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Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:16 pm

It's just a number. What's the big deal? i'd still feel the same way about finally owning a Marlboro Wheeljack regardless of it's designation.

Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:21 pm

when I heard they were doing wheel jack deep down I was hoping for the Marlboro repaint but didn't expect that head mold. bravo takara...bravo :APPLAUSE:

while im sad that he doesn't have the words Marlboro on him I can understand that they probably had to make certain compromises to get the licensing for the stratos mold and paint scheme. hopefully we get something in the way of stickers for it.

News Credits: 656 · Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:58 pm

Stormrider wrote:I don't think the numbering is a sign that the line is running out of steam. I think it's the opposite. I am basing my view on the recent MP Book that was released and the all the excitement that the MP designers are sharing with fans through articles, tweets, and pictures.

Boom, this right here. This toy is just a fantastic thing to see because it shows the faith that they have in the line right now. Were these not continuing to do well, we wouldn't see such a risky choice. Bravo!

News Credits: 293 · Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:41 pm

the numbering might also be a marketing ploy. people like myself wouldnt like seeing MP 1 through 22, then 24. it might prompt those on the fence.

not that thats why im getting MP23. im getting him cause hes awesome :KREMZEEK:

News Credits: 462 · Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:57 pm

I don't see what's odd about his number. He's a non-exclusive/non-limited mass release and his own character. Those ones ever since MP-10 have always gotten their own numbers.

The only thing odd about him is that he isn't an exclusive or a limited run figure. His case makes about as much sense as Hasbro's releasing of Crosscut in the Generations line as a mass release instead of some kind of exclusive.

News Credits: 7 · Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:51 pm

Autobot tap out wrote:though i wait for a masterpiece toy that ISN'T a G1 character

I think Generations Rhinox is probably as close as we'll ever get to that.

News Credits: 462 · Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:47 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:
Autobot tap out wrote:though i wait for a masterpiece toy that ISN'T a G1 character

I think Generations Rhinox is probably as close as we'll ever get to that.

But he's not 99% show-accurate like most MPs are.

Beast Wars Telemocha Series TM-01 Convoy (Optimus Primal) would be a better example.

News Credits: 3642 · Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:15 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
Autobot tap out wrote:though i wait for a masterpiece toy that ISN'T a G1 character

I think Generations Rhinox is probably as close as we'll ever get to that.
But he's not 99% show-accurate like most MPs are.

Beast Wars Telemocha Series TM-01 Convoy (Optimus Primal) would be a better example.

Rhinox is far more show accurate that that gorilla mode that looks very little like he did in the cartoon. I'm surprised to see you write that.

"99% show-accurate" would be an extreme stretch in my opinion, especially considering the level of detail that Masterpiece figures have that was absent in the cartoon models. The cartoons and G1 toys are definitely the inspiration and I would consider very difficult to put a percentage on it that didn't make it seem like a blanket statement.

News Credits: 462 · Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:19 pm

I wasn't being full serious, Ryan.

I see that I forgot the

that I thought I had put in my previous post.

News Credits: 3642 · Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:22 pm

Sabrblade wrote:I wasn't being full serious, Ryan.

I see that I forgot the that I thought I had put in my previous post.

That would make much more sense, coming from you.

News Credits: 7 · Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:35 pm

Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
Autobot tap out wrote:though i wait for a masterpiece toy that ISN'T a G1 character

I think Generations Rhinox is probably as close as we'll ever get to that.
But he's not 99% show-accurate like most MPs are.

Beast Wars Telemocha Series TM-01 Convoy (Optimus Primal) would be a better example.

Rhinox is far more show accurate that that gorilla mode that looks very little like he did in the cartoon. I'm surprised to see you write that.

Also, the Telemocha Convoy/Robot Masters Beast Convoy mold is much smaller than Masterpiece figures usually are, whereas Generations Rhinox is less tiny.

News Credits: 462 · Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:37 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:Also, the Telemocha Convoy/Robot Masters Beast Convoy mold is much smaller than Masterpiece figures usually are,

So is Bumblebee.

Maximals are not giants like Autobots, so he's well scaled with his much larger ancestors.

News Credits: 3642 · Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:42 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:Also, the Telemocha Convoy/Robot Masters Beast Convoy mold is much smaller than Masterpiece figures usually are,
So is Bumblebee.

Maximals are not giants like Autobots, so he's well scaled with his much larger ancestors.

Speaking of which, would anyone else love to see a Beast Wars Cyberverse line? That would be awesome.

News Credits: 462 · Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:56 am

Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:Also, the Telemocha Convoy/Robot Masters Beast Convoy mold is much smaller than Masterpiece figures usually are,
So is Bumblebee.

Maximals are not giants like Autobots, so he's well scaled with his much larger ancestors.

Speaking of which, would anyone else love to see a Beast Wars Cyberverse line? That would be awesome.

Yes it would.

