SlyTF1 wrote:He was outsmarted by a human in the first movie.
I said he was powerful, not intelligent.
SlyTF1 wrote:Plus, in ROTF, he survived a bombardment of tanks to his face.
I'm too lazy to go dig up my old copy of ROTF , but I remember Mixmaster also took a couple of direct hits from a tank and survived--the only time a tank round killed a Decepticon in ROTF was when it hit some nameless grunt. Those tank rounds probably aren't as powerful as the F-22s' AGM barrages from TF1.
In ROTF, it took an air raid to take out all the Decepticons in the area.
But all that is irrelevant.
The thing is, like I said, Bay and the writers wanted to make OP more badass after viewers complained about him looking weak in TF1, so they portrayed OP as much more powerful fighter in ROTF compared to TF1. Megatron HAD to get owned by OP in order to highlight that.
Sly, this really isn't getting us anywhere, and to engage in an unnecessary debate is a waste of both your time and mine. I say it's an "unnecessary debate" because this thread is about whether Megatron should return in TF4, not whether he's worthy of being called the epitome of strength.
Why don't we just agree to disagree on this, and end this discussion?