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News Credits: 5 · by **physucks** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:06 pm

One of my co-workers told me that the original version of TFTM he saw in theaters oh so many years ago, had a scene where Skyfire died. I can't seem to remember this in any of the versions of the film I've seen. Can somone back up this claim?

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:19 pm

I've never heard this. I can believe he was probably in an original draft of the script, and may very well have died in that draft, but I've never heard of such a scene actually being animated, let alone played in theatres.

News Credits: 730 · by **Raymond T.** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:40 pm

physucks wrote:One of my co-workers told me that the original version of TFTM he saw in theaters oh so many years ago, had a scene where Skyfire died. I can't seem to remember this in any of the versions of the film I've seen. Can somone back up this claim?

Skyfire did NOT die in Transformers: The movie!

He died in 'Dark Awakening'.

News Credits: 1 · by **Scatterlung** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:19 pm

Raymond T. wrote:
physucks wrote:One of my co-workers told me that the original version of TFTM he saw in theaters oh so many years ago, had a scene where Skyfire died. I can't seem to remember this in any of the versions of the film I've seen. Can somone back up this claim?
Skyfire did NOT die in Transformers: The movie!

He died in 'Dark Awakening'.

Well his animation model certainly did...

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:41 pm

Ha, I knew Raymond T. would be all over this thread!

Meverix, why did I think you live in America?

News Credits: 1 · by **Scatterlung** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:59 pm

Leonardo wrote:Meverix, why did I think you live in America?

I dunno, I'm one of the ones who likes to boast about being in the region that Hasbro doesn't care about.

I LIVE IN BRITAIN!

whoops, there I go again :roll:

...No seriously, why did you think that?

News Credits: 730 · by **Raymond T.** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:59 pm

Leonardo wrote:Ha, I knew Raymond T. would be all over this thread!

What?!

by **Dclone Soundwave** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:28 pm

Leonardo wrote:Ha, I knew Raymond T. would be all over this thread!

When wouldn't he be? Skyfire didn't even die. We will never really know if that was Skyfire in "Dark Awakening", or just a Cybertronian jet that bore a striking resemblance to him. *shrugs*

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:28 am

Meverix wrote:
Leonardo wrote:Meverix, why did I think you live in America?
I dunno, I'm one of the ones who likes to boast about being in the region that Hasbro doesn't care about.

I LIVE IN BRITAIN!

whoops, there I go again

...No seriously, why did you think that?

It's quite obvious, Meverix, that I am a buffoon.

I quite like Bristol and the surrounding area, whether Hasbro does or not.

And Raymond, don't pretend you don't love it!

I concur with you, Decepticlone.

by **NightFall** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:37 am

Dark Awakening? Well, I don't remember that..ok I'm looking that up.

News Credits: 1 · by **Scatterlung** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:45 am

Leonardo wrote:
Meverix wrote:
Leonardo wrote:Meverix, why did I think you live in America?
I dunno, I'm one of the ones who likes to boast about being in the region that Hasbro doesn't care about.

I LIVE IN BRITAIN!

whoops, there I go again

...No seriously, why did you think that?

It's quite obvious, Meverix, that I am a buffoon.

I quite like Bristol and the surrounding area, whether Hasbro does or not.

And Raymond, don't pretend you don't love it!

I concur with you, Decepticlone.

You LIKE Bristol? Deary me... I can't wait to leave

by **Xtro Guyver_1606** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:48 am

Weel Skyfires last appearence was technically a 5 second cameo in headmasters as one of the guys in the background

by **Nemesis_Apoc** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:07 am

Well, the Autobots supposedly mourned his death in the episode "Fire in the Sky" but he came back the next episode. That always bugged the hell out of me.

by **ShockwaveUK** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:12 am

by **Nemesis_Apoc** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:22 am

Gah! It's true!

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:23 pm

Meverix wrote:
Leonardo wrote:
Meverix wrote:
Leonardo wrote:Meverix, why did I think you live in America?
I dunno, I'm one of the ones who likes to boast about being in the region that Hasbro doesn't care about.

I LIVE IN BRITAIN!

whoops, there I go again

...No seriously, why did you think that?

It's quite obvious, Meverix, that I am a buffoon.

I quite like Bristol and the surrounding area, whether Hasbro does or not.

And Raymond, don't pretend you don't love it!

I concur with you, Decepticlone.

You LIKE Bristol? Deary me... I can't wait to leave

Yeah, it's decent enough. The West and South West are my favourite parts of England. I loathe the South East.

News Credits: 730 · by **Raymond T.** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:03 pm

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:Gah! It's true!

Told ya!

by **Nemesis_Apoc** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:59 pm

Raymond T. wrote:
Nemesis_Apoc wrote:Gah! It's true!
Told ya!

That's from "Dark Awakening," right? guess I'll have to go back and watch that show again.

News Credits: 730 · by **Raymond T.** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:03 pm

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:
Raymond T. wrote:
Nemesis_Apoc wrote:Gah! It's true!
Told ya!
That's from "Dark Awakening," right? guess I'll have to go back and watch that show again.

Yes. It's the part where the fleet is heading towards the detonator and the Quints open fire.

by **Nemesis_Apoc** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:05 pm

Alright, cool. Thanks! I'm still having trouble seeing why Skyfire didn't stay dead after Fire in the Sky. I guess it's the same reason Prime's trailer is never seen until he transforms.

by **ShockwaveUK** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:07 pm

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:Alright, cool. Thanks! I'm still having trouble seeing why Skyfire didn't stay dead after Fire in the Sky. I guess it's the same reason Prime's trailer is never seen until he transforms.

He didn't die, he got buried in the ice again and the Autobots couldn't be arsed to dig him out until they needed him again [what good comrades they were].

by **Nemesis_Apoc** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:09 pm

But the Autobots acted like it was funeral, like he was gone for good. Meh. I guess your theory is good enough, considering he shows right back up in the next episode.

News Credits: 730 · by **Raymond T.** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:11 pm

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:Alright, cool. Thanks! I'm still having trouble seeing why Skyfire didn't stay dead after Fire in the Sky. I guess it's the same reason Prime's trailer is never seen until he transforms.

In truth, Harmony Gold was still breathing down Sunbow's neck. Even after Jetfire was changed into Skyfire, they still threatend with lawsuits. Still the character was an interesting one, so they brought him back. But in the end they decided not to include him anymore. The model appeared in Dark Awakening, because the bible for season three was largely incomplete at that time. Missing many footnotes that were entered during production of 1 and 2. Mostly likely the note that the model was not to be used again went missing, or it was just an artist who wanted to do Skyfire one more time, and tried to hide him in the crowd by leaving him all white.

News Credits: 730 · by **Raymond T.** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:13 pm

Nemesis_Apoc wrote:But the Autobots acted like it was funeral, like he was gone for good. Meh. I guess your theory is good enough, considering he shows right back up in the next episode.

No, they kept telling themselves to remember and bring something to melt the ice next time. They promised him that they shall remember!

by **AxiomScion** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:02 pm

Raymond T. wrote:
Nemesis_Apoc wrote:But the Autobots acted like it was funeral, like he was gone for good. Meh. I guess your theory is good enough, considering he shows right back up in the next episode.
No, they kept telling themselves to remember and bring something to melt the ice next time. They promised him that they shall remember!

and here I keep picturing Jetfire being held by 5 ice cubes and a rampant refrigerator with a TF Cog

I thought Slag was pretty good with the arsen and melting snow cones. :-?