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One of those many encyclopedia on the web descibe him as transformers who frequents bars and nightclubs and is a womanizer. Okay,is he a womanizer?I never acted that way with Airrazor who he was very respectful to and neither to Silverbolt's girl.Silverbolt acted more like a womanizer than Rattrap.

Ugh, do you even know what "Womanizer" means? Silverbolt had interest in ONE woman, which DOESN'T MAKE HIM A WOMANIZER!

Rattrap made a statement in one episode concerning a bar on Cybertron where the servingbots are walking around minus their torso plates if you know what i mean.

Does that make him a Womanizer? Not necessarily. But then again, he IS a rat.

A love rat?

babylon queen wrote:One of those many encyclopedia on the web descibe him as transformers who frequents bars and nightclubs and is a womanizer. Okay,is he a womanizer?I never acted that way with Airrazor who he was very respectful to and neither to Silverbolt's girl.Silverbolt acted more like a womanizer than Rattrap.

Um yea I gotta second what Damolisher said. A womanizer is a man who treats women as objects, things that only good for cooking, cleaning, and makeing babies and with more than one woman.

Silverbolt is the exact oppisite of a womanizer. He respected women as equills, treated them like people, and was only ever interested in Blackarachnia. Silverbolt was perhaps OVERLY polight and respectfull to everyone, a corny steriotypical hero.

I highly doubt Rattrap was even a womanizer or at least they couldn't really show it in the U.S. cartoon because then they'd have to ban it. They can imply things such as the line about not haveing chest plates but anything beyond that is a strict no no.

Leonardo wrote:A love rat?

You mean "A lust rat?"

Dagon loves pointless threads!

I usually get involved in any Beast Wars thread, bbuuuutt...

Whiner-tron wrote:I usually get involved in any Beast Wars thread, bbuuuutt...

What the heck is that? I think it's an owl but when all I can see is the top of it's head it kinda looks like a butt with eyes.

Saber Prime wrote:A womanizer is a man who treats women as objects, things that only good for cooking, cleaning, and makeing babies and with more than one woman.

Not quite. A womaniser would be best described as "a man who engages in love affairs with women he cannot or will not marry. The love affairs are typically sexually motivated, with little emotional attachment."

A definition that doesn't apply to Rattrap, Silverbolt or any Transformer character actually.

And Leo's right, it's "love rat" not "lust rat". Never even heard of the term "lust rat" before.

I'm guessing BQ was looking at some Wikipedia (or some other fan editted wiki-style site) entry. Best to ignore those websites and just come straight to a forum and ask questions.

Oh and Whiner-Tron, you might want to be careful as the Mods aren't too fond of pics like that in threads.

Maybe Rattrap is just a perv.

*AUTOBOT STITH wrote:Maybe Rattrap is just a perv.

Yeah, that comment about visiting Cybertron clubs with plateless fem-bots gave me the feeling he liked to hit up the seedy part of Cybertropolis.

He's just a ratface to me.

Yet he manages to survive through the series, which is more than we can say for Stasrcream in G1! *Thumbs up*

Burn wrote:And Leo's right, it's "love rat" not "lust rat". Never even heard of the term "lust rat" before.

Lust Rat isn't a term I just said it because if we're talking about Rattrap being a womanizer love has nothing to do with it.

If you're after a woman just for sex and have no real emotional attachment to her, that's Lust.

Saber Prime wrote:

Burn wrote:And Leo's right, it's "love rat" not "lust rat". Never even heard of the term "lust rat" before.

Lust Rat isn't a term I just said it because if we're talking about Rattrap being a womanizer love has nothing to do with it.

If you're after a woman just for sex and have no real emotional attachment to her, that's Lust.

I disagree.

But you have your definition, I have mine. We'll just leave it at that.

Burn wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:

Burn wrote:And Leo's right, it's "love rat" not "lust rat". Never even heard of the term "lust rat" before.

Lust Rat isn't a term I just said it because if we're talking about Rattrap being a womanizer love has nothing to do with it.

If you're after a woman just for sex and have no real emotional attachment to her, that's Lust.

I disagree.

But you have your definition, I have mine. We'll just leave it at that.

Straight from dictionary.com

lust /lʌst/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[luhst] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. intense sexual desire or appetite.
2. uncontrolled or illicit sexual desire or appetite; lecherousness.
3. a passionate or overmastering desire or craving (usually fol. by for): a lust for power.
4. ardent enthusiasm; zest; relish: an enviable lust for life.
5. Obsolete. a. pleasure or delight.
b. desire; inclination; wish.

–verb (used without object) 6. to have intense sexual desire.
7. to have a yearning or desire; have a strong or excessive craving (often fol. by for or after).

