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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

TattedPitbull wrote:could you imagine lol! Obama would be like "I can make peace with this alien species and we will share our earth!" Megatron would be like "Who R dis Obama persons and I'm going tew share wat wiff em?" then he'd swat Obama around til he got bored and went off to do something better. Sorry had to make a funny about Obama, i used to like him but he really hasnt done a damn thing for the economy, so he won a noble peice prize for reliving tensions in the middle east, so freaking what, it is a good thing but lets focus on our own country now! lol i like picturing megatron smacking him around though lolz!!!!

My thoughts exactly, bro. Change we need...riiiiight.

As for Megatron, yeah, you wouldn't have the time to extend your hand in friendship before he just stomps on you with a metal foot, and heads for the buffet table. "I want more vodka in this punch! Useless flesh-bound vermin...don't even know how to make a good drink!"

he does seem like the kinda dude to get roaring drunk and get all bitchy the next day, lol he'd have to learn to shake it off omg i remember my first time, only 14 i hadnt yet grown into my puppy paws, ppl even said for a begginer, a woman begginer i was pretty good! lol but now megatron he'd out drink anybody, you know when the next botcon comes 'round we gotta get some ah ehem "punch" and eh have a lil contest, beer bong anyone?!?!? lol its on!

TattedPitbull wrote:he does seem like the kinda dude to get roaring drunk and get all bitchy the next day, lol he'd have to learn to shake it off omg i remember my first time, only 14 i hadnt yet grown into my puppy paws, ppl even said for a begginer, a woman begginer i was pretty good! lol but now megatron he'd out drink anybody, you know when the next botcon comes 'round we gotta get some ah ehem "punch" and eh have a lil contest, beer bong anyone?!?!? lol its on!

Yeah, Megs bleeds industrial alcohol, literally!

Beer keg in a botcon? Heheh, I'm up for it. Just hope one one ends up drunk and starts to trash the TF's on display thinking about his past failed romances or something

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

TattedPitbull wrote:he does seem like the kinda dude to get roaring drunk and get all bitchy the next day, lol he'd have to learn to shake it off omg i remember my first time, only 14 i hadnt yet grown into my puppy paws, ppl even said for a begginer, a woman begginer i was pretty good! lol but now megatron he'd out drink anybody, you know when the next botcon comes 'round we gotta get some ah ehem "punch" and eh have a lil contest, beer bong anyone?!?!? lol its on!

Yeah, Megs bleeds industrial alcohol, literally!

Beer keg in a botcon? Heheh, I'm up for it. Just hope one one ends up drunk and starts to trash the TF's on display thinking about his past failed romances or something

lol i hope not either, i could use a good corona at botcon it'd be that much funner, i wonder who else would wanna do beer bong and all that

TattedPitbull wrote:lol i hope not either, i could use a good corona at botcon it'd be that much funner, i wonder who else would wanna do beer bong and all that

Never been to a botcon, so I'm not sure they'll let anyone bring alcohol or even drinks into the place. But then, there's always the nearest bar for everyone to gather around in the evening

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

TattedPitbull wrote:lol i hope not either, i could use a good corona at botcon it'd be that much funner, i wonder who else would wanna do beer bong and all that

Never been to a botcon, so I'm not sure they'll let anyone bring alcohol or even drinks into the place. But then, there's always the nearest bar for everyone to gather around in the evening

i cant go to a bar, be honest and ill ratt meself out but next botcon, 2010 ill be one year under drinkin age i wont be 21 untill 2011, but hell i can prolly go out and find some of my homies thatll probly come along and get us to a party or somethin, that is if they dont allow "drinks" at botcon, we'll figure something out, my homies always pull through no matter where i go i got people, trust me!

Booze? Bah, I'll pass. I've seen too much of the other side of it for it to have any attraction for me.


Anywhoo, I am intregued by the idea that Megatron sees himself as the hero. I can certainly see him hating Prime for all the right reasons, and that might be propaganda for how he is able to recruit all those other 'bots.

But I think his prejudice against fleshlings might be imagined a bit too extreme. What if these fleshlings were amiable to helping him? Would he still kill them, or would he put aside this prejudice because it is instead helping the 'salvation' of the Cybertronian race?

