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The names in the cast I recognize are Jake Foushee (Optimus Prime), Jason Marnocha (Megatron), Frank Todaro (Starscream), Keith Silverstein (Jetfire), and Todd Haberkorn (Shockwave, Red Alert).

Six 22-minute episodes for Season 1 makes sense.

o.supreme wrote:He's not terrible...but I'd rather have Neil Kaplan or Jon Bailey again if we cant have the MAN (Cullen) himself. Also no slight against Gary Chalk, but to me he'll always be Primal rather than Prime,

I get that and agree to some extent, but I have to admit, he definitely feels like Prime whenever I see this intro:



I like him as Prime, it's a decent take while being different from Cullen.

Looking forward to see some conflict between Ultra Magnus and Optimus Prime (run vs. win). My favorite cartoon portrayal of Magnus was always RID 2001 being the pissed-off brother. I'm excited for this take.

Sabrblade wrote:Six 22-minute episodes for Season 1 makes sense.

Yep, should sufficiently be enough advertising to help sell the Walmart exclusives.

Tigerhawk7109 wrote:Well this looks promising... (And if it fails, I can always rewrite it in my imagination)

Cheers. I'll drink to that, bro.

As for me, I want to go in with as little expectation as possible. I've found that too much hype can kill my satisfaction with something.

I'm also going to be as controversial as possible by saying that I'm a-ok with (pre and post) Great War content for Transformers.

Ironhidensh wrote:I was really hoping for something new and different. Not just the same old Great War blah blah blah..... maybe something along the lines of MTMTE or even RiD2015.


I knew better, of course, but I was hoping all the same. Yes, this looks pretty decent, and I might even enjoy it, but it isn’t what I wanted.

Ah well, life goes on.

Then, you need to watch Season 3 of Cyberverse.

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Hopefully there will be some levity in that to counterbalance all the turmoil of warfare.

I should hope not. This is the War for Cybertron. The lame comic relief humour of certain TF series of old would be horribly out of place, tonally speaking. There shouldn't be any guffaws at this stage in their history.

"Levity" does not automatically equal "comic relief".

Historically, in Transformers in general we know it does. Typically every TF series is at it's best when it acknowledges that war isn't funny. The Movie being the first time G1 lived upto that idea. MTMTE/LL or the Japanaes dub of Beast Wars, being where the very idea was completely bastardised. The fact that this show is going to be on Netflix only lends credence to the idea this won't have to go down that road, just to please TV standards groups.

What would you rather see more focus on? Five Faces of Darkness or B.O.T.? Code of Hero or The Low Road? Animated Season Three or Car Robots? Last Stand of The Wreckers or IDWverse 2.0?

Avensis-Mahiya wrote:

Tigerhawk7109 wrote:Well this looks promising... (And if it fails, I can always rewrite it in my imagination)

Cheers. I'll drink to that, bro.

As for me, I want to go in with as little expectation as possible. I've found that too much hype can kill my satisfaction with something.

I'm also going to be as controversial as possible by saying that I'm a-ok with (pre and post) Great War content for Transformers.

Hey. I respect that, dude. There’s always so much focus on Earth, we never get enough action on the home front. This’ll be good. I hope.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Hopefully there will be some levity in that to counterbalance all the turmoil of warfare.

I should hope not. This is the War for Cybertron. The lame comic relief humour of certain TF series of old would be horribly out of place, tonally speaking. There shouldn't be any guffaws at this stage in their history.

"Levity" does not automatically equal "comic relief".

Historically, in Transformers in general we know it does. Typically every TF series is at it's best when it acknowledges that war isn't funny. The Movie being the first time G1 lived upto that idea. MTMTE/LL or the Japanaes dub of Beast Wars, being where the very idea was completely bastardised. The fact that this show is going to be on Netflix only lends credence to the idea this won't have to go down that road, just to please TV standards groups.

What would you rather see more focus on? Five Faces of Darkness or B.O.T.? Code of Hero or The Low Road? Animated Season Three or Car Robots? Last Stand of The Wreckers or IDWverse 2.0?

In other words, you don't want this show have any positive emotions or uplifting bright spots at all. No optimism, no hope, no happiness, no charm, no likability, no reassurance, no inspiration, no friendliness, no nothing. Just nothing but misery, depression, anger, hatred, sullenness, sorrow, angst, vengeance, pain, suffering, mourning, death, distress, grief, agony, anxiety, tortture, psychosis, loathing, etc.

Hope you enjoy your sad, depressing show. I'd rather go watch Wonder Woman again, a movie that treats WWI with respect and also serves to inspire hope and the betterment of humanity.

Maturity and levity are not mutually exclusive themes. I must have missed that part in every single war story ever told.

Nor is friendship, optimism or likeability et al absent from a compelling War narrative. To humanise war through fiction, is to explore the good and the bad. Guffaws and fart jokes cheapen whatever merit the narrative might have in the telling of such stories. There to patronise an audience deemed ill-equipped to cope with a more adult narrative.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Maturity and levity are not mutually exclusive themes. I must have missed that part in every single war story ever told.

Nor is friendship, optimism or likeability et al absent from a compelling War narrative. To humanise war through fiction, is to explore the good and the bad. Guffaws and fart jokes cheapen whatever merit the narrative might have in the telling of such stories. There to patronise an audience deemed ill-equipped to cope with a more adult narrative.

You're the only one who said anything about fart jokes.

