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News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu May 05, 2016 2:54 pm

From what I've heard, the heads are tied to specific molds so they very likely couldn't be swapped around.

That said, I agree in wishing that the Starscream head had been pretooled to the Air Raid mold and the Conehead head pretooled to the Skydive mold, as not only would doing so have given Starscream and Thrust more accurate altmodes but the rectangles on the Air Raid mold's chest would have worked well as Starscream's pectorals.

However, I have seen one decent argument for the way they were done as they are. The Skydive mold's torso is built more like the tradition Seeker torso, complete with shoulder notches that emulate Starscream's shoulder intakes, while the wide and boxy build of the Air Raid mold's torso is more evocative of Armada Thrust's own wide and boxy torso, which also enabled one of his boxy pecs to be colored red like on both the original Armada Thrust toy and cartoon model.

by **StarFireMk4** » Thu May 05, 2016 3:36 pm

Only figure I'm really feeling from this set is Thrust. Not a big fan of the others.

(which is fine, seeing as how I'm saving for UW Comps)

News Credits: 3604 · by **Seibertron** » Thu May 05, 2016 5:04 pm

Sabrblade wrote:From what I've heard, the heads are tied to specific molds so they very likely couldn't be swapped around.

That said, I agree in wishing that the Starscream head had been pretooled to the Air Raid mold and the Conehead head pretooled to the Skydive mold, as not only would doing so have given Starscream and Thrust more accurate altmodes but the rectangles on the Air Raid mold's chest would have worked well as Starscream's pectorals.

However, I have seen one decent argument for the way they were done as they are. The Skydive mold's torso is built more like the tradition Seeker torso, complete with shoulder notches that emulate Starscream's shoulder intakes, while the wide and boxy build of the Air Raid mold's torso is more evocative of Armada Thrust's own wide and boxy torso, which also enabled one of his boxy pecs to be colored red like on both the original Armada Thrust toy and cartoon model.

Working on the robot mode galleries for Armada Thrust and Ghost Starscream currently. While working on Starscream's, one of the wings popped off very easily which gave me an idea. So I popped off the other wing, flipped them around, and now you end up with wings that are very evocative of G1 Starscream in robot mode. I can't help but think this was the reasoning at some point in the development process. Pics will be in the gallery once it is completed some time tomorrow.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Thu May 05, 2016 5:24 pm

Grandvatron is on my desk right now and the sun is creeping through the blinds behind him just lighting up Starscream like a magic energon crystal. Looks so awesome, just had to share.

News Credits: 2 · by **Mr Skram** » Thu May 05, 2016 5:29 pm

Cobotron wrote:Grandvatron is on my desk right now and the sun is creeping through the blinds behind him just lighting up Starscream like a magic energon crystal. Looks so awesome, just had to share.

Let us see and I might finally pull the trigger on this beautiful disaster of a combiner!

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu May 05, 2016 6:26 pm

Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:From what I've heard, the heads are tied to specific molds so they very likely couldn't be swapped around.

That said, I agree in wishing that the Starscream head had been pretooled to the Air Raid mold and the Conehead head pretooled to the Skydive mold, as not only would doing so have given Starscream and Thrust more accurate altmodes but the rectangles on the Air Raid mold's chest would have worked well as Starscream's pectorals.

However, I have seen one decent argument for the way they were done as they are. The Skydive mold's torso is built more like the tradition Seeker torso, complete with shoulder notches that emulate Starscream's shoulder intakes, while the wide and boxy build of the Air Raid mold's torso is more evocative of Armada Thrust's own wide and boxy torso, which also enabled one of his boxy pecs to be colored red like on both the original Armada Thrust toy and cartoon model.

Working on the robot mode galleries for Armada Thrust and Ghost Starscream currently. While working on Starscream's, one of the wings popped off very easily which gave me an idea. So I popped off the other wing, flipped them around, and now you end up with wings that are very evocative of G1 Starscream in robot mode. I can't help but think this was the reasoning at some point in the development process. Pics will be in the gallery once it is completed some time tomorrow.