TattedPitbull wrote:i cant go to a bar, be honest and ill ratt meself out but next botcon, 2010 ill be one year under drinkin age i wont be 21 untill 2011, but hell i can prolly go out and find some of my homies thatll probly come along and get us to a party or somethin, that is if they dont allow "drinks" at botcon, we'll figure something out, my homies always pull through no matter where i go i got people, trust me!

Looks like you got it all figured out

Zombie Starscream wrote:Booze? Bah, I'll pass. I've seen too much of the other side of it for it to have any attraction for me.


Anywhoo, I am intregued by the idea that Megatron sees himself as the hero. I can certainly see him hating Prime for all the right reasons, and that might be propaganda for how he is able to recruit all those other 'bots.

But I think his prejudice against fleshlings might be imagined a bit too extreme. What if these fleshlings were amiable to helping him? Would he still kill them, or would he put aside this prejudice because it is instead helping the 'salvation' of the Cybertronian race?

Megs has been through various different characterizations since his first appearance in the 1984 animated series, but he's generally seen as a Cybertronian version of Hitler. He just plain old hates non-Cybertronian anything's, and glorifies his own kind. In the first Bay movie, he did try to reason with Prime during their fight ("Humans don't deserve to live" and all that), so he still sees Prime as a fellow Cybertronian, if only he and his Autobots stop getting in the way of him saving their race.

Imagine if Hitler had actually won WWII. He's never stop with just the extinction of the Jews. One fine day, he'd get to thinking that even the Japanese, his once allies, are inferior to his Aryan race, and plan for their genocide. Within decades, he would be at war with every other race in the world. He would stop at nothing short of complete annihilation of non-Teutonic peoples.

Similarly, Megatron's hatred for organic beings is a very deeply-rooted personal thing. He hates organics like most people hate Barney the Dinosaur or Jar Jar Binks; he just does. His wanting to kill humans has nothing to do with saving Cybertron.

Besides, we did keep him frozen for a few thousands years, and dissected him for parts; you'd be more than a little pissed if that happened to you

Ah, I see what your sayin'

I guess what it might be summed up as is, Megatron wants the salvation of the Cybertronian race even if it means the extinction of other races, while conquering and promoting the superiority of his robotic race over anything else.

Prime, on the other hand wants to not cause any harm to other races during the salavation of the Cybertronian race, and trying to avoid other species getting dragged into a war that never should have started.

At least that's my idea on things.

Zombie Starscream wrote:Ah, I see what your sayin'

I guess what it might be summed up as is, Megatron wants the salvation of the Cybertronian race even if it means the extinction of other races, while conquering and promoting the superiority of his robotic race over anything else.

Prime, on the other hand wants to not cause any harm to other races during the salavation of the Cybertronian race, and trying to avoid other species getting dragged into a war that never should have started.

At least that's my idea on things.

Exactly, bro.

In any case, Prime seems to have done more harm to the Cybertronians and the humans than good. It was his decision (well, the Autobots' general decision, anyway) to send the Allspark to outer space. Never occurred to them than it might fall into an occupied planet, namely Earth, and lure Megatron to said planet and endanger its natives.

"We cannot let the humans pay for our mistakes." Those were his own words. And how true they are....

Well in the movie verse, I can can completely understand how a transformers would want to join the decepticons. As I said before, the Primes, as basically ran everything into the ground in their quest keep from hindering outside their own. Their short sighted but well meaning approaches as as extreme as those opposing them.

I could see people defecting cause ultimately neither side is right, or just reaching point Jetfire did. Be like slag all of you, I'm going hide out somewhere and may be solve this energon probelm myself.

While I do appreciate that the villains are somewhat justified, as their actions to survive make sense, they need actually have the autobots create some means keeping their race alive in the next films. Otherwise Megatron starts look right after a point, if every solution presented by him is ultimately wrecked by Prime. Even if Megatrons plans might screw over the earth due to them being based off his worlds greater good not ours, he ultimately has presented more long term solutions for his races survival than prime has. From a purely cybertronian stand point Prime doing nothing but saving fleshlings and flat out destroying every window cybertron has to survive.

