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[R0cl9nk]

Well, watched it.

>Computron remains combined despite 2 of the component bots being sliced off
Why.
>menasor does the same with breakdown chopped off
>Cybertron has 2 visible moons (despite the whole missing moon thing) which is impossible if we're to believe this is IDW universe
>Voice acting seems poorly cast, emotionally wooden and appears as though delivered to match the existing lip flaps, leaving it feeling awkward and unnatural
>Animation flits between different degrees of jerky between shots
>as the review rightly points out, no context given for much of the 'story' we get through, much of it seems to be at odds with current IDW continuity
>5 minute episode format which feels like the cold opening of any TV show, it ends when you're left feeling the opening theme should just be kicking in.

I'm struggling to find things I like, and I wanted to like this.

I'm just left feeling confused. It feels like when you get a cone from the ice cream truck, only to have the icecream fall off as you move in for your first bite, leaving you sullen and holding an empty, dripping cone in your hand.

Is this it's entire own microcontinuity separate from IDW and the Toy Bios?

You bring up a lot of good points and I have similar concerns for this series. I have seen the first four episodes and the story gains a bit more traction in the second episode. Sadly though Windblade still sounds more like a whiny teenager lashing out than she does a warrior hell-bent on revenge.

The thing I'm worried about the most is the five minute format. The time constraint doesn't allow for enough time to dive deep into either the characters or their arcs. That said episode one is the weakest of the bunch.

I do like the animation style even though it does seem to stutter at times. The series also so far (four episodes in) does a great job adding weight and gravitas to the Cybertronian civil war and the players involved e.g Optimus Prime, Starscream and a few others (trying to avoid spoilers).

[william-james88]

It's a case of "Dumbshizzlsnit didn't read the thread" disease

Hey man, I totally get the confusion. There was an IDW combiner Wars comic, Windblade was in it, so one plus one makes two. But I guess since that story did happen and they didnt want the pressure of having things tie in directly, it was safer to just say that it was its own microcontinuity.

[Sarahthecutevixen]

ohh what bloody hell did i watch? The animation was choppy and Go90's audio kept skipping and freezing,

[Sarahthecutevixen]

ohh what bloody hell did i watch? The animation was choppy and Go90's audio kept skipping and freezing,

[Kurona]

... I have seen the first four episodes...

Wait hold up say WHAT now
Where have you seen the other three episodes???

[kurthy]

I forgot these were basically short clips. All said and done, this is going to feel like half a season of RvB without the storytelling or fart jokes.

[Burn]

I have to say, for a five minute episode, I liked it. I definitely preferred this style of animation over say TF:Animated. Voices? I have no complaints about that either.

Bring on the rest of the episodes so we can see where this is going.

[Sabrblade]

... I have seen the first four episodes...

Wait hold up say WHAT now
Where have you seen the other three episodes???

Maybe he's got internal connections or something. Best not to look into it.

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[o.supreme]

Does Masterforce count as G1 cartoon to you?

I know you were asking another directly...but I didn't want to be lumped in with that. so...to me it does, but then again I have some pretty crazy Ideas I'm coming to find out.

To me, everything from the original series, through the Japanese series, and BW/BM is all one continuity, kind of like Gundams Universal Century. Everything from CR/RiD on are separate continuities, like the various Gundam series from G Gundam on. The only thing is unlike Gundam Unicorn which returned to the UC. We have not returned to "Original Transformers" timeline since BM.

Just wanted to make sure I don't get lumped in with others. Sure I prefer my original Transformers, but I recognize others are good when they do come along.

[Autobot N]

That................was horrible.

[Deadput]

This is what we were waiting for this whole time!?

They killed the "remember the new guy" and friggen Menasor in the first episode!


THE FIRST EPISODE!!!


And I am assuming that the Combiners are going to be treated as full characters instead of a well combiner of other Characters.


Then again their budget probably went to mostly animation which looks damn crap running at 30 FPS or something.

[Deadput]

This is easily the best Transformers cartoon to come out in the last 30 years. But I have to admit that a pretty low bar has been set since the original G1 went off the air.

Of course you would like it since your mister I hate everything not from the cheesy 80's.