From dictionary.com ....

love /lʌv/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[luhv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, loved, lov·ing.
–noun 1. a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person.
2. a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, as for a parent, child, or friend.
3. sexual passion or desire.
4. a person toward whom love is felt; beloved person; sweetheart.
5. (used in direct address as a term of endearment, affection, or the like): Would you like to see a movie, love?
6. a love affair; an intensely amorous incident; amour.
7. sexual intercourse; copulation.
8. (initial capital letter) a personification of sexual affection, as Eros or Cupid.
9. affectionate concern for the well-being of others: the love of one's neighbor.
10. strong predilection, enthusiasm, or liking for anything: her love of books.
11. the object or thing so liked: The theater was her great love.
12. the benevolent affection of God for His creatures, or the reverent affection due from them to God.
13. Chiefly Tennis. a score of zero; nothing.
14. a word formerly used in communications to represent the letter L.
–verb (used with object) 15. to have love or affection for: All her pupils love her.
16. to have a profoundly tender, passionate affection for (another person).
17. to have a strong liking for; take great pleasure in: to love music.
18. to need or require; benefit greatly from: Plants love sunlight.
19. to embrace and kiss (someone), as a lover.
20. to have sexual intercourse with.
–verb (used without object) 21. to have love or affection for another person; be in love.

I took the liberty of highlighting #3 so that you can see how love and lust can be construed as the same thing.

And because of that I was content to let things slide, but seeing as you felt you needed to get the last say in (something I do believe you bitched at me for doing once) then I should also point out that the term "love rat" is far more common than the term "lust rat", which in fact may be a term you just made up.

Now, are we done?

Savage wrote:Rattrap made a statement in one episode concerning a bar on Cybertron where the servingbots are walking around minus their torso plates if you know what i mean.

Does that make him a Womanizer? Not necessarily. But then again, he IS a rat.

his beast mode mens nothing towards his personality on cybertron it ws his size that gave him that option. No info has been given on what form he would of been on cybertron and aswell what warm blooded guy dos NOT like going to a top less bar night come on

Saber_Wulf wrote:

Savage wrote:Rattrap made a statement in one episode concerning a bar on Cybertron where the servingbots are walking around minus their torso plates if you know what i mean.

Does that make him a Womanizer? Not necessarily. But then again, he IS a rat.

his beast mode mens nothing towards his personality on cybertron it ws his size that gave him that option. No info has been given on what form he would of been on cybertron and aswell what warm blooded guy dos NOT like going to a top less bar night come on

One could argue that the BotCon exclusive Rattrap gives information as to his Cybertronian form. It's not concrete and is a retcon but it is a start.

And a love rat is just one who romances or sleeps with more than one person, often when all the culprit's partners have no knowledge of one another.

Burn wrote:From dictionary.com ....

love /lʌv/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[luhv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, loved, lov·ing.
–noun 1. a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person.
2. a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, as for a parent, child, or friend.
3. sexual passion or desire.
4. a person toward whom love is felt; beloved person; sweetheart.
5. (used in direct address as a term of endearment, affection, or the like): Would you like to see a movie, love?
6. a love affair; an intensely amorous incident; amour.
7. sexual intercourse; copulation.
8. (initial capital letter) a personification of sexual affection, as Eros or Cupid.
9. affectionate concern for the well-being of others: the love of one's neighbor.
10. strong predilection, enthusiasm, or liking for anything: her love of books.
11. the object or thing so liked: The theater was her great love.
12. the benevolent affection of God for His creatures, or the reverent affection due from them to God.
13. Chiefly Tennis. a score of zero; nothing.
14. a word formerly used in communications to represent the letter L.
–verb (used with object) 15. to have love or affection for: All her pupils love her.
16. to have a profoundly tender, passionate affection for (another person).
17. to have a strong liking for; take great pleasure in: to love music.
18. to need or require; benefit greatly from: Plants love sunlight.
19. to embrace and kiss (someone), as a lover.
20. to have sexual intercourse with.
–verb (used without object) 21. to have love or affection for another person; be in love.

I took the liberty of highlighting #3 so that you can see how love and lust can be construed as the same thing.

And because of that I was content to let things slide, but seeing as you felt you needed to get the last say in (something I do believe you bitched at me for doing once) then I should also point out that the term "love rat" is far more common than the term "lust rat", which in fact may be a term you just made up.

Now, are we done?

But they're not the same, the difference is Lust has no emotional attachment.

Okay; Burn, Saber Prime, if we're going to do this right, one of you will have to change their name to "Damolisher" and the other to "Tramp".

Please, can't we all just let this go? I really don't want to see a new Tramp War.

Whiner-tron wrote:Okay; Burn, Saber Prime, if we're going to do this right, one of you will have to change their name to "Damolisher" and the other to "Tramp".

Please, can't we all just let this go? I really don't want to see a new Tramp War.

I 2nd that

He refered to going to cyber strip clubs sometimes, so I'd say yeah.

Whiner-tron wrote:Okay; Burn, Saber Prime, if we're going to do this right, one of you will have to change their name to "Damolisher" and the other to "Tramp".

Please, can't we all just let this go? I really don't want to see a new Tramp War.

*Raises hand* Who does that make me then?

Damolisher wrote:

Whiner-tron wrote:Okay; Burn, Saber Prime, if we're going to do this right, one of you will have to change their name to "Damolisher" and the other to "Tramp".

Please, can't we all just let this go? I really don't want to see a new Tramp War.

*Raises hand* Who does that make me then?

the guy not bolding every other word of his post just hopping to site the ultimate source guide before getting banned