The Energon Pub

kary wrote:I'm sorry but this is pure crap. Get a real artist on board... what is this... colour your transformer colouring book? Puuhh-leeese!

Some people really can't help themselves, huh?

Big Grim wrote:Some people really can't help themselves, huh?

Stupidity's a disease, the only known cure is an injection of foot to the arse.

Lucky I am fully qualified to administer said cure!

Liege Evilmus wrote:I can respect his career, but truth be told, I never liked his style in the TF continuity.

These pictures nurture that thought.

My thoughts exactly!

Big Grim wrote:Glad to see Senior back. Man is a friggin' Legend in my eyes! His work on G1 TF was amazing. He created the look of Death's Head fer chrissakes! I still cherish the signed print of DH I got from the man himself at AA a couple of years ago.

I thought he co-created Death's Head with Simon Furman.

Cyberstrike wrote:I thought he co-created Death's Head with Simon Furman.

Yes. Furman created the character. Senior created the design.

Cyberstrike wrote:I thought he co-created Death's Head with Simon Furman.

Put it this way, Furman's name is on an upcoming You Can Draw TFs book as author -- I'd really like to see him try some of the techniques...

Denyer wrote:

Cyberstrike wrote:I thought he co-created Death's Head with Simon Furman.

Put it this way, Furman's name is on an upcoming You Can Draw TFs book as author -- I'd really like to see him try some of the techniques...

LOL!

Yes, that would be very interesting!

Yay! I LOVED his work on Transformers--issue 75 of the Marvel run easily comes to mind. It's not overly technical, but it oozes style.
They needed someone like this working with the movie bots to simplify the look. 'Cause lets face it--these guys usually look so complicated that it's hard to tell one apart from another.

Good to see him back on the home team.

kary wrote:I'm sorry but this is pure crap. Get a real artist on board... what is this... colour your transformer colouring book? Puuhh-leeese!

The guy's a Transformers legend, and illustrated some of the best TF comic stories ever put into print. Show some respect.

Matrix. wrote:

kary wrote:I'm sorry but this is pure crap. Get a real artist on board... what is this... colour your transformer colouring book? Puuhh-leeese!

The guy's a Transformers legend, and illustrated some of the best TF comic stories ever put into print. Show some respect.

Yes, he did illustrate some of the best TF comic stories. For instance, that pic you posted is done very well. It was effective for the Marvel TF comics back in the day. Though, compared to some of the artwork produced by the DW and IDW artists, it doesn't quite impress me for use in modern works.

Geoff Senior's art was the WORST. There's not a single TF artist I would rate lower. Even the Galvatron pic example is terrible. Co-creating Death's Head isn't an accomplishment either. It's another bad Furman decision. Legend? Respect? You gotta be kidding. As much as I'm upset with Lee, I'd rather he did TF's.

Grimshock wrote: As much as I'm upset with Lee, I'd rather he did TF's.

This is why people don't need to argue: it's easier and far more effective just to sit back and let you speak.

Denyer wrote:

Grimshock wrote: As much as I'm upset with Lee, I'd rather he did TF's.

This is why people don't need to argue: it's easier and far more effective just to sit back and let you speak.

Geoff Senior IS my favorite Transformers artist. There's something so unique and special about his drawings. I am so impressed that his artwork has pretty much stayed the same over the past 20 years. I love what appears as the simplicity of his drawings and the cartoon type style. I tire of the over dramatic extremely complex designs that current artists seems to spill into their work. Perhaps that's why I like E.J. Su's art the best of the new crop ... he has an almost cartoon like style that reminds me of Senior's. Nick Roche is also growing on me ... especially after his Spotlight: Kup book. Same reason as E.J. Su and Geoff Senior.

Seibertron wrote:

Denyer wrote:

Grimshock wrote: As much as I'm upset with Lee, I'd rather he did TF's.

This is why people don't need to argue: it's easier and far more effective just to sit back and let you speak.

Geoff Senior IS my favorite Transformers artist. There's something so unique and special about his drawings. I am so impressed that his artwork has pretty much stayed the same over the past 20 years. I love what appears as the simplicity of his drawings and the cartoon type style. I tire of the over dramatic extremely complex designs that current artists seems to spill into their work. Perhaps that's why I like E.J. Su's art the best of the new crop ... he has an almost cartoon like style that reminds me of Senior's. Nick Roche is also growing on me ... especially after his Spotlight: Kup book. Same reason as E.J. Su and Geoff Senior.

exactly, seniors style is way more complex than it looks. theres always little things going on in the scene ancillary to the story. one of my favourit images of his was the deaths heads / FF issue. theres a lovely scene where he materalises on the roof of the baxter building and a roof tile practically explodes behind him to reveal a blaster training on him. with everything else in the pannel so calm it imparted a real sense of kinetic dynamism

in fact i'd go so far to say hes the most dynamic style of all artists stil out there. don figs work is beautiful no mistake but sometimes his storytelling is hard to follow (the end confrontation between prime and thunderwing for example in stormbringer) and he cant match the sheer violence of seniors stuff. his G2 work still stands as some of the best. i mean jesus i FELT prime being eaten alive in issue 12

thank god he took this gig, i cant wait to get this.

Excellent. I look forward to the end of personal attacks and dishonest input.

Grimshock wrote:Excellent. I look forward to the end of personal attacks and dishonest input.

Grimshock wrote:Geoff Senior's art was the WORST. There's not a single TF artist I would rate lower. Even the Galvatron pic example is terrible. Co-creating Death's Head isn't an accomplishment either. It's another bad Furman decision. Legend? Respect? You gotta be kidding. As much as I'm upset with Lee, I'd rather he did TF's.

As do we all.

When people criticise Lee's art, they're usually pretty good at explaining, illustrating, adding examples, etc.

When people talk of lacking respect for him, they're generally referring to the on-record deception, defaulting on payments, ripping off people who might happen to be friends of theirs.

Whereas you seem to enjoy going off on tangents about people who are really very pleasant and law-abiding as if they'd deposited a dead puppy in front of you.

When Furman or Senior turn into deadbeats who defraud fellow creators or big themselves up as superstars at conventions, then might be an appropriate point to talk about lacking respect for them.

My lack of respect is completely based on talent. It is also why I'd rather see Lee draw. Despite his faults and the fact that there are several artists better, he is still a much better artist than Senior. Senior's art is so flat. I get no sense of the third dimension in his drawings. Just terrible.

Geoff's artwork is the best. He draws robots like they should be drawn without silly human style faces!