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Far too lanky looking and the fists are too big, pass from me, sticking with iGears personally.

I like this figure. unlike iGear's, this one deals the the bowed arm better.

And unlike X, I think both Cosmos and Swerve are perfect for Classics. I'll probably repaint the iGear versions at some point as Shattered Glass characters.

all my Classics Minibots are Legends size. I'll be glad to get these two as well.

Swerve looks good, but I still might go with the 3rd party figure with the swappable face.

I love those oversized molded in hands. Least they look a little oversized to me. I'll pick him up for sure. Great alt mode to.

i like this and swerve and they might be the first ones of this size i'll buy! They will probably end up hanging around on metroplex rather than be displayed with my classics (in spite of their size I need a couple of new display cabinets).

Also they might suffer from size envy when they spot powerglide and seaspray.

who is Payload suppose to be?

mooncake623 wrote:who is Payload suppose to be?

The Autobot Micromaster combiner, Blast Master. He formed the back-half of the shuttle mode.

Now that I think about it, turning old Micromasters into these little Targetmaster buddies is actually a pretty neat idea. Half-hoping the listings we uncovered before (there was a Thundercracker and a Gears in there, if my memeory is correct) is true, and we get more Legends figures.

Mindmaster wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:who is Payload suppose to be?

The Autobot Micromaster combiner, Blast Master. He formed the back-half of the shuttle mode.

Now that I think about it, turning old Micromasters into these little Targetmaster buddies is actually a pretty neat idea. Half-hoping the listings we uncovered before (there was a Thundercracker and a Gears in there, if my memeory is correct) is true, and we get more Legends figures.

Oh that's pretty cool. But why did they use the name payload? doing a tfwiki search did not help at all. Payload seems to be a bunch of different characters in different continuities. Also how is he related to Cosmos? Both spaceships?

mooncake623 wrote:But why did they use the name payload?

Probably because Hasbro lost the trademark of "Blast Master", and, uninterested in the marketability of the aforementioned name, just slapped "Payload" on him, since that name appears more frequently and generally sounds cooler than Blast Master.

Also how is he related to Cosmos? Both spaceships?

Pretty much, yeah.

Mindmaster wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:But why did they use the name payload?

Probably because Hasbro lost the trademark of "Blast Master", and, uninterested in the marketability of the aforementioned name, just slapped "Payload" on him, since that name appears more frequently and generally sounds cooler than Blast Master.

Also how is he related to Cosmos? Both spaceships?

Pretty much, yeah.

All sounds like nonsense to me. After all Swerve comes with Flanker, who is somehow linked to Sky High on the wiki entry relating to this toy instead of the actual micromaster Flanker, who's own page isn't clear as to whether he's an Autobot or Decepticon. Top all that off with what exactly links Payload specifically to Blast Master and not Phaser and it all sounds loopy to me.

IIRC Payload was also the name of the GI Joe who flew their space shuttle.


edit: had a thought, will the Japanese version be called Pay-Loads?

Oh, and Payload is able to "combine" with Cosmos in vehicle mode.

craggy wrote:IIRC Payload was also the name of the GI Joe who flew their space shuttle.


edit: had a thought, will the Japanese version be called Pay-Loads?

I think it will be called Pay-Roads.

FellintoOblivion wrote:

craggy wrote:IIRC Payload was also the name of the GI Joe who flew their space shuttle.


edit: had a thought, will the Japanese version be called Pay-Loads?

I think it will be called Pay-Roads.

I don't understand this. Could you please explain?

craggy wrote:

FellintoOblivion wrote:

craggy wrote:IIRC Payload was also the name of the GI Joe who flew their space shuttle.


edit: had a thought, will the Japanese version be called Pay-Loads?

I think it will be called Pay-Roads.

I don't understand this. Could you please explain?

I think he missed the joke of "Pay Loads" to get him. Japanese has no distinction between "l" and "r" sounds, it falls somewhere inbetween. For simplicity's sake the "r" is used for transliteration, except for loanwords.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

craggy wrote:

FellintoOblivion wrote:

craggy wrote:IIRC Payload was also the name of the GI Joe who flew their space shuttle.


edit: had a thought, will the Japanese version be called Pay-Loads?

I think it will be called Pay-Roads.

I don't understand this. Could you please explain?

I think he missed the joke of "Pay Loads" to get him. Japanese has no distinction between "l" and "r" sounds, it falls somewhere inbetween. For simplicity's sake the "r" is used for transliteration, except for loanwords.

that sounds...and forgive me if I'm being a little judgemental here...but it sounds, a teeny tiny terribly bit like he's making fun of the way people from another culture speak our language (well, my language, anyway). I'm sure this is fine though cause Fell probably speaks much better Japanese than any Japanese person speaks English. Probably.

Holy ****! Someone made fun of something on the internet. Someone page the news crew.

I so sowwy.

In any case, current TakaraTomy releases (excluding Masterpieces) use the US/Hasbro names so he'll still be called Payload in Japanese (ペイロード Peirōdo). Of note is that he's actually based on Micromaster Blast Master, so there's a possibility he'll be called that if TakaraTomy catches on.

This is an awesome figure.

Looks pretty cool to me. While the 3p one is much nicer, cost is gonna limit me to this one.