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News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Fri May 25, 2012 2:53 pm

scaling Sideswipe's car mode to fit the Prime trailer surely makes a mockery of the "scaling robot modes" idea, non?

by **Skullcrunchberries** » Fri May 25, 2012 4:03 pm

Loving both of those Tokyo Toy Show exclusives. Depending on price, they're a definite buy.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Fri May 25, 2012 4:26 pm

Breakdown still looks amazing.

..can someone explain what Steve's weapon turns into?

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Fri May 25, 2012 4:46 pm

Hoitytoity wrote:Loving both of those Tokyo Toy Show exclusives. Depending on price, they're a definite buy.

About 100.00 each, already sold out at BBTS. TFsource still has United Black OP avaialable. Captured Prey still has both.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri May 25, 2012 5:01 pm

Va'al wrote:Breakdown still looks amazing.

..can someone explain what Steve's weapon turns into?

"Steve"? If you're referring to the Arms Microns:

Zamu (Breakdown): Rhinoceros
Gra (Knock Out): fiddler crab
Noji (Vehicon): wild boar (the triangular piece is his nose)

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Fri May 25, 2012 5:01 pm

Lucky Draw Microns and I'll flip.

by **orangeitis** » Fri May 25, 2012 5:46 pm

Flux Convoy wrote:Way too small. No MP figure should be that small. If he's just the right size then Rodimus is wildly out of scale. Sideswipe should be about chest level with Prime.

Of course Rodimus is way out of scale. And Grimlock. And Megatron. The decision to make the robot modes of MPs in-scale with each other came after they made MP Hot Rod.

Flux Convoy wrote:So what exactly are you trying to say. Rodimus isn't radically out of scale? A MP Sideswipe SHOULD be as small as a voyager? You can't possibly tell me that's an acceptable size for the money and believe it. If that's the case, we already got Alternators/BT Sideswipe to fill that gap. I don't need Sideswipe to fit in the GD trailer that I'm storing in the first place. What I need in such a figure is a nicely sized representation of him that boils down all the essentials into one good toy. Also, bear in mind how often that official scale guide is rendered moot in the show.

Alt/BT Sideswipe isn't G1 accurate. And if you're THAT concerned about the price tag, wait till MP-12's domestic release for like $35-40.

I don't get how you think that just because the cartoon had so many inaccuracies, the toys should too. Wouldn't it be great if there could at least be some effort to correct the animation errors through some way, even if we're never allowed to remake the G1 cartoon?

craggy wrote:scaling Sideswipe's car mode to fit the Prime trailer surely makes a mockery of the "scaling robot modes" idea, non?

I'm pretty sure that Sideswipe's car mode just happened to be the right scale for it, rather than them trying to scale both modes just right.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:00 pm

Thanks JelZe, Steve is the Vehicon.
A boar you say, hm?

by **Doubledealer93** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:54 pm

that breakdown is perfect. =P~

News Credits: 2 · by **Twitchythe3rd** » Fri May 25, 2012 7:32 pm

Breakdown and Steve the Vehicon are both wanted.

Someone find me a Bumblebee. We need to sacrifice it to the Toy Release Gods. Surely that will appease them.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Fri May 25, 2012 9:37 pm

You know what? I give up trying to discern who MP-13 is. I'm just going to say this; MP-13 is MP-13. There we go! Now I won't have a headache trying to look at the stupid silhouette. >:oP

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri May 25, 2012 11:58 pm

Flux Convoy wrote:So what exactly are you trying to say. Rodimus isn't radically out of scale?

As orangeitis said, the decision to make the MPs in scale with each otehr came after the MP Rodimus Convoy toy was made. Though, As Rodicmus Convoy, the toy IS in scale since both Convoy and Rodimus Convoy were the same height. It's only as Hot Rodimus that he's out of scale.

Flux Convoy wrote:A MP Sideswipe SHOULD be as small as a voyager?

It is when they're trying for show-accurate sizes.

Flux Convoy wrote:You can't possibly tell me that's an acceptable size for the money and believe it.

The size is fine. It's the price that's outrageous.

Flux Convoy wrote:If that's the case, we already got Alternators/BT Sideswipe to fill that gap.

He's not G1-accurate, nor does he fit in the Masterpiece toyline.