Alas, poor Cyberverse. :-(

News Credits: 6188 · Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:04 pm

The second piece of technicolour news from our site sponsor Kapow! Toys is for another Takara Tomy Masterpiece Transformer: MP-23 Smokey McWheelPants Marlboor Wheeljack Exhaust, the extensive redeco and remold of MP-20 Wheeljack. Mirrored images below, including a nice closeup of the head sculpt!

News Credits: 293 · Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:15 pm

i F'ing love that head sculpt. bravo takara :APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 2 · Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:42 pm

Although I don't collect masterpiece figures, this one is really sweet. I agree that head is great and the 2 shoulder launchers helps set him apart from Wheeljack.

News Credits: 1 · Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:43 pm

Oh my god, it's full of stars!

News Credits: 3 · Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:49 pm

Im totally unfamiliar with this character.

News Credits: 462 · Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:59 pm

Optimizzy wrote:Im totally unfamiliar with this character.

Cuz it's a brand new character never been given a TF toy until now.

The deco and remolding, however, are based on a variant of the Diaclone toy that would become G1 Wheeljack. A variant that had a different head and with colors and endorsement decals that promoted Malboro cigarettes, but with the word intentionally misspelled as "Marlboor". Hence, the figure was referred by fans as "Marlboor Wheeljack" for years until this toy finally gave it an official TF name.

News Credits: 25 · Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:21 pm

Thanks to MP Exhaust, all Transformers can enjoy the great taste of Marlboor (totally not Marlboro). Cigarettes for everyone!

(Kids, do no smoke!)

News Credits: 6188 · Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:34 pm

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Thanks to MP Exhaust, all Transformers can enjoy the great taste of Marlboor (totally not Marlboro). Cigarettes for everyone!

(Kids, do no smoke!)

Not sure if I'm the first one to notice, I'm sure I'm not, but the sponsor logo on the front spoiler does not say Good Year.

It says Good Flavor.

(Seriously, don't smoke, kids!)

News Credits: 25 · Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:49 pm

Va'al wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Thanks to MP Exhaust, all Transformers can enjoy the great taste of Marlboor (totally not Marlboro). Cigarettes for everyone!

(Kids, do no smoke!)

Not sure if I'm the first one to notice, I'm sure I'm not, but the sponsor logo on the front spoiler does not say Good Year.

It says Good Flavor.

(Seriously, don't smoke, kids!)

"Year, 1945, Exhaust is awarded the key to Iacon, by the Cybertronian senate for spreading the joys of shmoking to people of all walks of life. 9 in 10 mnemosurgeons recommend Marlboor; mmm "healthy" *cough*. So what does the future hold for Exhaust, who knows, but you can find him anytime in Kaon as both a spokesman and as a huge fan of the gladiatorial games! The smart money's on that plucky young go-getter Megatron.

(Kids do not smoke seriously now, it's a bad idea.)

News Credits: 3 · Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:56 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:Im totally unfamiliar with this character.
Cuz it's a brand new character never been given a TF toy until now.

The deco and remolding, however, are based on a variant of the Diaclone toy that would become G1 Wheeljack. A variant that had a different head and with colors and endorsement decals that promoted Malboro cigarettes, but with the word intentionally misspelled as "Marlboor". Hence, the figure was referred by fans as "Marlboor Wheeljack" for years until this toy finally gave it an official TF name.

ugh. I really don't know whats more irritating: A marlboor wheeljack turned into a new character that nobody really asked for turned into a masterpiece or that many of you seem excited.

Don't take it personal please, to each his own, but I get irritated at the "quick buck" mentality sometimes. Acid Rain and Sunstorm masterpieces are examples of that to me. Same with this. I expect "one of a kind" quality with masterpiece and it just seems like a more expensive version of everything else.

forgive me. in a bad mood. :-x

News Credits: 1 · Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:21 pm

Optimizzy wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:Im totally unfamiliar with this character.
Cuz it's a brand new character never been given a TF toy until now.

The deco and remolding, however, are based on a variant of the Diaclone toy that would become G1 Wheeljack. A variant that had a different head and with colors and endorsement decals that promoted Malboro cigarettes, but with the word intentionally misspelled as "Marlboor". Hence, the figure was referred by fans as "Marlboor Wheeljack" for years until this toy finally gave it an official TF name.

ugh. I really don't know whats more irritating: A marlboor wheeljack turned into a new character that nobody really asked for turned into a masterpiece or that many of you seem excited.

Don't take it personal please, to each his own, but I get irritated at the "quick buck" mentality sometimes. Acid Rain and Sunstorm masterpieces are examples of that to me. Same with this. I expect "one of a kind" quality with masterpiece and it just seems like a more expensive version of everything else.

forgive me. in a bad mood.

Problem is, the uses for a Wheeljack MP mold are severely limited. You got Wheeljack, Smoke-Filled Delicious Wheeljack aka Exhaust, and Slicer. That "quick buck" mentality is what is going to pay for the extremely one-off MP Sunstreaker (hopefully) down the road. Because guess who Sunstreaker gets a redeco as? No one.

Hopefully Takara will prove me wrong and do a Diaclone Sunstreaker version named Nemo. :lol: