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News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:26 pm

Interesting. I probably won't get the Kup remold, but the Scourge one is intriguing. It does look a lot like Senator Ratbat, I guess we'll see.

by **RiddlerJ** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:32 pm

Maybe Scourge will be Bombburst.

News Credits: 1 · by **Colinus Maximus** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:12 pm

Call me crazy, but before reading all the Leozack/Ratbat comments the first vibe I got off of not-Scourge was Devcon. Maybe just wishful thinking.

News Credits: 36 · by **Pretender Skywarp** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:34 pm

Ok, for whats it's worth I'm actually seeing G1-Skids on the not-Kup sheet, especially after the front-on close up posted on the previous page.

As for not-Scourge, the only thing I can see (for some odd reason) when I look, is Jaruga, but since he wasn't a jet it's highly unlikely!!

by **Valandar** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:03 pm

Maybe Kupp's remold is Micromaster Big Hauler?

http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/BigHau ... hauler.htm

As for it being Skids... I dunno. (G1) Skids has more of a square head, with almost horns on the side. His head more resembles G1 Sideswipe than what we're seeing there.

by **vladimir-pocket** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:51 pm

Pretender Skywarp wrote:Ok, for whats it's worth I'm actually seeing G1-Skids on the not-Kup sheet, especially after the front-on close up posted on the previous page.

As for not-Scourge, the only thing I can see (for some odd reason) when I look, is Jaruga, but since he wasn't a jet it's highly unlikely!!

you beat me too it. i was looking through tfwiki today and saw G1 skids and thought it might be possible

he still looks odd though any chance its a new character released under RTS?

News Credits: 1 · by **jlogano20** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:10 pm

Blurrz wrote:It's happened with Tomahawk, Terradive, Darkmount to Skullgrin, Lockdown to Axor, Bumblebee to Cliffjumper, and Thunderwing to Black Shadow (Cross your fingers), so why stop now? Instructions for both upcoming Generations figures, Kup and Scourge, have landed on Hasbro.com. Seibertron.com member El Duque notifies us that their heads certainly do not look like either Kup or Scourge, so we can only assume that these instructions tell a tale of a future remold. Check them out below!

Scourge

forgot to ass lugnut to the list

Kup

In the future, if your Kup and Scourge do not come with instructions, be sure to bookmark the links too!

Seibertron.com - The Ultimate Transformers Resource!

News Credits: 4 · by **Megazarak** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:19 pm

I'm thinking it's definitely Senator Ratbat for Scourge and it would make a lot of sense for Kup's remold to be Orion Pax. Kup's original figure was repainted into Orion and the head does look pretty similar in my opinion. I hope they both get new weapons to fit better with their characters as well.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:20 pm

I saw those and thought Slugslinger and Hotshot. I do like some of the other suggestions put forth so far though.

by **ausbot** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:43 pm

Before i saw not-kup had a mouth i was thinking X-brawn!

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:21 pm

Hmm... Nothing comes to mind. Scourge's alternate head reminds me of some Japanese Transformer, much like Black Shadow. Kup's, I'm not sure either, but it definitely has an Autobot-esque head. :???:

News Credits: 6 · by **Jenus** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:34 pm

The Kup mold I'm not really sure on, but I'm sure the new head mold on Scourge is Mindwipe and not Ratbat or Leozack. We already got a Ratbat figure in the Universe 2.0 line up with Springer.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:40 pm

gotta admit there, I totally forgot that Mindwipe sometimes has a head in robot mode.

by **vladimir-pocket** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:46 pm

RATBAT

(made in 3 muinets with windows paint

)

News Credits: 3 · by **Bradimus** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:15 pm

Not-Scourge seems to fit Senator Ratbat.

Not-Kup seems to fit G1 Skids. http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Skids_%28G1%29

* Skids (3D Battle-Card, 2007)

A 26-point "common" character in the 3D Battle-Card Game's "Energon Wars" expansion, Skids "transforms" into a grey pickup truck of indeterminate make. He uses the same parts layout as movieverse Ironhide and Dropkick.

Between the pics and the card game character bio, Skids seems to fit best.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:00 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Mkall wrote:
TeletranPrime wrote:Does anyone know why Hasbro keeps making this "mistake"?

I think it's being done on purpose actually.

Yeah, to save money on Instruction Sheets by reusing art and only changing the name.

Plus, it generates interest among the fanbase for what might be coming out. (See the last 7 pages of this thread.)

Any chance Scourge might be Jhiaxus? I know Terradive matches the color scheme of KB Store Exclusive Jhiaxus, but the not Scourge head looks a little like Jhiaxus. And aren't we supposed to be getting a Jhiaxus, or was that complete speculation?

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:10 pm

I can't say for either of them. I personally love Ratbat from Universe 2.0, but a I'd get a new one too.

by **Ungie** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:15 pm

The Kup head is screaming Orion Pax to me, not a clue for Scourge...

by **hipermegatron7** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:16 pm

I think the scourge could be ratbat or mindwipe , it would be cool if is mindwipe , he had wings like this scourge , but is head sculp looks more like ratbat :-(

by **Shadowstream** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:39 pm

Victory Leo and Holi

.....

what? everyone else is pulling stuff out their ass.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:36 pm

LOST Cybertronian wrote:The head on Kup looks very plain like not even Hasbro is sure who it's going to be. The head on Scourge definitely has an animal look to it.

Holy crap!!! why didn't I see this before?!?! I finally have figured out who the mystery character from the Scourge mold might be! My best speculation is TERRORSAUR!!! Or not, but hey, good guess, right?

EDIT; Ignore what I said above. After taking another look at his head, I thought better of myself. Oops. :lol:

I guess my new guess will have to be shared like 90% of the Seibertron community; Ratbat. I would really like that alot. :lol:

News Credits: 5 · by **Oilspill** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:27 pm

Why does everyone say the Kup head is 'screaming' Orion Pax to them? In the cartoon, he looks like this:

Which doesn't seem to even close to the head sculpt we're looking at. Is there another Orion Pax I should be looking checking out? Did the G1 Kup repaint have a new head or something?

Oh, I just checked the repaint out, but it just has Kup's head.

News Credits: 4 · by **Megazarak** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:17 pm

Oilspill wrote:Why does everyone say the Kup head is 'screaming' Orion Pax to them? In the cartoon, he looks like this:

Which doesn't seem to even close to the head sculpt we're looking at. Is there another Orion Pax I should be looking checking out? Did the G1 Kup repaint have a new head or something?

Oh, I just checked the repaint out, but it just has Kup's head.

I think the similarity is pretty close. Not quite as close as the Scourge head remold to Senator Ratbat, but some similarities. I would say it could pass off as a reimagining of Orion, which I hope it is. However, I think most people think that it is Orion because Kup was repainted into him, and it would be cool if they also did that with Generations Kup.

News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:47 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Mkall wrote:
TeletranPrime wrote:Does anyone know why Hasbro keeps making this "mistake"?

I think it's being done on purpose actually.

Yeah, to save money on Instruction Sheets by reusing art and only changing the name.

But why do they consistently use the later remolds? Especially with bots like Lockdown and Lugnut, where the mold seem specifically designed for them?

News Credits: 36 · by **Pretender Skywarp** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:53 am

Ok, this is way, way out of the left field, but what if (and this is a massive if), Hasbro had been trawling through the archives and finally decided to give the as-yet-still-unamed-18yrs-on, Euro exclusive Rescue Force Jet a homage?

Just sayin.....

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