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Derrick Wyatt's gotta be psyched about this.

As a rule, I WILL always get the official figure if and when HasTak releases it, even if I've gotten a quality KO.

I'm trying to remember if that's actually EVER happened to me, though. *hurts brain thinking*

gothsaurus wrote:As a rule, I WILL always get the official figure if and when HasTak releases it, even if I've gotten a quality KO.

I'm trying to remember if that's actually EVER happened to me, though. *hurts brain thinking*

It's happened to me once with the high quality KO Ratbat and Frenzy(?, the blue cassette) two pack. I bought the Encores of them because official product will always win out. I had assumed, along with a large number of the fandom, that the Rumble and Frenzy molds were gone for good. I always wanted Rumble as a kid from the cartoon. Call him Frenzy all you like, he'll always be Rumble to me. So I bought the KOs.

I've always wanted a set of Dinocassettes. I may still not pick them up though, got more important things to buy.

Amelie wrote:*sighs* Getting Overkill to go with Slugfest is going to be a minefield now.

I don't mind KOs, but its when they're packaged in replica boxes\backing cards that I get annoyed. I know a lot of people like the KOs because of this, but its starting to make vintage collecting a dangerous, depressing affair.

We all know it won't be long before people start adding wear and crumpling the boxes, or deliberatly sunfading a bit to disguise it further as well.

i agree, this totally blows. i'm happy that people will now be able to afford the Dinos because the aftermarket prices are way out of control, but i do wish that they would change the packaging and toys just a little bit. i only buy originals unless it's a completely new design or size (like the Perfect Effect Reflector or iGear Mini MP Primes). things like this make it so much harder to purchase anything, especially when it's a very, very high priced item and on Ebay where you can't examine it closely with your own eyes. oh well, crap happens.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Friggin'. Sweet.

I might not buy them from KO Toys, but these bad boys will definately be mine when they're released. But I think I'll still get a vintige BeastBox and GrandSlam instead of the KOs of those.

If your going to buy them you might as well buy them from kotoys because the owner of the site is the one whose having the cassettes Koed. The guy's planning on selling the dino cassettes at about $40.00 + shipping a set. Wait 'till a scalper gets there hands on some and you'll be lucky if you find them for less than $100.

Crisdecal wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Friggin'. Sweet.

I might not buy them from KO Toys, but these bad boys will definately be mine when they're released. But I think I'll still get a vintige BeastBox and GrandSlam instead of the KOs of those.

If your going to buy them you might as well buy them from kotoys because the owner of the site is the one whose having the cassettes Koed. The guy's planning on selling the dino cassettes at about $40.00 + shipping a set. Wait 'till a scalper gets there hands on some and you'll be lucky if you find them for less than $100.

i agree, if you are going to get them, why wouldn't you buy them direct from KO Toys?

I am disappointed they're going with KOs of the Packaging along with the figures.

I'm still going to get the Dinocassettes though.

billprestonesquire wrote:i agree, if you are going to get them, why wouldn't you buy them direct from KO Toys?

There are a million reasons not to buy from KO Toys...

billprestonesquire wrote:

Crisdecal wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Friggin'. Sweet.

I might not buy them from KO Toys, but these bad boys will definately be mine when they're released. But I think I'll still get a vintige BeastBox and GrandSlam instead of the KOs of those.

If your going to buy them you might as well buy them from kotoys because the owner of the site is the one whose having the cassettes Koed. The guy's planning on selling the dino cassettes at about $40.00 + shipping a set. Wait 'till a scalper gets there hands on some and you'll be lucky if you find them for less than $100.

i agree, if you are going to get them, why wouldn't you buy them direct from KO Toys?

At the time KO Toys was giving me some problems with an order and I was feeling frustrated.

But those problems have been cleared up, so I guess I'll give KO Toys another shot. However, I doubt this is a "KO Toys exclucive". Many people sell these sort of knock ofs.

I've wondered if the KO dino cassettes have been around for a little bit. I thought they were rare but I am surprised to see a few every month on eBay MIB.

I was lucky years ago to find & buy Dairu loose with his guns in Japanese manga shop. the remaining dino cassettes have been on the top of my list to find.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

billprestonesquire wrote:i agree, if you are going to get them, why wouldn't you buy them direct from KO Toys?

There are a million reasons not to buy from KO Toys...

well, thanks for clearing that up for me. your answer makes so much sense.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

billprestonesquire wrote:

Crisdecal wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Friggin'. Sweet.

I might not buy them from KO Toys, but these bad boys will definately be mine when they're released. But I think I'll still get a vintige BeastBox and GrandSlam instead of the KOs of those.

If your going to buy them you might as well buy them from kotoys because the owner of the site is the one whose having the cassettes Koed. The guy's planning on selling the dino cassettes at about $40.00 + shipping a set. Wait 'till a scalper gets there hands on some and you'll be lucky if you find them for less than $100.

i agree, if you are going to get them, why wouldn't you buy them direct from KO Toys?

At the time KO Toys was giving me some problems with an order and I was feeling frustrated.