Why would anyone want to follow this guy? I understand loyalty and desiring to not waste other creatures. But wanting live or I dont know, actually try reasoning with Megatron uptill his plans prove completely useless, Id hear him out before blasting his face off.(always reserve right melt down the opposing view.) Seems prime and him can only cue up a dialogue when they re smacking each other around. No wonder this war hasnt ended heh. They seriously screwed up if I find myself agreeing with Starscream, as he believes he'd be a better leader than both Prime and megatron, he might actually be right.

not only that b ut if you were to ask megatron to try and view it from Prime's point of view maybe he'd be like hmmm...maybe they're right. because Prime would love to save his race as well but he wants to do it alot carefully, its more like a civil war going on, Megatron is like the south, and Prime the north. To megatron we're all "the N word" and could be good little bitches under his rule, to prime we're equals but still good little bitches lol. but honestly if you were to hear Megs being like "destroy humans so we can respawn yadda yadd blah more BS" I'd honestly ask him if he even ever TRIED to see Prime's point of view. That'd probly stop his mouth from running. Be like, whats the difference between you and me, we're both violent races, WTF ya d***? lol! and then tell em, look wheelie likes the idea of peace, and wheelie would be humping my leg lol

The only way that we could see if Prime's view was better, is if he was actually given a point in the movies to spell it out. Right now we know little unless Bay decides to exchange some overdone Mikaela shots for some crucial Prime dialog.

Maybe Prime is a suicidal coot, and Megatron is the levelheaded one. Who knows?

Zombie Starscream wrote:The only way that we could see if Prime's view was better, is if he was actually given a point in the movies to spell it out. Right now we know little unless Bay decides to exchange some overdone Mikaela shots for some crucial Prime dialog.

Maybe Prime is a suicidal coot, and Megatron is the levelheaded one. Who knows?

lol oh and dont forget Bay has to knock off the excessive explosions, i know it sells but holy hell!

But in all honesty say if Megs was real and you told him to view it from primes point he'd probly be like "good point, never thought of it like that, and now i can turn my back on those d-con backstabbers and kick thier ass for plotting against me in the first place" lol funny but yeah. Anyways think about it, if megatron used his head for once, he'd make one badass goodguy and kick some major ass, so would starscream, remember if he was plotting against megs then who would be next to plot against him?

TattedPitbull wrote:not only that b ut if you were to ask megatron to try and view it from Prime's point of view maybe he'd be like hmmm...maybe they're right. because Prime would love to save his race as well but he wants to do it alot carefully, its more like a civil war going on, Megatron is like the south, and Prime the north. To megatron we're all "the N word" and could be good little bitches under his rule, to prime we're equals but still good little bitches lol. but honestly if you were to hear Megs being like "destroy humans so we can respawn yadda yadd blah more BS" I'd honestly ask him if he even ever TRIED to see Prime's point of view. That'd probly stop his mouth from running. Be like, whats the difference between you and me, we're both violent races, WTF ya d***? lol! and then tell em, look wheelie likes the idea of peace, and wheelie would be humping my leg lol

IMO, I doubt Megatron can see things beyond the end of his stubby metal nose, let alone Prime's point of view. He lives for war; it's what defines him. While it's true we're both violent races, his is the race that has the fusion blasters to back up his temper.

IMO, Micheal Bay just wants to pander to the military in both movies. If there really were Cybertronians invading out planet, there's no hope in hell that our technology could ever dream of holding them back, let alone win the war.

The only reason the humans won in the first movie is because Bay didn't have the CG budget to put more Decepticons on screen

Peace only happens when both sides see equal imminent destruction, or a loss of personal interests. At the rate things are going, the survival of Cybertron pretty much requires the annihilation of mankind one way or another (using human electronic equipment to spawn protoforms using the Allspark, harvesting energon by destroying the sun, etc.). There's nothing to persuade Megatron to pursue a peaceful means of resolving the problem.

Worse still, Prime is against the use of such methods, even at the cost of their own race dying out, giving Megs all the more reason not to want to negotiate with him.

