’t know how many other people are out there that would be able to have that mix of discipline and self-destructive chaotic impulse to get that. I don’t know, John? Do you have any perspective?
John Barber: To one degree or another, when you’re working on something that’s company-owned, you have to forget about that when you’re working on it, and I think that degree varies. The whole idea was to make something kind of weird, that went out the window at some point. There was probably a minute early on where Michael Kelly, the guy we work with at Hasbro as their Director of Global Publishing, called and he was like, “This isn’t exactly what we talked about.” He loves the book, but at some point, the idea was going to be safer. It’s not like there’s anything unsafe about this, either, but you want to be able to point at it and say “here are these two things that we put together to make one thing,” and I don’t think you can do that with our book. I think that’s what makes it interesting.
TS: I didn’t really know how it was going to turn out either. It’s a project where it’s like “yeah, what would this thing be?” I know that when we first talked about in the beginning, we had that very basic idea of a Jack Kirby take on this sort of thing, but when you sit down to actually make it, all these other opportunities open up. All these other creative things take over, and it outgrows that initial idea. But then it sort of comes back to it. Early on, I thought I wanted to do something more serious than just a straight Jack Kirby rip-roaring adventure, but then it turned into that kind of rip-roaring adventure.
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CA: Along those same lines, I’m a much bigger fan of Joe than Transformers, so most of the Transformers comics that I’ve read have been crossovers with G.I. Joe, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen one that was structured like this, with the Joes going to Cybertron. Was that just an obvious thing that you’d never seen?
JB: That was there from the beginning. 100% of this comic is Tom at this point, and I don’t know what I’m doing anymore. I expect that one day, Tom will just stop emailing me.
TS: [Laughs] I’ll just send you the finish comic.
JB: Right. But every other Transformers/G.I. Joe comic, at least every one that I read, tried to drag Transformers to a realistic level and throw that into the G.I. Joe world. I thought the idea of blowing up G.I. Joe and making them science-fiction, having them live in the Transformers’ world, was there. If anything, Cybertron was the one thing I really wanted to do. But it obviously came out much cooler in the comic than I would’ve thought of.
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Full preview for Transformers vs G.I. JOE #5
Posted by william-james88 Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:11 am
Transformers vs G.I. JOE #5
Tom Scioli & John Barber (w) • Scioli (a & c)
IT GETS CRAZIER! The biggest space battle ever grows to universal proportions! Will the G.I. JOE team and the AUTOBOTS make peace—before COBRA and the DECEPTICONS end the war… the bad way?!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
It should be shipping on February 11th.





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