Oh man, the wings being flipped around like that would have made the Skydive mold even more perfect for Thrust since his original toy and cartoon model had his wings flipped around in robot mode as well. Such a missing opportunity for Hasbro having pretooled the heads to opposite molds.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu May 05, 2016 6:47 pm

If they had released Roller and Breakdown by themselves, I would so have got them. Roller for the Lost Light (yeah yeah ya don't need to tell me he was never on board, but he was in the comic) and Breakdown for a proper Prime version of him. Ghost Scream is really cool and may have been a buy, but I don't really have any attraction to Thrust and I love my Cyclonus :MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu May 05, 2016 10:21 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Oh man, the wings being flipped around like that would have made the Skydive mold even more perfect for Thrust since his original toy and cartoon model had his wings flipped around in robot mode as well. Such a missing opportunity for Hasbro having pretooled the heads to opposite molds.

Speaking of missed opportunities, anyone think Hasbro is gonna milk these molds ('seeker' and 'conehead') at all? Hasbro not using them is so counter to their whole business strategy right now - especially, since they're there already :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu May 05, 2016 10:48 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Oh man, the wings being flipped around like that would have made the Skydive mold even more perfect for Thrust since his original toy and cartoon model had his wings flipped around in robot mode as well. Such a missing opportunity for Hasbro having pretooled the heads to opposite molds.

Speaking of missed opportunities, anyone think Hasbro is gonna milk these molds ('seeker' and 'conehead') at all? Hasbro not using them is so counter to their whole business strategy right now - especially, since they're there already

Imagine if you could make that combiner from the Deviations comic. You could almost do that with the molds and heads available :MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Thu May 05, 2016 11:56 pm

Megascream and the Megascream combiner were like, the only good thing about the Deviations comic... and I'd love it.
Just.
Silverbolt for Screamer, Thrust for Dirge and... Thrust; UW Blast Off for Astrotrain, and...
...
Offroad for Soundwave...?

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Fri May 06, 2016 12:05 am

Kurona wrote:Megascream and the Megascream combiner were like, the only good thing about the Deviations comic... and I'd love it.
Just.
Silverbolt for Screamer, Thrust for Dirge and... Thrust; UW Blast Off for Astrotrain, and...
...
Offroad for Soundwave...?

Works for me! :MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri May 06, 2016 12:11 am

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Kurona wrote:Megascream and the Megascream combiner were like, the only good thing about the Deviations comic... and I'd love it.
Just.
Silverbolt for Screamer, Thrust for Dirge and... Thrust; UW Blast Off for Astrotrain, and...
...
Offroad for Soundwave...?

Works for me!

Woulda been better than Optimus Maximus, or Sky Regin >:oP

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Fri May 06, 2016 9:27 am

The Grand Galvatron set is plainly stated, GDLK.

Anyone else feel that this is the best Classics Cyclonus now?

News Credits: 3604 · by **Seibertron** » Fri May 06, 2016 10:07 am

Counterpunch wrote:The Grand Galvatron set is plainly stated, GDLK.

Anyone else feel that this is the best Classics Cyclonus now?

It's completely the wrong color! Cyclonus should not be blue. I'll stick with my Combiner Wars Cyclonus (though I wish he was closer to G1 Cyclonus or at least a bluer purple instead of a reddish purple). I really like Unite Warriors Cyclonus, he's just flat out the wrong color though. It'd be amazing if it had been purple like he should be.

News Credits: 3604 · by **Seibertron** » Fri May 06, 2016 10:12 am

As promised, here's a Ghost Starscream image with the wings reversed

And here's the "original" Combiner Haunt team

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Fri May 06, 2016 10:20 am

... I mean, Universe Cyclonus...

also holy **** that 'original' team really compounds how insane this set is.
... RIP Inferno

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Fri May 06, 2016 11:05 am

Hellscream9999 wrote:Speaking of missed opportunities, anyone think Hasbro is gonna milk these molds ('seeker' and 'conehead') at all?

I'm surprised they're not. I'm pretty much done with CW, but I'd pick up a Starscream if they released one.

