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News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:24 pm

just no pleasing these guys eh?
i noticed TFsource has exhaust back up. i wonder if it will disappear again?

by **Robogeek1973** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:33 pm

This is just getting ridiculous now.

News Credits: 1235 · by **LOST Cybertronian** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:52 pm

A Facebook post by site sponsor Kapow Toys seems to indicate that there is still trouble ahead for MP-23 Exhaust. According to Kapow Toys, the recent deco change still hasn't been enough to clear the road ahead as they were told to remove the listing from the website. Keep it here at Seibertron.com and we will keep you informed of this ongoing Masterpiece Theater saga.

Kapow Toys wrote:It is with sadness that we have now stopped taking orders for Masterpiece Exhaust. Even with the changes to the bonnet it seems the tobacco company Philip Morris the parent company of Marlboro still do not like the fact a robotic car bares resemblance to one of their cigarette packets. We have been told in no certain terms that the product must be removed from our website immediately, yaaaaaaay

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:12 pm

If this was going to be easy, owning a Malboor just wouldn't feel right. :michaelbay:

by **Desslok2201** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:13 pm

Anybody else getting the feeling that PM just doesn't want it released, no matter what it looks like now?

by **Robogeek1973** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:18 pm

Desslok2201 wrote:Anybody else getting the feeling that PM just doesn't want it released, no matter what it looks like now?

I'm sure that this is the case.

Regardless, this whole debacle is just getting Exhausting.

by **hinomars19** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:24 pm

Robogeek1973 wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:Anybody else getting the feeling that PM just doesn't want it released, no matter what it looks like now?

I'm sure that this is the case.

Regardless, this whole debacle is just getting Exhausting.

It is a bit of a drag, isn't it?....

News Credits: 1 · by **Blozor** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:26 pm

I think the design is altered enough that Takara could take them to task on it, and countersue for the court costs and costs of delays if the court finds against PM.

by **Desslok2201** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:26 pm

My dreams of owning one are going up in smoke.
I'm so ashamed of myself now.

News Credits: 3 · by **Breakdown318** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:52 pm

This is getting ridiculous. At this rate it'll never get released. :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:58 pm

lost cybertronian, if it was you who chose that pic for the newspost, bravo sir :APPLAUSE:

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:47 pm

Whoever's in charge of Legal over at Phillip-Morris must have had a bad childhood experience with Transformers.

by **Robogeek1973** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:09 pm

shajaki wrote:lost cybertronian, if it was you who chose that pic for the newspost, bravo sir

Indeed, I laughed hard over that. :lol:

News Credits: 1 · by **Blozor** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:41 pm

Robogeek1973 wrote:
shajaki wrote:lost cybertronian, if it was you who chose that pic for the newspost, bravo sir

Indeed, I laughed hard over that.

I thought Materpiece Theatre was going to sue them over using the word "masterpiece." I was like, "Really? They just now caught wind of this?"

News Credits: 4 · by **zatara1701** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:16 pm

Maybe we should start a petition or email campaign to make PM concede?!?

This is so damn stupid...I guess no one can put Red, White and a detail of green without PM saying it's ok to do it. Damn, if thats the case, why isnt Moutain Dew suing over Dispensor (in any form)???

Surely there is a legal precedent that would absolve everyone :BANG_HEAD:

I would think the laws that protect those who parody and lampoon would work...I say that because the very name "Exhaust" lends itself as a JOKE in regard to his deco.

All i know is PM apparently likes killing happiness, joy and fun as much as they like killing people. :BOOM:

Now I going to go wear a red shirt, white pants with green socks and wait to be told to cease and desist going outside dressed in a trademarked deco.

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:20 pm

This just further illustrates how smoking is evil. :SMUG:

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:32 pm

TFormers seems to think that exhaust will be outright cancelled. anyone else think this is a possibility? i thought that takara didnt care. but they obviously did, enough to try and alter to appease PM. is it time to start panicking?

News Credits: 1235 · by **LOST Cybertronian** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:33 pm

shajaki wrote:lost cybertronian, if it was you who chose that pic for the newspost, bravo sir

I am pretty proud of that myself thanks

News Credits: 4 · by **padfoo** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:43 pm

Desslok2201 wrote:Anybody else getting the feeling that PM just doesn't want it released, no matter what it looks like now?

They have to whatever it takes to get publicity and/or money since smoking continues to decline.

by **Ultra Markus** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:47 pm

takara should tell philip morris to suck it!

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:00 pm

Ultra Markus wrote:takara should tell philip morris to suck it!

If only. Phillip Morris USA, or rather, tobacco companies in general are very rich and powerful forces to be reckoned with. TakaraTomy would be fighting an uphill battle if they chose to directly go against PM's wishes. Let's keep hoping that this figure isn't completely doomed. :PRAY:

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:23 pm

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Whoever's in charge of Legal over at Phillip-Morris must have had a bad childhood experience with Transformers.

And to think they let Kyoshu (scaled model car manufacturer) get away with a not Malboro version of the same car model.

by **Desslok2201** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:38 pm

fenrir72 wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Whoever's in charge of Legal over at Phillip-Morris must have had a bad childhood experience with Transformers.

And to think they let Kyoshu (scaled model car manufacturer) get away with a not Malboro version of the same car model.

When? And was it for sale in the U.S.?

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:43 pm

I'm not sure if it matters whether it was sold in the US, as MP-23 is not marketed for US sale.

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:56 pm

sol magnus wrote:I'm not sure if it matters whether it was sold in the US, as MP-23 is not marketed for US sale.

True, but importer retailers like BBTS, TFSource, etc. were interested in trying to sell this toy to U.S. consumers, which sparked this whole ordeal to begin with.

Whether it's domestic or imported, PM is trying its darnedest to keep this figure from ever being sold to the United States.