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I would love to see an MP Jetfire! I've always loved him since I first saw his origin episode, and he's quickly gaining a spotlight in my collection now that I have 3 versions (Titanium, Classics, Robot Masters).

The CG one is nice but a little too blocky in general, especially in the arms and legs. I'd like to see something based on Don's designs but of course an MP is supposed to be based on the cartoon. I just hope they include all the cool extras.

I still need to get a G1 Jetfire, he (and his Macross siblings) are amazingly cool.

kirbenvost wrote:I would love to see an MP Jetfire! I've always loved him since I first saw his origin episode, and he's quickly gaining a spotlight in my collection now that I have 3 versions (Titanium, Classics, Robot Masters).

The CG one is nice but a little too blocky in general, especially in the arms and legs. I'd like to see something based on Don's designs but of course an MP is supposed to be based on the cartoon. I just hope they include all the cool extras.


I still need to get a G1 Jetfire, he (and his Macross siblings) are amazingly cool.

I guess accuracy and design are in th eye of the beholder.. Look at all the changes made in Starscream's mold, or Optimus Prime's and Megatron's.. it was for "Realism" purposes.. if they went by the cartoon design solely, it would end up being a boring toy all together.. like ultra Magnus.. i'd much rather see a magnus based on this cg render.. then the original or just the cartoon..







That's what i'm talkin about!!!

A masterpiece skyfire/jetfire would be nice if they could do it right and have all the armor piece on him. Also I think a complete ultra magnus would be nice with trailer armor and the whole nine yards would be cool if they can give prime his trailer why not ultra magnus.

shortround wrote:A masterpiece skyfire/jetfire would be nice if they could do it right and have all the armor piece on him. Also I think a complete ultra magnus would be nice with trailer armor and the whole nine yards would be cool if they can give prime his trailer why not ultra magnus.

Agreed, and if they do an Ultra Magnus and Skyfire they should also be bigger then the rest of the Masterpieces.. similar to those cgi renders portrayal..Ultra Magnus should be larger then prime, he's wearing armor for God's sake, adn Skyfire is one of the Largest Transformers in the show or line so he should be bigger as well...the DinoBots are also in that class category.. not that all of them should be enormous but they should be atleast a few more milimeters taller then the others that have been released.. which would work well in the Masterpiece line up as a good definition of scale..

SKywarp2, STOP WITH CGI RENDERS. You're making me wish they were real and cry cause they're not made yet.

Maybe for the Decepticons they went for realism. If they would release another MP Autobot, I hope its designed like Prime, with the cartoon and 1986 Movie in mind.

Kanyon wrote:SKywarp2, STOP WITH CGI RENDERS. You're making me wish they were real and cry cause they're not made yet.

Unfortunately I can't do anymore renders in these posts cause I don't want to get into trouble for too much images being added in, but I will say that those cgi renders do make it easy to see how an actual Masterpiece might look..

olokin wrote:Maybe for the Decepticons they went for realism. If they would release another MP Autobot, I hope its designed like Prime, with the cartoon and 1986 Movie in mind.

Well, I think the whole "Based off the cartoon" thing isd kinda overrated..I mean, look what people's response to some of the updated design that IDW and Dreamwave created for the series.. it's really a spectacular job of giving us something that is a little more realistic in terms of Machine transformations and detail..

I know this is an unpopular view I'm about to take and all but, I think that a Masterpiece Grimlock this early in the series would be desaterous, and that Takara Tomy should give us more Autobot Molds, I mean, they are certainly getting their money's worth with the repaints of the seekers and they certainly got what they needed out of Prime's mold, as did Hasbro..

Grimlock just seems as an unlikely choice for the next "Non Seeker" Masterpiece... I feel as if either Ultra Magnus or Rodimus will be next.. since afterall Rodimus was the next, in the Japanese terms, "Supreme Commander" which is why I see him coming.. then again their roots into the Samurai and Gundam give me the impression that Ultra Magnus complete may also be around the corner..

Skyfire is likely because I know that in Japan they are quite taken with Giant spaceship and airplane designs.. and even though Skyfire takes alot of his initial designs from that of Macross and Robotech, his overall evolution over time has turned him into a specially designed robot and spacejet that has never really been created with the majestic stature and detailing due.

I think the Classics Jetfire is pretty good, but a part of me still wants a Masterpiece, with that engineering flare and detailing you can't get anywhere else, then with the Masterpiece toys from Takara Tomy...Sigh..

Here is an intersting custom i found, though closer in scale to what he was portrayed in the cartoon, he's definitely too big for Takara to produce in high numbers in the Masterpiece line up, unlesss you want to pay 250.00 for an MP.. the size expansion I was suggesting is no where near as big as that..but then again, it wouldn't be too bad to have him that size, the legs look a bit short but overall nice job to the unknown creator, as long as Omega supreme and other giants like Devestator ended up that size as well.. but that's purely a fantasy...

That should be cartoon accurate enough for ya olokin.. I still say the CGI render and this custom need to be combined for a completely cool Masterpiece.. not too cartoony, and not too overly mecha-ish with detailing but not too much...



