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Darth Maul: A Sith Lord who is one of the greatest duelists, has some power of the Force, and has somewhat mastered his emotions somewhat.

Strengths: The Force
Can Force Run, Jump, Push ,Pull, Invisiblity(?)
Lightsaber Staff: Can do all those ultra cool moves and is one heck of a mean fighter with it

Weaknesses: Over-confidence is a big one. Possibly inexperiance due to youth also.

Starscream: A Decepticon who is experianced in battle. He is a scientist, but first and foremost is Megatron's second in command. He has gotten to that position by being ruthless and being very good at what he does.

Strengths: Can fly and is extemely fast in the air.
He also is very smart, and will use that to try and trick his enemies. He also has null rays which he has developed as weapons.

Weakness: Is extremely arrogant, over-confident and impatient, many times to the point of his detriment. Will rush a plan just for a chance to brag about it, and sometimes will not think about the possible consequences of his actions until its too late. He also tends to be a coward, and will possibly leave if intimidated enough.

So which one of these guys could win?

I'd much rather have them join forces and over throw Palpatine and Megatron together

Starscream, just because he is a big freak'n tobot and and stand back and blast Maul.

I think Maul would be StarScreams Head/Target/Power- master. But to be ahonest, Maul FTW!

Well Screamer is big, fast, has heavy armor, expierinced, has two big f***ing guns and well is big.

Sreamer shots Darth Maul and he desintegrates.

I'm givin to the big honkin' robot.

light sabre to the face

He'd never get close enough.

No ammount of razzle-dazzle cirque-du-soleil lightsabering can come close to even mildly amusing Starscream.

snake eyes beat starscream in the gi joe crossovers. i think maul has a chance, but if starscream takes to the air its all over. mauls saber, combined with him using the force to sense exactly where andhow to hit screamer could to alot of damage. if the fight was in a city or jungle maul might do ok.

he can hide, and he can, to a limited degree, sense where starscream is and what hes going to do. hiding in a building or in a tree and jumping out to attack starscreams face with his saber could be devastating. throwing objects at starscream with the force is good misdirection, and depending on just how good he is, he can throw his saber (unignited) at starscream, who probably wont see it comming, and activate it with the force just before impact, turning it into a pretty effective spear.

most of starscreams skill is in the air. take that away and hes a good warrior, but hes not as good as alot of others. so im not really sure. if maul can damage starscreams wing and keep him from flying he has a pretty decent chance, but is screamer get airborne there isnt alot maul can do, other than maybe slightly alter starscreams flightpath with the force, and i dont know that he could do that. in a fight to the death though starscream would win, his spark is immortal.

Also, Starscream can end this quickly by destroying Maul's saber. Not to mention weapons like his cluster bombs.
An unactivated saber throw would very likely result in the former, unless executed at very close range. Transformer reflexes should never be underestimated (though still somewhat inferior to precog-based ones; a possible advantage to Maul were he more skilled), even in Starscream's case.

JEDI ALCHEMIST wrote:I think Maul would be StarScreams Head/Target/Power- master. But to be ahonest, Maul FTW!

No, I see Maul being more suited to Soundwave.

Starscream and Darth Malak would be a much more likely combination; treacherous, short-sighted,2-dimensional...

Prince Xizor might also work on the other hand: treacherous, cold-blooded, vain...

Kind of depends on how you think of Starscream.

If we're talking Sith/transformer target/power/head master things, which Sith would Megs take on?

HardHead wrote:If we're talking Sith/transformer target/power/head master things, which Sith would Megs take on?

I would imagine Darth Sidious, as he is probably one of the most powerful and Darth Maul is still loyal to him. So he would be keeping Starscream from betraying him with Maul.

yeah, megatron vs sidious. i wonder how well force lightning would work on a transformer.

unique_username wrote:yeah, megatron vs sidious. i wonder how well force lightning would work on a transformer.

In the games whenever I use it, it seems to do major damage to droids. But I don't know whether or not Transformers are droids, as they seem to be different. But I could be wrong.

Zombie Starscream wrote:Darth Maul: A Sith Lord who is one of the greatest duelists, has some power of the Force, and has somewhat mastered his emotions somewhat.