Flux Convoy wrote:I don't need Sideswipe to fit in the GD trailer that I'm storing in the first place. What I need in such a figure is a nicely sized representation of him that boils down all the essentials into one good toy.

If you don't want it, don't buy it.

Flux Convoy wrote:Also, bear in mind how often that official scale guide is rendered moot in the show.

See image above.

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Joetx wrote:Where is the Scale Guide from, Sabrblade?

The Ark book.

News Credits: 8 · by **LiKwid** » Sat May 26, 2012 12:47 am

Need me some AM Breakdown and some Steves to go with it... I wonder if breakdown will have his Robo eye patch?

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Sat May 26, 2012 1:03 am

Sabrblade, you and I are just going to have to agree to disagree on what we feel this release should be.

by **orangeitis** » Sat May 26, 2012 1:09 am

Sabrblade wrote:

Holy derp, Brawn's head plate is sliding off his shoulders! :shock:

It's funny how some mistransformations could actually be considered show-accurate. If/when we get an MP Brawn, he should be able to do that.

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Sat May 26, 2012 5:50 am

Breakdown, you look like something that will fit nicely in my collection. Let's have coffee sometime.

by **Hotrodimust** » Sat May 26, 2012 8:08 am

Has anyone noticed that the front of knock out in car mode is different and I'm not just talking about the AM port the whole tip of the hood and lights look different. I just custom painted this guy and the space from the end of the light to the wheel well isn't that big and the hood hangs further past his waist in robot mode. I'm not home to compair but I'm pretty sure

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat May 26, 2012 8:15 am

Hotrodimust wrote:Has anyone noticed that the front of knock out in car mode is different and I'm not just talking about the AM port the whole tip of the hood and lights look different. I just custom painted this guy and the space from the end of the light to the wheel well isn't that big and the hood hangs further past his waist in robot mode. I'm not home to compair but I'm pretty sure

Might be a another Micron-gimmick-based remold of some sort.

by **Hotrodimust** » Sat May 26, 2012 8:45 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:Has anyone noticed that the front of knock out in car mode is different and I'm not just talking about the AM port the whole tip of the hood and lights look different. I just custom painted this guy and the space from the end of the light to the wheel well isn't that big and the hood hangs further past his waist in robot mode. I'm not home to compair but I'm pretty sure
Might be a another Micron-gimmick-based remold of some sort.

Ya maybe when I get home I'm gonna check it out because if it's different I'm gonna have to get this version to. Also the jet vehicon looks like they just changed the arms and leg panel to make it a jet. The whole center still looks like a car. But breakdown looks amazing I'm so glad I pre-ordered him

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat May 26, 2012 9:57 am

...which jet vehicon?

I only see the car version.
Am I missing an image?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat May 26, 2012 10:06 am

Va'al wrote:...which jet vehicon?

I only see the car version.
Am I missing an image?

The only one we've ever seen. It's not pictured here. He's referring to images of it that we saw at a previous time.

by **Hotrodimust** » Sat May 26, 2012 11:17 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Va'al wrote:...which jet vehicon?

I only see the car version.
Am I missing an image?
The only one we've ever seen. It's not pictured here. He's referring to images of it that we saw at a previous time.

Ya they one I'm talking about is not pictured and knock out is the same I guess the shiny paint job made it look different

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Sat May 26, 2012 12:24 pm

I am pleased to see that MP-13 is most likely Soundwave. I don't have any complaints with MP-12. The scale doesn't bother me. I am glad that Takara is keeping the scale of the vehicles consistent. To me, that is more important. The scale difference between Optimus and Sideswipe in robot form is easier for me to accept than to have a Lamborghini oversized compared to Optimus's cab. I can't stand putting MP Hotrod (in alt mode) next to MP 10 (in alt mode) because the scale difference is very noticeable.

by **ZarkonSpacePirateGod** » Sat May 26, 2012 5:12 pm

looks cool definitely soundwave!

News Credits: 3 · by **Midnight_Fox** » Sun May 27, 2012 9:26 pm

Hotrodimust wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Va'al wrote:...which jet vehicon?

I only see the car version.
Am I missing an image?
The only one we've ever seen. It's not pictured here. He's referring to images of it that we saw at a previous time.

Ya they one I'm talking about is not pictured and knock out is the same I guess the shiny paint job made it look different

I really wish they'd let us know if the jet Vehicon is being released here, I need to know how many Takara versions to order...