Zombie Starscream wrote:Maybe Prime is a suicidal coot, and Megatron is the levelheaded one. Who knows?

That pretty much says it all

In any case, it sucks to be human if TF's really existed.

TattedPitbull wrote:But in all honesty say if Megs was real and you told him to view it from primes point he'd probly be like "good point, never thought of it like that, and now i can turn my back on those d-con backstabbers and kick thier ass for plotting against me in the first place" lol funny but yeah. Anyways think about it, if megatron used his head for once, he'd make one badass goodguy and kick some major ass, so would starscream, remember if he was plotting against megs then who would be next to plot against him?

I could see Megatron or Starscream kissing little babies at the center of a hero parade (and accidentally swallowing them in the process)...whoa, gross.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
I could see Megatron or Starscream kissing little babies at the center of a hero parade (and accidentally swallowing them in the process)...whoa, gross.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL that made me almost fall out of my seat laughing, "soo cute you could eat em, hmm why not?*gulp*" have everyone freak out ," OMFG CANNIBALS...wait they arent cannibals BUT THEY SOUND LIKE IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" lolz I WIN!

I admit im strange but then again who isn't!!!!!

TattedPitbull wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
I could see Megatron or Starscream kissing little babies at the center of a hero parade (and accidentally swallowing them in the process)...whoa, gross.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL that made me almost fall out of my seat laughing, "soo cute you could eat em, hmm why not?*gulp*" have everyone freak out ," OMFG CANNIBALS...wait they arent cannibals BUT THEY SOUND LIKE IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" lolz I WIN!

They could make a whole skit out of that

Starscream: "What? Why's everyone running?"

Megs: You fool! Check what's that stuck between your teeth!

Starscream: Some squishy red-and-pink thing. Kinda looks like that little flesh-slug I was kissing--...wait, did I just...?

Megs: Yes you did.

Starscream: So? There's plenty more where those came from; these things breed like gerbils! Man, that slug-juice better not stain my enamel. Just had them polished last week....

TattedPitbull wrote:I admit im strange but then again who isn't!!!!!

Heheh, if you're strange, then I must be Chris Nolan's Joker. I collect knives...

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

TattedPitbull wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
I could see Megatron or Starscream kissing little babies at the center of a hero parade (and accidentally swallowing them in the process)...whoa, gross.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL that made me almost fall out of my seat laughing, "soo cute you could eat em, hmm why not?*gulp*" have everyone freak out ," OMFG CANNIBALS...wait they arent cannibals BUT THEY SOUND LIKE IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" lolz I WIN!

They could make a whole skit out of that

Starscream: "What? Why's everyone running?"

Megs: You fool! Check what's that stuck between your teeth!

Starscream: Some squishy red-and-pink thing. Kinda looks like that little flesh-slug I was kissing--...wait, did I just...?

Megs: Yes you did.

Starscream: So? There's plenty more where those came from; these things breed like gerbils! Man, that slug-juice better not stain my enamel. Just had them polished last week....

i almost cried i laughed so hard twas funny

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

TattedPitbull wrote:I admit im strange but then again who isn't!!!!!

Heheh, if you're strange, then I must be Chris Nolan's Joker. I collect knives...

Hey, if you're strange, I must be a ghoul. I collect animal skulls.

Zombie Starscream wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

TattedPitbull wrote:I admit im strange but then again who isn't!!!!!

Heheh, if you're strange, then I must be Chris Nolan's Joker. I collect knives...

Hey, if you're strange, I must be a ghoul. I collect animal skulls.

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zombie Starscream wrote:

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

TattedPitbull wrote:I admit im strange but then again who isn't!!!!!

Heheh, if you're strange, then I must be Chris Nolan's Joker. I collect knives...

Hey, if you're strange, I must be a ghoul. I collect animal skulls.

Seriously? Wow, that's cool.

so back on subject, instead of taming Megatron lets just stick em in a cage and pet em like a good little puppy dog, be like "wheres yo tail?" then get blasted lol.

