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kirbenvost wrote:Dude, that's a freakin' awesome design. I really hope we get a deluxe in the Ironhide scheme.

I hope kip is deluxe and iron hide is voyager

Hotrodimust wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Dude, that's a freakin' awesome design. I really hope we get a deluxe in the Ironhide scheme.

I hope kip is deluxe and iron hide is voyager

That Kup is a redeco of deluxe Ironhide.

RAcast wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Dude, that's a freakin' awesome design. I really hope we get a deluxe in the Ironhide scheme.

I hope kip is deluxe and iron hide is voyager

That Kup is a redeco of deluxe Ironhide.

Even know we haven't seen pics of iron hide they mostlikely are the same figure but I did say I hope

Hotrodimust wrote:

RAcast wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Dude, that's a freakin' awesome design. I really hope we get a deluxe in the Ironhide scheme.

I hope kip is deluxe and iron hide is voyager

That Kup is a redeco of deluxe Ironhide.

Even know we haven't seen pics of iron hide they mostlikely are the same figure but I did say I hope

We have seen pictures of Ironhide, lol. We saw both cyberverse and deluxe Ironhide long before the Kup redeco.

RAcast wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

RAcast wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Dude, that's a freakin' awesome design. I really hope we get a deluxe in the Ironhide scheme.

I hope kip is deluxe and iron hide is voyager

That Kup is a redeco of deluxe Ironhide.

Even know we haven't seen pics of iron hide they mostlikely are the same figure but I did say I hope

We have seen pictures of Ironhide, lol. We saw both cyberverse and deluxe Ironhide long before the Kup redeco.

We've seen Cyberverse Ironhide yes, but when did we see pics of Deluxe Ironhide prior to Deluxe Sergeant Kup?

RAcast wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

RAcast wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Dude, that's a freakin' awesome design. I really hope we get a deluxe in the Ironhide scheme.

I hope kip is deluxe and iron hide is voyager

That Kup is a redeco of deluxe Ironhide.

Even know we haven't seen pics of iron hide they mostlikely are the same figure but I did say I hope

We have seen pictures of Ironhide, lol. We saw both cyberverse and deluxe Ironhide long before the Kup redeco.

I've seen cyberverse but not deluxe and I have no clue how I missed it. And I don't go by cyberverse figures to count on what their deluxe or voyager counter parts look like

Hotrodimust wrote:

RAcast wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

RAcast wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Dude, that's a freakin' awesome design. I really hope we get a deluxe in the Ironhide scheme.

I hope kip is deluxe and iron hide is voyager

That Kup is a redeco of deluxe Ironhide.

Even know we haven't seen pics of iron hide they mostlikely are the same figure but I did say I hope

We have seen pictures of Ironhide, lol. We saw both cyberverse and deluxe Ironhide long before the Kup redeco.

I've seen cyberverse but not deluxe and I have no clue how I missed it. And I don't go by cyberverse figures to count on what their deluxe or voyager counter parts look like

Well...crap, it seems that I'm wrong after all. I could have sworn that we saw the deluxe in Ironhide colors in a scan or something somewhere though...

RAcast wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

RAcast wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

RAcast wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Dude, that's a freakin' awesome design. I really hope we get a deluxe in the Ironhide scheme.

I hope kip is deluxe and iron hide is voyager

That Kup is a redeco of deluxe Ironhide.

Even know we haven't seen pics of iron hide they mostlikely are the same figure but I did say I hope

We have seen pictures of Ironhide, lol. We saw both cyberverse and deluxe Ironhide long before the Kup redeco.

I've seen cyberverse but not deluxe and I have no clue how I missed it. And I don't go by cyberverse figures to count on what their deluxe or voyager counter parts look like

Well...crap, it seems that I'm wrong after all. I could have sworn that we saw the deluxe in Ironhide colors in a scan or something somewhere though...

Even if the Cyberverse figure didn't exist, anyone looking at pictures of Prime Deluxe Kup will see Ironhide. The color may be Kup-ish; but this figure's cues scream "Ironhide".

The figure doesn't make an altogether bad Kup; but I do wish the head sculpt was more distinctive and reminiscent of G1 and/or Generations Kup. In the pictures we've seen, he's got Ironhide's head (or something very close to it); so the whole figure comes off looking like green Ironhide. That's disappointing.