But those problems have been cleared up, so I guess I'll give KO Toys another shot. However, I doubt this is a "KO Toys exclucive". Many people sell these sort of knock ofs.

now that actually makes sense.

Stormrider wrote:I've wondered if the KO dino cassettes have been around for a little bit. I thought they were rare but I am surprised to see a few every month on eBay MIB.

I was lucky years ago to find & buy Dairu loose with his guns in Japanese manga shop. the remaining dino cassettes have been on the top of my list to find.

This. Doesn't anyone remember the KO Cyclonus? That went a while undetected.

The problem I'm seeing on these is that the Packaging sample looks worn like what you'd expect from a vintage box. If this is the case then the vintage market is in trouble.

billprestonesquire wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

billprestonesquire wrote:i agree, if you are going to get them, why wouldn't you buy them direct from KO Toys?

There are a million reasons not to buy from KO Toys...

well, thanks for clearing that up for me. your answer makes so much sense.

A little research would show you that that makes perfect sense.

I've heard so many horror stories about buying from them that I avoid them. hey got a couple things I want for some customs, but dealing with them is not worth the trouble.

robofreak wrote:

billprestonesquire wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

billprestonesquire wrote:i agree, if you are going to get them, why wouldn't you buy them direct from KO Toys?

There are a million reasons not to buy from KO Toys...

well, thanks for clearing that up for me. your answer makes so much sense.

A little research would show you that that makes perfect sense.

I've heard so many horror stories about buying from them that I avoid them. hey got a couple things I want for some customs, but dealing with them is not worth the trouble.

well now, that IS an actual answer that makes sense and explains something.

i have done much "research" and "studying" on vintage toys but mostly on all things Pre-TF's. it's all explained in my personal collection thread down below. i APOLOGIZE that i haven't researched everything there is to know about toy collecting and KO's in general. i don't really buy KO replicas that often except the iGear Primes, Perfect Effect Reflector, and Junkion Blacksmith Headmaster Prime (and the last two aren't really replicas, more like 3rd party figures). SO, i wouldn't have really had the opportunity to "research" KO Toys. i posed a question and you initially gave a non-answer.

don't misunderstand the sarcasm, i do appreciate the clarification. it's just that you first answer explained nothing.

Has/tak should have reissued these with the other cassettes, And i cannot afford the originals so it looks like this is my only chance of owning these!

billprestonesquire wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

billprestonesquire wrote:i agree, if you are going to get them, why wouldn't you buy them direct from KO Toys?

There are a million reasons not to buy from KO Toys...

well, thanks for clearing that up for me. your answer makes so much sense.

Let's just say that KO should stand for Krazy Owner.

I'll have to jump in to say everything I've gotten from them has been amazing quality... on par with Takara and Hasbro. Paint, plastic, packaging all fantastic. I can see being critical of them making KOs, but not the quality. (???)

I just appreciate someone going to the trouble to put out the holy-grail toys we all want. I'm still puzzled why HasTak won't pull the strings to make these... the dino cassettes, the animal headmasters, Artfire, etc.

Those characters should be available for a reasonable price... and $1000 for a one inch toy isn't reasonable.

Saw a lot of the dino sets for sale at botcon for $2500. Glad I read this post...made me very skeptical, especially at this one vendor's booth where everything else was clearly Repo G1 stuff in the repo G1 packaging. Hopefully someone doesnt get suckered into buying a KO.

Sorry to bump an older topic, but; Has there been an update on this of late?

I'll never understand why Hasbro or Takara don't intervene an put an end to these. Especially when these KOs are being released in authentic style packaging and with the trademark stamp still intact. It really makes trying to collect vintage toys a difficult proposition. You'd think they'd want to protect their brand.

gothsaurus wrote:
Those characters should be available for a reasonable price... and $1000 for a one inch toy isn't reasonable.

i hear that one man, lemme get a fortress maximus now! id sink a couple hundo on it.

I'm not worried about the copyright or logo on my toy, i like them for what they are, not for how much cash Hasbro can get.i don't think they're to worried about it, considering how much loot they've got thrown at them for making a series of movies reminiscent of recent car commercials. i am, however, in disagreement of sellers trying to make a buck of the fans of these toys. i have a pretty large g1 collection and i'd be pissed to find out there were KO's amongst them.

Pre-Order is up guys. along with some final pics

I'm going to wait until all four Dinocombiners are ready to go. I'd rather wait, pay, and get them all at once than two at a time.

Still, these guys ... it's amazing that we're getting them. Normally, I don't care for KOs, but for the Dinocombiners I shall spend.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'm going to wait until all four Dinocombiners are ready to go. I'd rather wait, pay, and get them all at once than two at a time.

Still, these guys ... it's amazing that we're getting them. Normally, I don't care for KOs, but for the Dinocombiners I shall spend.

you'll have to wait for some time then.. first these two get released, then slamdance and sqwakbox and only after that the other two cassettrons.. on and there might be some recolors in the middle messing up the schedule