Strengths: The Force
Can Force Run, Jump, Push ,Pull, Invisiblity(?)
Lightsaber Staff: Can do all those ultra cool moves and is one heck of a mean fighter with it

Weaknesses: Over-confidence is a big one. Possibly inexperiance due to youth also.

Starscream: A Decepticon who is experianced in battle. He is a scientist, but first and foremost is Megatron's second in command. He has gotten to that position by being ruthless and being very good at what he does.

Strengths: Can fly and is extemely fast in the air.
He also is very smart, and will use that to try and trick his enemies. He also has null rays which he has developed as weapons.

Weakness: Is extremely arrogant, over-confident and impatient, many times to the point of his detriment. Will rush a plan just for a chance to brag about it, and sometimes will not think about the possible consequences of his actions until its too late. He also tends to be a coward, and will possibly leave if intimidated enough.

So which one of these guys could win?

Starscream because he is bigger,taller and smarter than Maul.

But remember, Lightsabers can reflect laserbeams.

Also, does the mind trick work on Screamer? Can Maul use the Force push/pull to knock Screamer off balance? He could use it to throw objects at Screamer and close in while he does. Jump up on his chest and start slicing. Can the Lightsaber slice through TF armour easily? Maul has increadibly fast reflexes.

More information is needed. This fight is not as clear cut as it first appears.

Insurgent wrote:But remember, Lightsabers can reflect laserbeams.

Also, does the mind trick work on Screamer? Can Maul use the Force push/pull to knock Screamer off balance? He could use it to throw objects at Screamer and close in while he does. Jump up on his chest and start slicing. Can the Lightsaber slice through TF armour easily? Maul has increadibly fast reflexes.

More information is needed. This fight is not as clear cut as it first appears.

Starscream can step on him and Maul will be flat as a pancake.

The mind trick can partly work on Screamer, depending on what suggestion Maul is trying to use. Maul cannot mind-trick Starscream into just standing there to let him hack him. But some suggestions would work.

Yes, Maul could use the Force with Screamer, up to a certain distance.

Maul's lightsaber can slice through a Tf's armour, but it takes a bit of time just like in the movies when they cut through the durosteel doors. But it can be done.

Maul has incredible reflexes, but so does Screamer.

Gingy650 wrote:

Insurgent wrote:But remember, Lightsabers can reflect laserbeams.

Also, does the mind trick work on Screamer? Can Maul use the Force push/pull to knock Screamer off balance? He could use it to throw objects at Screamer and close in while he does. Jump up on his chest and start slicing. Can the Lightsaber slice through TF armour easily? Maul has increadibly fast reflexes.

More information is needed. This fight is not as clear cut as it first appears.

Starscream can step on him and Maul will be flat as a pancake.

Maul can force push SS foot away from him.

Gingy650 wrote:

Insurgent wrote:But remember, Lightsabers can reflect laserbeams.

Also, does the mind trick work on Screamer? Can Maul use the Force push/pull to knock Screamer off balance? He could use it to throw objects at Screamer and close in while he does. Jump up on his chest and start slicing. Can the Lightsaber slice through TF armour easily? Maul has increadibly fast reflexes.

More information is needed. This fight is not as clear cut as it first appears.

Starscream can step on him and Maul will be flat as a pancake.

Depends on what kind of surface they're on. Mace Windu got hit by a gigantic hammer-thing, but only got pushed into the ground, because they were on soft dirt. Plus, I think he used the Force as help.

Maul, of course, could just Force Starscream's cannons off, then his arms, then his head. If Maul plays his cards right, he may never even have to turn his saber on.

Dead Metal wrote:Well Screamer is big, fast, has heavy armor, expierinced, has two big f***ing guns and well is big.

Sreamer shots Darth Maul and he desintegrates.

Same here!

Shockwave needs a Sith partner also, but I doubt if anybody would want to be a one eyed head for him. I assume it would be a good Target Master Combo for Shockwave........

Well, some siths can tear SUNS in half, so Starscream wouldn't be a problem to an experienced force-user, the question is, how good is Maul in the Force-tricks. But as I know Screamer, he would trick Maul to believe that Scream is his slave, then when Maul turns away, Starscream would easily shot him to ash.

It's possible that DM could kill S with the Force and his double red light saber.

S is a lot more experienced in battle and in other ways. I imagine he could pretend to surrender and then shoot DM with a secret weapon in his body.

S wins.