I was able to pick up the Cyberverse Ironhide today; and it's an outstanding addition to this line. I could totally see the Deluxe version of this figure (which I think we will get, even if we get Kup first) being my favorite Ironhide figure Hasbro's produced.

Who cares if this makes a crappy kup, you can't get any better than Generations kup.
I actually don't like this mould that much from what I see. Looks kind of boring. I guess I'm one of the few who actually likes the classics version, with all it's faults.

MINDVVIPE wrote:er, imagine this with those/\ colours:

Godzillabot Primal, do work!

a bit bulky but a good representation of Ironhide, better than bayformers thats for sure

Why couldn't Ironhide have looked like that in the movies? Really hope we see him in Prime WITH Peter Cullen voicing him!!!

I really like the combo of Live Action ,and G1 Ironhide .It is a great design ,I would love to see him in action .He would be a lot better then lame-o Wheeljack .The only issue I have with Transformers Prime ,Don't mess with my Mad Inventor Wheeljack ,and make him Drift with Wheeljack's head . Sorry about the rant .........NOT !!!!

michael alex kawa wrote:I really like the combo of Live Action ,and G1 Ironhide .It is a great design ,I would love to see him in action .He would be a lot better then lame-o Wheeljack .The only issue I have with Transformers Prime ,Don't mess with my Mad Inventor Wheeljack ,and make him Drift with Wheeljack's head . Sorry about the rant .........NOT !!!!

Armada Wheeljack was a turncoat Sideswipe lookalike.

Plus, Prime Wheeljack did used to be a mechanic for the Wreckers, but has since come to fully embrace his warrior side (losing so many of his comrades also doesn't help matters). A lot can happen to a guy over a span of eons.

Sabrblade wrote:

michael alex kawa wrote:I really like the combo of Live Action ,and G1 Ironhide .It is a great design ,I would love to see him in action .He would be a lot better then lame-o Wheeljack .The only issue I have with Transformers Prime ,Don't mess with my Mad Inventor Wheeljack ,and make him Drift with Wheeljack's head . Sorry about the rant .........NOT !!!!

Armada Wheeljack was a turncoat Sideswipe lookalike.

Plus, Prime Wheeljack used to be a mechanic for the Wrecekrs, but has since come to fully embrace his warrior side (losing so many of his comrades also doens't help matters). A lot can happen to a guy over a span of eons.

Besides, prime jackies amazing. And the toy is definitely one of the better prid figures except maybe vehicon. Dun b hatin on prime jackie.

Hope cullen voiced hide if he gets in though.

They made wheel jack a wrecker in the show if he was an inventor still it really wouldn't fit. And wheeljack is my second favorite autobot and I like how he is in the show but I kinda wish he still had the light up things on the side of his head when he talked but only when he has his mask up because it would look funny with him mouth moving

Hotrodimust wrote:They made wheel jack a wrecker in the show if he was an inventor still it really wouldn't fit.

Well, the Wreckers need a guy to fix their stuff and make their weapons and such. Wheeljack used to do that way back when.

Ya but that's ratchets job now he's mr fix it

Hotrodimust wrote:Ya but that's ratchets job now he's mr fix it

The Wreckers were their own unit who acted outside the system of authority. They would have had to had had their own resources and such.

Plus, they stayed behind on Cybertron when the Ark departed (which Ratchet was aboard), so there's no way Ratchet could have been there for them.

Sabrblade wrote:Armada Wheeljack was a turncoat Sideswipe lookalike.

For what it's worth, that character has no relation to any other WJ. It's not even an homage. I suspect the name was just chosen due to availability. The character Downshift, the Wheeljack homage from Energon/Cybertron, was called WJ in Japan.

From UT Downshift's page:
"The Japanese version of the character was to be called "Downshift" (ダウンシフト Daunshifuto), like the English version, till he was renamed "Wheeljack" in accordance with the homage he became during the design phase. "

And I gonna agree with the popular sentiment about Prime Wheeljack. It sat a little strange with me at first, that they basically turned him into Drift, but after I saw the episode my complaints disappeared. He's a pretty great character.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Ya but that's ratchets job now he's mr fix it

The Wreckers were their own unit who acted outside the system of authority. They would have had to had had their own resources and such.

Plus, they stayed behind on Cybertron when the Ark departed (which Ratchet was aboard), so there's no way Ratchet could have been there for them.

