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Yeah, I guess it was just the first picture with Black Convoy where the piece seemed to be hanging down lower, sorry for the confusion.

It is weird about the color difference, same with Cliffjumper. They were both more traditional looking before, but the reviews make BB look a paler yellow, and CJ is a darker metallic red, almost maroon.

kirbenvost wrote:Yeah, I guess it was just the first picture with Black Convoy where the piece seemed to be hanging down lower, sorry for the confusion.

It is weird about the color difference, same with Cliffjumper. They were both more traditional looking before, but the reviews make BB look a paler yellow, and CJ is a darker metallic red, almost maroon.

No problem.

Thanks for the extra info and photos, Diem!

Hmm, it seems like the figure has a surprisingly good range of articulation in the legs. I'm surprised it can balance so well on its feet, which don't look so stable at a glance. Very interesting!

His rack's still not as good as Cybertron Thunderblast's though.

Convotron wrote:Thanks for the extra info and photos, Diem!

Hmm, it seems like the figure has a surprisingly good range of articulation in the legs. I'm surprised it can balance so well on its feet, which don't look so stable at a glance. Very interesting!

He can balance fantastically as long as you fiddle with his feet enough.

Thanks for the review... I know a lot of people don't like his bot mode, but I don't think it's much worse for my taste than Alternator Sunstreaker. That pose is one of my least favorites in the Alternator/Binaltech line, and it's still a great figure.

I'm not familiar with the Alternity line, but I know it's closer to 1:32 or 1:36 instead of the 1:24 scale of the Alternator/Binaltech line. I passed on Prime and Megatron because they were way out of scale for me, and too movie-inspired with the insect-like plating (that's what I see it as, anyway... Maybe it's supposed to be armour scales similar to Samurai gear?)... but I've been wanting an MP/BT/Alt scaled Bumblebee for nearly 5 years now, and as you said, this is probably as close as we're going to get.

Do you have pics of him in scale with say, MP Convoy/Prime or a BT/Alt?

I know that the Alternity guys are irritated that he's as tall as Alternity Prime, but I'm happy for it... It means he's smaller than the BT/Alts, but not even tinier than the previous Alternities, which is what I was afraid of.

Perhaps he's a little closer in scale to the BTs than I originally worried he was... or perhaps not. A reference pic would be much appreciated!

mandingo_rex wrote:
I passed on Prime and Megatron because they were way out of scale for me, and too movie-inspired with the insect-like plating (that's what I see it as, anyway... Maybe it's supposed to be armour scales similar to Samurai gear?)...

Up close, they look very detailed, but not movie-like. Megatron is very samurai-esque.

Do you have pics of him in scale with say, MP Convoy/Prime or a BT/Alt?

I don't own any version of MP Prime I hope this will suffice:

Diem,

Thanks a ton. I guess to an MP he's tiny, but to an Alternator, it's about the right size comparison as in the cartoon? Bee was always a tiny guy in the first place, so I'm not too upset with the scale. It is odd that the car is going to be smaller, but with it being a compact, I guess it will perhaps help the illusion?

Not like I'm keeping him in car mode often, anyway.

Thanks for the pics.

And that reminds me, WHY hasn't a third party made a decent Megatron replacement cannon that's not so absurdly scaled in bot mode? We got a chalice for Grimlock and a cape and crown that was in 42 seconds of TF:The Movie, and yet Megatron's cannon is gigantic!

Diem, excellent work with this.

Would you mind if I requested a picture or two of BB in alt mode next to an Alternator or two in alt mode?

Thanks man.

Counterpunch wrote:Diem, excellent work with this.

Would you mind if I requested a picture or two of BB in alt mode next to an Alternator or two in alt mode?

Thanks man.

No problem:





That last picture looks more seedy than I planned...

Hope those helped.

Diem wrote:Hope those helped.

They do help.

and complicate my decision making process...

Counterpunch wrote:

Diem wrote:Hope those helped.

They do help.

and complicate my decision making process...

You've got to get an Alternity Bumble! Every time someone buys an Alternity Bumble or Cliff, an angel gets its wings.

Convotron wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Diem wrote:Hope those helped.

They do help.

and complicate my decision making process...

You've got to get an Alternity Bumble! Every time someone buys an Alternity Bumble or Cliff, an angel gets its wings.

A fat angel?

Counterpunch wrote:
A fat angel?

Hahaha, wow. Alternity Bumblebee, Fat Angel of Multidimensional Power.

Counterpunch wrote:A fat angel?

Of course! They didn't get fat by walking regularly.

kirbenvost wrote:Hahaha, wow. Alternity Bumblebee, Fat Angel of Multidimensional Power.

It does have back kibble that do resemble wings...

Convotron wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:A fat angel?

Of course! They didn't get fat by walking regularly.

kirbenvost wrote:Hahaha, wow. Alternity Bumblebee, Fat Angel of Multidimensional Power.

It does have back kibble that do resemble wings...

That's what I was thinkig too...

Convotron wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Diem wrote:Hope those helped.

They do help.

and complicate my decision making process...

You've got to get an Alternity Bumble! Every time someone buys an Alternity Bumble or Cliff, an angel gets its wings.

I hope someone gets one soon! I'd love to hear the opinion of someone else on this board, and to discuss the figure with 'em.

Diem wrote:

Convotron wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Diem wrote:Hope those helped.

They do help.

and complicate my decision making process...

You've got to get an Alternity Bumble! Every time someone buys an Alternity Bumble or Cliff, an angel gets its wings.

I hope someone gets one soon! I'd love to hear the opinion of someone else on this board, and to discuss the figure with 'em.

I ordered them, give me a few days and I'll let you know.

I'm waiting on more stuff to come into BBTS before I ship em. The 3rd Encore tape set should be in soonish.

Oh dear. I never knew Alternity figures were so small..

Well there goes my pre-orders.

NB: Alternity Cliff get.

I haven't had a chance to bust him out yet but his red is so, so pretty!

Not very G1ish though.

Blurrz wrote:Oh dear. I never knew Alternity figures were so small..

Well there goes my pre-orders.

How did you miss that? People have complained about that since they were announced!

Okay, so Cliff...his red is beautiful. If Alternity Convoy was this shade of red, I'd have got him instead of the silver version. His function is High Protector, and aside from his awesome headsculpt (on which the lightpiping doesn't work) he's the same. However, his joints are even tighter than Bumble's. It was a real fight to get his legs unfolded.

Hey Diem...

I got the figures today. They rock. I was wrong, but the initial pictures of the toy lied to me. They told me the toys were crappy...

At any rate, you had some discussion here about his hood and getting it to align in. I just wanted to check and make sure that you were able to snap the little engine piece, the one under his hood in bot mode, into the body frame.

It tabs in snuggly, controls the hood piece, and makes the front view of the toy far less apron like. If you've already done/discovered this, just ignore me.

I opened these up at work for big fun. I can't wait to put them in their place with my Alts and Masterpiece figures.

Please let's not have anymore glowing reviews of Alternity Bumble and Cliff. I was hoping I could just pretend Alternity never happened and save money by not buying any.