TattedPitbull wrote:so back on subject, instead of taming Megatron lets just stick em in a cage and pet em like a good little puppy dog, be like "wheres yo tail?" then get blasted lol.

What cage could possibly hold that guy? Bad things happen when you try to tame wild animals; didn't Steven Spielberg's Jurassic Park teach you that?!

But you never know.

After a while he might just go all Sigmund Freud on you by curling up into a corner, weeping as he recalls his traumatic past as a grunt bot. "Why do they all judge me? Just because I like coloring books doesn't make me less of a male bot! I'm big, and I'm strong, and I can guzzle energon with the best of them! I just like coloring books, is all!"

Scalpel/The Doctor: "So is zat vat drives you into committing zeez random acts of violence?"

Megs: "I just didn't want them to call me a weenie! I never wanted to beat up those other bots, but that's the only way to stop them from making fun of me..."

Scalpel/The Doctor: Very interezting. Tell me, Herr Megatron, did your rivalry viz Herr Prime alzo start from zeez early days?"

Megs: "Everyone liked him, and he always got all the fembots! Elita-1, Chromia, even that ditsy Arcee. I'm just as strong as he is, but everyone calls him a hero, and me, an ugly villain. Just because I got sharp teeth!"

Scalpel/The Doctor: "I surmise zat your decision to enter ze Cybertronian Army vaz alzo a result of ziz rivalry, ya, nein?

Megs: "Ya--...I mean, yes. I thought if I became a soldier, I could someday launch a coup and become the ruler of Cybertron. Then every bot will learn to respect me! But that Prime had to get in the way. Him and his stupid band of rabble. 'Autobots'...sounds like some carwash. How does it even compare to the thunderous power of the name DECEPTICON!"

Scalpel/The Doctor: I'm afraid zat iz all ze time ve 'ave for tozay. I vill make an appointment viz Fraulein Tattedpitbull for anozer interview. Until zen, Guttentag.

Megs: Waiiit! I haven't even told you about my early childhood! Get back here, you little crab bot! And bring me a bottle of vodka the next time you visit!"

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:

TattedPitbull wrote:so back on subject, instead of taming Megatron lets just stick em in a cage and pet em like a good little puppy dog, be like "wheres yo tail?" then get blasted lol.

What cage could possibly hold that guy? Bad things happen when you try to tame wild animals; didn't Steven Spielberg's Jurassic Park teach you that?!

But you never know.

After a while he might just go all Sigmund Freud on you by curling up into a corner, weeping as he recalls his traumatic past as a grunt bot. "Why do they all judge me? Just because I like coloring books doesn't make me less of a male bot! I'm big, and I'm strong, and I can guzzle energon with the best of them! I just like coloring books, is all!"

Scalpel/The Doctor: "So is zat vat drives you into committing zeez random acts of violence?"

Megs: "I just didn't want them to call me a weenie! I never wanted to beat up those other bots, but that's the only way to stop them from making fun of me..."

Scalpel/The Doctor: Very interezting. Tell me, Herr Megatron, did your rivalry viz Herr Prime alzo start from zeez early days?"

Megs: "Everyone liked him, and he always got all the fembots! Elita-1, Chromia, even that ditsy Arcee. I'm just as strong as he is, but everyone calls him a hero, and me, an ugly villain. Just because I got sharp teeth!"

Scalpel/The Doctor: "I surmise zat your decision to enter ze Cybertronian Army vaz alzo a result of ziz rivalry, ya, nein?

Megs: "Ya--...I mean, yes. I thought if I became a soldier, I could someday launch a coup and become the ruler of Cybertron. Then every bot will learn to respect me! But that Prime had to get in the way. Him and his stupid band of rabble. 'Autobots'...sounds like some carwash. How does it even compare to the thunderous power of the name DECEPTICON!"

Scalpel/The Doctor: I'm afraid zat iz all ze time ve 'ave for tozay. I vill make an appointment viz Fraulein Tattedpitbull for anozer interview. Until zen, Guttentag.

Megs: Waiiit! I haven't even told you about my early childhood! Get back here, you little crab bot! And bring me a bottle of vodka the next time you visit!"

yay i get an interview! lol that was funny though