Awesome

News Credits: 15 · by **galvatron00** » Fri May 06, 2016 11:31 am

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Kurona wrote:Megascream and the Megascream combiner were like, the only good thing about the Deviations comic... and I'd love it.
Just.
Silverbolt for Screamer, Thrust for Dirge and... Thrust; UW Blast Off for Astrotrain, and...
...
Offroad for Soundwave...?
Works for me!

That's an awesome idea, and Has/Tak needs to get on that. Last week. ;)^

News Credits: 15 · by **galvatron00** » Fri May 06, 2016 11:32 am

Seibertron wrote:And here's the "original" Combiner Haunt team

Reminds me of that panel in MTMTE when the characters turned into their G1 toys :lol:

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri May 06, 2016 12:29 pm

Cyclonus's blue seems to be from his first appearance in the movie:

And from other points in the cartoon when he was blue, but not as bright and vibrant a blue as hr was in the above movie scene:

The rest of the time, he was inconsistently colored varying shades of purple, including the light lavender that Ryan loathes so much.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Fri May 06, 2016 12:39 pm

Is it just me, or is the debate over Cyclonus and Galvatron's colour scheme becoming the new FIRRIB?

for the record frenzy is blue

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Fri May 06, 2016 12:44 pm

Sabrblade wrote:The rest of the time, he was inconsistently colored varying shades of purple, including the light lavender that Ryan loathes so much.

Cyclonus is just way ahead of his time and sports that rad flip flop periwinkle.

News Credits: 4844 · by **william-james88** » Fri May 06, 2016 2:49 pm

Seibertron wrote:I can't figure out why they did that unless they feel the "wings" in robot mode are more important than the jet mode

Yeah, I think its how the wings look in robot mode. However, its possibly about the head on the mold which I have a tough time understanding since I thoght these heads were on seperate molds anyway. Or else we would have a ton of these secondary heads taking space in a Hasbro warehouse out there.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Roller for the Lost Light

He was never on the lost light .............. :-P

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Oh man, the wings being flipped around like that would have made the Skydive mold even more perfect for Thrust since his original toy and cartoon model had his wings flipped around in robot mode as well. Such a missing opportunity for Hasbro having pretooled the heads to opposite molds.

Speaking of missed opportunities, anyone think Hasbro is gonna milk these molds ('seeker' and 'conehead') at all? Hasbro not using them is so counter to their whole business strategy right now - especially, since they're there already

Just curious, but if they were to make one more seeker, would this mold count a s a seeker mold :-?

Seibertron wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:The Grand Galvatron set is plainly stated, GDLK.
Anyone else feel that this is the best Classics Cyclonus now?

It's completely the wrong color! Cyclonus should not be blue. I'll stick with my Combiner Wars Cyclonus (though I wish he was closer to G1 Cyclonus or at least a bluer purple instead of a reddish purple). I really like Unite Warriors Cyclonus, he's just flat out the wrong color though. It'd be amazing if it had been purple like he should be.

I think Counterpunch was referring to him over Universe Cyclonus. While the scale for CW Cyclonus is a good size and has a great alt mode seen from the top, I much preffer the transformation for Universe cyclonus and his alt mode when seen in a 360 view. I dislike having the entire bot under a flat ship.

News Credits: 3604 · by **Seibertron** » Fri May 06, 2016 2:54 pm

Yah nothing is going to top the amazing universe cyclonus mold. I really like combiner wars cyclonus but the dedicated mold with nightstick is just tough to beat, though that face sculpt on cw cyclonus is pretty awesome.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri May 06, 2016 3:01 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Oh man, the wings being flipped around like that would have made the Skydive mold even more perfect for Thrust since his original toy and cartoon model had his wings flipped around in robot mode as well. Such a missing opportunity for Hasbro having pretooled the heads to opposite molds.

Speaking of missed opportunities, anyone think Hasbro is gonna milk these molds ('seeker' and 'conehead') at all? Hasbro not using them is so counter to their whole business strategy right now - especially, since they're there already

Just curious, but if they were to make one more seeker, would this mold count a s a seeker mold

Not sure what you mean by that, I guess it would count as a variant, I just want a fleet of seekers/coneheads for my galvatronus and Bruticus, nothing else really matters in my books.