[partholon]

im in ireland meself and just watched it there.

i dunno.

it seems a bit "off" or something. more to do with direction than art style. there were times when menasor and computron were hitting eachother in free fall where they looked to have no mass at all.

i do like the style. the colour palate is interesting and its got a nice anime feel to it.

i found menasors voice weird though. in fact bar computron they all sounded a bit "teenagery" .

the five minute time scale threw me too. i'd forgotten all about that and thought i was looking at a promo piece.



having to make it fit that format makes it seem a bit abrupt or something, still as a fan im interested enough to keep watching other episodes. not sure anyone thats just a casual viewer would feel the same though as theres not much "hook" to it.

[Deadput]

Sorry for the multiple posts but I'm so disappointed by this.

A show is supposed to get people invested in the first episode and if it fails to do that then it's unlikely to get any better.


And holy crap I was pretty ok with Windblade from the comics and rid but this Windblade was so damn edgy and angsty I felt like I was watching an animated bad fanfic.


That's what this show is a very badly made fanfic.

[R0cl9nk]

... I have seen the first four episodes...

Wait hold up say WHAT now
Where have you seen the other three episodes???

Machinima/Hasbro sent them to me to review. One of the perks of my journalism degree - sadly there aren't many of them.

[Deadput]

Machinima/Hasbro sent them to me to review. One of the perks of my journalism degree - sadly there aren't many of them.

Well congrats it's a good feeling to have a job where you can get some things earlier then others!


well hope you enjoy them!

[Burn]

A show is supposed to get people invested in the first episode and if it fails to do that then it's unlikely to get any better.

Most episodes also run more than five minutes. I think people (not necessarily you) are being too quick to write this off just on five minutes.

For those who aren't impressed, may I suggest until waiting for all episodes to be released then watch them in one sitting? You might find it more enjoyable then maybe?

[Spider 001]

THIS VIDEO IS NOT AVAILABLE

WTF?

[MemphisR56]

A show is supposed to get people invested in the first episode and if it fails to do that then it's unlikely to get any better.

Most episodes also run more than five minutes. I think people (not necessarily you) are being too quick to write this off just on five minutes.

For those who aren't impressed, may I suggest until waiting for all episodes to be released then watch them in one sitting? You might find it more enjoyable then maybe?

I'm planning to do that. I do *want* to enjoy it. I'm just not wowed by it so far.
I don't think I've been unfair to it, or even particularly scathing.

[ScottyP]

With all these hot takes in here, I'm worried I'm going to burn my crotch if anything spills. I'm tempted to go re-name this thread the Combiner Wars Panic Room.

This is what, 1/8th of what boils down to being a < one hour, one-off special? Either way, what most of us have seen so far is five minutes of content that, to me, was just fine as a "watch this in my car on this mobile app while eating lunch" experience. While there were some things I didn't really like there were also good moments and I'm not ready to go all in on some opinion one way or another based on the tiny clip of this short special that's 'aired'.

Hopefully Hasbro learns a lesson here about how to set fan expectations though, because there was clearly a disconnect.

edit: would just like to mention that I started writing this before Burn made his post. Didn't purposely intend to post a different version of the same thing!

[Kurona]

A show is supposed to get people invested in the first episode and if it fails to do that then it's unlikely to get any better.

Most episodes also run more than five minutes. I think people (not necessarily you) are being too quick to write this off just on five minutes.

For those who aren't impressed, may I suggest until waiting for all episodes to be released then watch them in one sitting? You might find it more enjoyable then maybe?

There's a chance for anything to get better and I'm not writing it off just yet - I'm just saying that this episode was really terrible. I'm hoping for something that lives up to what interested me about the Starscream Prelude; a new and interesting take on a character that we think we've seen everything of already. That's been the best part of this series so far imo

[Sabrblade]

THIS VIDEO IS NOT AVAILABLE

WTF?

U.S. residents watch it on Go90. Everyone outside the U.S. gets the YouTube video.

[Sunstar]

For those who aren't impressed, may I suggest until waiting for all episodes to be released then watch them in one sitting? You might find it more enjoyable then maybe?

QFT. I will definately be giving it the benefit of the doubt.

[Sabrblade]

A show is supposed to get people invested in the first episode and if it fails to do that then it's unlikely to get any better.

Most episodes also run more than five minutes. I think people (not necessarily you) are being too quick to write this off just on five minutes.

For those who aren't impressed, may I suggest until waiting for all episodes to be released then watch them in one sitting? You might find it more enjoyable then maybe?

To be fair, though, how many are writing off the whole show based on this one episode rather than just writing off this one episode on its own?