One thing I will note about this custom, besides the shorter legs, is that the designer should have made the booster Jetpack with the capability to slide up and lock into place on his back while in botmode, since the boosters are sticking out behind his legs and the top of the jetpack are effectively coming up from behind his head.. in this image the booster pack is sitting too low on his back..



still i would rather own a Masterpiece Skyfire then the classics Jetfire.. I'm turning into a completist, with a few choice figures from Unicron trilogy and RID, mainly collecting MP's, Movie lines, and Beast Wars reissues..

The one thing that they would have to do with skyfire/jetfire that is a must is have a way to change his symbol for decepticon to autobot because started out as decepticon and changed to a autobot.

I guess for me the one mp figure I would love to see is one of the headmaster or targetmaster done in this style can you image the detail they could get on the smaller robot.

shortround wrote:I guess for me the one mp figure I would love to see is one of the headmaster or targetmaster done in this style can you image the detail they could get on the smaller robot.

the thought boggles the mind... A Masterpiece Karate action Ginrai??

skywarp-2 wrote:Here is an intersting custom i found, though closer in scale to what he was portrayed in the cartoon, he's definitely too big for Takara to produce in high numbers in the Masterpiece line up, unlesss you want to pay 250.00 for an MP.. the size expansion I was suggesting is no where near as big as that..but then again, it wouldn't be too bad to have him that size, the legs look a bit short but overall nice job to the unknown creator, as long as Omega supreme and other giants like Devestator ended up that size as well.. but that's purely a fantasy...

That should be cartoon accurate enough for ya olokin.. I still say the CGI render and this custom need to be combined for a completely cool Masterpiece.. not too cartoony, and not too overly mecha-ish with detailing but not too much...



One thing I will note about this custom, besides the shorter legs, is that the designer should have made the booster Jetpack with the capability to slide up and lock into place on his back while in botmode, since the boosters are sticking out behind his legs and the top of the jetpack are effectively coming up from behind his head.. in this image the booster pack is sitting too low on his back..



still i would rather own a Masterpiece Skyfire then the classics Jetfire.. I'm turning into a completist, with a few choice figures from Unicron trilogy and RID, mainly collecting MP's, Movie lines, and Beast Wars reissues..

dude, not to undermine you or anything, but i did post this in the first page of this thread, with a link to the thrwad over at Tfans. Its Being built by Computron-x. is still not finished.

From what I can tell its using some Supreme Starsceam shins, and a pair of Unicron Hands.

Overcracker wrote:There are actually a couple of custom MP Jetfire/Skyfires already.

Heres one from an MP Prime body by WikkID:

Click on the Pic for the Gallery at Transtopia.

And one in Progress by Computron-x


Cilck on the pic for the Thread over at Tfans.com

Anyway, I think all a larger version of classics Jetfire with some small modifications would be a nice masterpiece.

Retractable hands. a few more joints in the legs. Slightly flatter feet for better poseability, and its a masterpiece.

Overcracker wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:Here is an intersting custom i found, though closer in scale to what he was portrayed in the cartoon, he's definitely too big for Takara to produce in high numbers in the Masterpiece line up, unlesss you want to pay 250.00 for an MP.. the size expansion I was suggesting is no where near as big as that..but then again, it wouldn't be too bad to have him that size, the legs look a bit short but overall nice job to the unknown creator, as long as Omega supreme and other giants like Devestator ended up that size as well.. but that's purely a fantasy...

That should be cartoon accurate enough for ya olokin.. I still say the CGI render and this custom need to be combined for a completely cool Masterpiece.. not too cartoony, and not too overly mecha-ish with detailing but not too much...



One thing I will note about this custom, besides the shorter legs, is that the designer should have made the booster Jetpack with the capability to slide up and lock into place on his back while in botmode, since the boosters are sticking out behind his legs and the top of the jetpack are effectively coming up from behind his head.. in this image the booster pack is sitting too low on his back..



still i would rather own a Masterpiece Skyfire then the classics Jetfire.. I'm turning into a completist, with a few choice figures from Unicron trilogy and RID, mainly collecting MP's, Movie lines, and Beast Wars reissues..

dude, not to undermine you or anything, but i did post this in the first page of this thread, with a link to the thrwad over at Tfans. Its Being built by Computron-x. is still not finished.

From what I can tell its using some Supreme Starsceam shins, and a pair of Unicron Hands.

Overcracker wrote:There are actually a couple of custom MP Jetfire/Skyfires already.

Heres one from an MP Prime body by WikkID:

Click on the Pic for the Gallery at Transtopia.

And one in Progress by Computron-x


Cilck on the pic for the Thread over at Tfans.com

Anyway, I think all a larger version of classics Jetfire with some small modifications would be a nice masterpiece.

Retractable hands. a few more joints in the legs. Slightly flatter feet for better poseability, and its a masterpiece.

Ahhh My Bad!! No undermining felt here, I'm glad to know we can expect more images and a final Product in the future.. nice to know the guy whose building it's name!!

i noticed the giant custom with the ultra magnus beside it has unicron hands. how do you make that guy?

he is indeed. I imagine how he would compare size wise to Cybertron Starscream?