The Energon Pub

by **Joker'sRequiem** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:17 am

Best: Beast Wars. Likely to remain so for me. The reason I'm on this site is because of this series.

In-Between:
Animated
G1
Armada
RID
Beast Machines
Energon

Worst: Cybertron
I disliked this more than Energon. It just seemed so....off to me. And the forced continuity with A/E didn't help. Gave me some great toys, but I honestly could have done without the cartoon...

Under Consideration: TF: Prime. For me, only having 5 episodes to view makes ranking it anywhere slightly pre-mature.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:55 am

Joker'sRequiem wrote:Worst: Cybertron
I disliked this more than Energon. It just seemed so....off to me. And the forced continuity with A/E didn't help. Gave me some great toys, but I honestly could have done without the cartoon...

Really? Cuz it seemed like that, this time around, the writers actually took the time to figure out what they were doing with this one (unlike the disastrous dubs of Armada and Energon) and actually tried to improve on what they were given to work with. This one seemed the most competently done of the Unicron Trilogy series with them actually trying (and in several cases succeeding) to fix some of the weirdness of the original Japanese version.

Still, however, yes, it was a mistake to try and force it in with its two predecessors. I think it works best to view Cybertron as its own series to get the most enjoyment out of it (despite what official canon says).

Joker'sRequiem wrote:Under Consideration: TF: Prime. For me, only having 5 episodes to view makes ranking it anywhere slightly pre-mature.

Amen to that. 5 out of 26+ episodes just doesn't do a series justice.

by **Joker'sRequiem** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:05 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Really? Cuz it seemed like that, this time around, the writers actually took the time to figure out what they were doing with this one (unlike the disastrous dubs of Armada and Energon) and actually tried to improve on what they were given to work with. This one seemed the most competently done of the Unicron Trilogy series with them actually trying (and in several cases succeeding) to fix some of the weirdness of the original Japanese version.

Still, however, yes, it was a mistake to try and force it in with its two predecessors. I think it works best to view Cybertron as its own series to get the most enjoyment out of it (despite what official canon says).

Honestly I could put Energon right next to Cybertron. I did feel the writing was better, I just didn't like the gimic (Cyber Planet Keys) and aside from Gary Chalk and Paul Dobson I didn't care for the voice acting. The main thing, though, was the forced continuity. I hated Landmine going from the somewhat sizeable Energon version to his downsized Cybertron version (which is why I use them as separate characters) or Override being a woman in the dub, but (do to being male in the Japanese version) having a less than feminine toy (which I use as a male character anyway). Although Cybertron does get redeemed for having Primus (the toy more so than in the show). I guess having a bit more time to think it over, I'll at least move Energon into a tie with Cybertron. And on a good day I'll give Cybertron the benefit of the doubt.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:43 pm

Joker'sRequiem wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Really? Cuz it seemed like that, this time around, the writers actually took the time to figure out what they were doing with this one (unlike the disastrous dubs of Armada and Energon) and actually tried to improve on what they were given to work with. This one seemed the most competently done of the Unicron Trilogy series with them actually trying (and in several cases succeeding) to fix some of the weirdness of the original Japanese version.

Still, however, yes, it was a mistake to try and force it in with its two predecessors. I think it works best to view Cybertron as its own series to get the most enjoyment out of it (despite what official canon says).

Honestly I could put Energon right next to Cybertron. I did feel the writing was better, I just didn't like the gimic (Cyber Planet Keys) and aside from Gary Chalk and Paul Dobson I didn't care for the voice acting. The main thing, though, was the forced continuity. I hated Landmine going from the somewhat sizeable Energon version to his downsized Cybertron version (which is why I use them as separate characters) or Override being a woman in the dub, but (do to being male in the Japanese version) having a less than feminine toy (which I use as a male character anyway). Although Cybertron does get redeemed for having Primus (the toy more so than in the show). I guess having a bit more time to think it over, I'll at least move Energon into a tie with Cybertron. And on a good day I'll give Cybertron the benefit of the doubt.

I'd also recommend watching Galaxy Force (Japanese Cybertron) subbed in English. It lacks any of the forced retcon stuff with Micron Densetsu and Super Link (it wasn't retconned in with them until after it was completed), but doesn't have any of the fixes made by its dub (i.e. - Burning Justice just happens without explanation, and stock footage galore is more noticeable).

Still, it is the the original, unaltered version (I myself still have to watch it too, I've only seen the Cybertron dub).

by **Red 50** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:57 pm

So, not actually into topic, but I found this little Flash of one of my FAVOURITE Transformers shows. Be warned, it might be hilarious.

'Cause it sure was for me...

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs37/f/2008/268/3/5/G1_Animated_Flash_by_TM2DB.swf

by **Scourgescream** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:37 pm

Making my way through the shows. So far, best to worst

G1
Beast Wars
Headmasters
Victory
S.M.G.F
Armada
Beast Machines
R.I.D

I've enjoyed the 6 eps of TF:Prime a lot but it is too soon to fairly judge

by **JetOptimus23** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:15 pm

Red 50 wrote:So, not actually into topic, but I found this little Flash of one of my FAVOURITE Transformers shows. Be warned, it might be hilarious.

'Cause it sure was for me...