Yes I know but we are talking about the prime show not g1 or the comic books. So ratchet is mr fix it on the show they don't need two characters like that. And I don't need to be informed about what's what in the TFs universe I seen the original in theaters and when I was a kid g1 was on shelves I'm not one of the new kids that got into it because of the movies I know my ****. Well maybe not the uk stuff or Japanese shows because I don't like reading while watching a movie it just dosnt make sence to me lol. But thank you anyways

Hotrodimust wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Ya but that's ratchets job now he's mr fix it

The Wreckers were their own unit who acted outside the system of authority. They would have had to had had their own resources and such.

Plus, they stayed behind on Cybertron when the Ark departed (which Ratchet was aboard), so there's no way Ratchet could have been there for them.

Yes I know but we are talking about the prime show not g1 or the comic books. So ratchet is mr fix it on the show they don't need two characters like that.

And I'm not talking about G1 either. I'm talking about Prime. Ratchet left Cybertron aboard the Ark while the Wreckers stayed behind on the Dark Energon-infested planet.

And, what do you mean by "two characters like that"? Ratchet's a medic, who specializes in healing. Wheeljack was a n inventor/engineer, who specialized in weapon/gadget design and maintenance. Those are two different professions.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Ya but that's ratchets job now he's mr fix it

The Wreckers were their own unit who acted outside the system of authority. They would have had to had had their own resources and such.

Plus, they stayed behind on Cybertron when the Ark departed (which Ratchet was aboard), so there's no way Ratchet could have been there for them.

Yes I know but we are talking about the prime show not g1 or the comic books. So ratchet is mr fix it on the show they don't need two characters like that.

And I'm not talking about G1 either. I'm talking about Prime. Ratchet left Cybertron aboard the Ark while the Wreckers stayed behind on the Dark Energon-infested planet.

And, what do you mean by "two characters like that"? Ratchet's a medic, who specializes in healing. Wheeljack was a n inventor/engineer, who specialized in weapon/gadget design and maintenance. Those are two different professions.

Lol why do I even bother there are 6 autobots on the show lets make 2 of them the guys that stay at base. Your thinking about this the wrong way plus there is Raph who's computer smarts and ratchet seems to be an inventor to since he built the ground bridge. It's not what could make sence it's what works for the show and it's limited characters it's not like g1 with a bunch of bots everywhere and it's a kid show we don't wanna confuse them right lol

Hotrodimust wrote:Lol why do I even bother there are 6 autobots on the show lets make 2 of them the guys that stay at base. Your thinking about this the wrong way plus there is Raph who's computer smarts and ratchet seems to be an inventor to since he built the ground bridge. It's not what could make sence it's what works for the show and it's limited characters it's not like g1 with a bunch of bots everywhere and it's a kid show we don't wanna confuse them right lol

All I'm saying is that Prime Wheeljack used to be an engineer for the Wreckers, but isn't anymore. While Ratchet may have some tech smarts, it isn't his primary function.

After Ratchet left Cybertron on the Ark, Wheeljack was the guy the Wreckers turned to for gizmos and weaponry. But, that's in the past since he's grown to be more of a warrior now. None of this comes from G1 or comic books or whatever. It's all in the continuity of TF: Prime.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Lol why do I even bother there are 6 autobots on the show lets make 2 of them the guys that stay at base. Your thinking about this the wrong way plus there is Raph who's computer smarts and ratchet seems to be an inventor to since he built the ground bridge. It's not what could make sence it's what works for the show and it's limited characters it's not like g1 with a bunch of bots everywhere and it's a kid show we don't wanna confuse them right lol

All I'm saying is that Prime Wheeljack used to be an engineer for the Wreckers, but isn't anymore. While Ratchet may have some tech smarts, it isn't his primary function.

After Ratchet left Cybertron on the Ark, Wheeljack was the guy the Wreckers turned to for gizmos and weaponry. But, that's in the past since he's grown to be more of a warrior now. None of this comes from G1 or comic books or whatever. It's all in the continuity of TF: Prime.

Do they make a comic book with like back stories or something because the only stuff I know about wheeljack is from the show they don't say that much about him. If so I would like to read it because the only thing TFs to read now is the 2 new series from IDW plus autocracy and it's not enuff to keep me satisfied lol. I do have to finish exodus it's hard to get into it since I kinda know the story.