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs37/f/2008/268/3/5/G1_Animated_Flash_by_TM2DB.swf

All I have to say is...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! I cant even read Kanji, and i laughed so hard my spleen imploded.

News Credits: 4 · by **Slashercon** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:50 pm

From favorite to worst

All:
G1
TF:Prime TAS
TFA
Beast Wars
Beast Machines
TF:Cybertron
TF:Armada and Energon. (I really don't know which is worst. Energon is simply too boring that I haven't even watched past episode 4, RID is also boring as I haven't made it past the FIRST episode, and Armada is kinda okay, but Carlos is the worst thing to be spawned in the TF universe. He's so annoying that he brings Chip from G1 to a kingly/presidential level.)

And now that i've watched "fully":
G1
TFA
Beast Wars
Beast Machines
TF:Cybertron
TF:Armada

Note: This is strictly MY opinion.

by **ACIDSTORM** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:44 am

Best to worst:

G1- because it's the original and kicks ass.
Beast wars-the show I grew up on , great characters and storylines.
TFA-Although I didn't really like the character designs I must admit the storylines (Except those left open) were awesome .
Beast machines-was ok
RID- was good at first but too many characters , and the stories soon got boring.
The unicron trilogy- I'm not saying it wqas bad but wasn't brilliant either, although i am thankful the minicons were introduced.great toys from armada too.

Haven't watched any TF prime yet, is it any good ? I just haven't had time to sit down and watch it

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:27 am

Scourgescream wrote:Making my way through the shows. So far, best to worst

G1
Beast Wars
Headmasters
Victory
S.M.G.F
Armada
Beast Machines
R.I.D

I've enjoyed the 6 eps of TF:Prime a lot but it is too soon to fairly judge

Slashercon wrote:From favorite to worst

All:
G1
TF:Prime TAS
TFA
Beast Wars
Beast Machines
TF:Cybertron
TF:Armada and Energon. (I really don't know which is worst. Energon is simply too boring that I haven't even watched past episode 4, RID is also boring as I haven't made it past the FIRST episode, and Armada is kinda okay, but Carlos is the worst thing to be spawned in the TF universe. He's so annoying that he brings Chip from G1 to a kingly/presidential level.)

And now that i've watched "fully":
G1
TFA
Beast Wars
Beast Machines
TF:Cybertron
TF:Armada

Note: This is strictly MY opinion.

ACIDSTORM wrote:Best to worst:

G1- because it's the original and kicks ass.
Beast wars-the show I grew up on , great characters and storylines.
TFA-Although I didn't really like the character designs I must admit the storylines (Except those left open) were awesome .
Beast machines-was ok
RID- was good at first but too many characters , and the stories soon got boring.
The unicron trilogy- I'm not saying it wqas bad but wasn't brilliant either, although i am thankful the minicons were introduced.great toys from armada too.

Haven't watched any TF prime yet, is it any good ? I just haven't had time to sit down and watch it

The three above quoted posts are more suited for a different thread instead of this one, since they do more of what that thread asks of than what this one does.

by **zenosaurus_x** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:07 pm

Red 50 wrote:So, not actually into topic, but I found this little Flash of one of my FAVOURITE Transformers shows. Be warned, it might be hilarious.

'Cause it sure was for me...

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs37/f/2008/268/3/5/G1_Animated_Flash_by_TM2DB.swf

HAHA! That was sweet, not quiiiite making me laugh (except at one part with the Insecticon) but the whole vid was just awesome.

As far as annoying humans go, I never found Chip annoying, though I DESPISED Kicker....I haven't seen Armada yet though so I have no idea how Carlos is.

by **prowl123** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:32 pm

Red 50 wrote:So, not actually into topic, but I found this little Flash of one of my FAVOURITE Transformers shows. Be warned, it might be hilarious.

'Cause it sure was for me...

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs37/f/2008/268/3/5/G1_Animated_Flash_by_TM2DB.swf

That was hilarious! I love how Starscream got his balls shot off, and the Pirates of the Carribean music started playing at the end.

by **dinojack86** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:22 pm

I had watched G1 every now and then but Beast Wars is what really pulled me in. So yes- most definitely Beast Wars/Beast Machines.

I think the RiD or Energon would be my least favorite.

by **Zequem** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:22 pm

Favorite: Cybertron (Animated and Prime being very close) This is what really got me into Transformers, though Energon was the first series for me, and after watching Galaxy Force I couldn't love it more. Sure it has it's minuses, but I find it entertaining anyway.

It's actually funny, because I thought I'd never watch Cybertron because I didn't lie how they made them look. Same with Animated and Prime.

Worst: Energon. I don't absolutely hate it, but from those series I have watched, it's the worst. It's been awhile since I've watched it, so maybe I should try to find it from YouTube and do it. Could bring back some memories...

by **DarkEnergon** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:31 pm

Favorite: Animated
I didn't want to bother with it at all, but bought the movie (first 3 episodes) for my kids and ended up getting me into collecting transformers and following nerd tf forums

(plus G1 repeats are hardcore, firing lines and ****, too much for little kids - which is funny its not like TFA isn't violent, but somehow is less brutal)

Interestingly, I never liked Beast Wars, the whole look and concept turned me off, and now apparently I need to give it a chance.

Least: Energon
I watched two episodes, I liked the look, but... yuck.