Yes. Because that is the level of humour series in the past have lowered to. As I said, traditionally TF series humour is aimed as low brow as possible.
Because executives think kids are "too stupid" or "delicate" to grasp the concept of actual conflict. In spite of the existence of such Kids series that represent the opposite of such mentality, from Bucky O' Hare to Roughnecks.

This show is going to be terrible, given the track record of Rooster Teeth and Netflix. There, I said it. It cannot and will not even come close to the heights of Animated and Prime purely because such height simply cannot be achieved again. Not right now. Call me negative but that's what I think. At the risk of sounding like I don't 'get' Transformers: yes its 'a toy show' but Animated and Prime had a massively ambitious creative team behind them which ensured that the show was the main appeal and the toyline a bonus.

This is what TF should strive for. However once again we see a crummy, short online-only production meant to advertise a toyline that's already finished. I can't be the only one having massive Machinima Combiner Wars flashback, right?

Skritz wrote:It cannot and will not even come close to the heights of Animated and Prime purely because such height simply cannot be achieved again. Not right now.

Cyberverse says "Hi."

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:It cannot and will not even come close to the heights of Animated and Prime purely because such height simply cannot be achieved again. Not right now.

Cyberverse says "Hi."

Since when is Cyberverse good?

Skritz wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:It cannot and will not even come close to the heights of Animated and Prime purely because such height simply cannot be achieved again. Not right now.

Cyberverse says "Hi."

Since when is Cyberverse good?

Like, right now! Season 3 is balls to the walls amazing!

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:It cannot and will not even come close to the heights of Animated and Prime purely because such height simply cannot be achieved again. Not right now.

Cyberverse says "Hi."

Since when is Cyberverse good?

Like, right now! Season 3 is balls to the walls amazing!

While I haven't quite gotten there yet, Season 2 was really good too, that show is doing good (plan to watch season 3 hopefully this week).

As for this, after the trailer did little for me, I am going to try to remain open to it being good. But I will still keep expectations heavily in check

I think a common theme to success here is the lack of Evergreen. I saw plenty of comments to this shows trailer stating variations on "I want the OG voices back" Which is the biggest problem to Transformers. This isn't the original show. Let it go. Everything from Beast Wars to Cyberverse, wherein do they hit their stride? When they leave the shackles of G1 behind. Such reverence to the original series, nearly 40 years on, is only toxic at this point.

The best Transformers shows of the past don't have to be lightning in a bottle. The Evergreen fetish makes them so.

How can there be another contemporary Transformers show with the outdated shadow of the 80's lurching ever present over it? Beast Wars to Unicron Trilogy to Prime. They all wore their era with pride. They pay lip service to what came before, but don't get bogged down in trying to replicate it.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I think a common theme to success here is the lack of Evergreen. I saw plenty of comments to this shows trailer stating variations on "I want the OG voices back" Which is the biggest problem to Transformers. This isn't the original show. Let it go. Everything from Beast Wars to Cyberverse, wherein do they hit their stride? When they leave the shackles of G1 behind. Such reverence to the original series, nearly 40 years on, is only toxic at this point.

The best Transformers shows of the past don't have to be lightning in a bottle. The Evergreen fetish makes them so.

How can there be another contemporary Transformers show with the outdated shadow of the 80's lurching ever present over it? Beast Wars to Unicron Trilogy to Prime. They all wore their era with pride. They pay lip service to what came before, but don't get bogged down in trying to replicate it.

Its the current trend of corporations and pop culture: stick to the brand's most iconic era and style because its safe and easily marketable to the very late boomers/early Gen X to Gen Y aka people who were around in the fanbase form the '80 to the '90. That and currently a very vocal portion of the fanbase are the people back from their G1 days and the newcomers from IDW. Which are all very focused on G1.

Don't get me wrong I'm the first to love Generations as a line but I'm starting to think it might not be the best material to base off a toyline-derived show, as it will always carry the shadow of GEEWUN.

Totally stoked about this. Now I have an excuse to add Netflix to my already-maximized entertainment budget.

I’m particularly excited about how grim-n-gritty it looks, both in animation style and potential plot (war and all). I loved Prime, but get those silly flesh-creatures out of the equation

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I think a common theme to success here is the lack of Evergreen. I saw plenty of comments to this shows trailer stating variations on "I want the OG voices back" Which is the biggest problem to Transformers. This isn't the original show. Let it go. Everything from Beast Wars to Cyberverse, wherein do they hit their stride? When they leave the shackles of G1 behind. Such reverence to the original series, nearly 40 years on, is only toxic at this point.

The best Transformers shows of the past don't have to be lightning in a bottle. The Evergreen fetish makes them so.

How can there be another contemporary Transformers show with the outdated shadow of the 80's lurching ever present over it? Beast Wars to Unicron Trilogy to Prime. They all wore their era with pride. They pay lip service to what came before, but don't get bogged down in trying to replicate it.

Out of curiosity, what would you like to see more/less of in the franchise? I just want to know where you're coming from.

This looks great to me, but as a G1 guy, it seems tailor made for me. I wont complain. I'm loving the figures right now and fairly excited for the show. So its working here. Hopefully the show is good. I dont really see the compaints that its just a "toyline cartoon". Since the toyline will be gone by then, but of course they are re-releasing some of the Siege figures. Looks like more of a product of the show needing toys more than the toys needing a show. Of course they go hand in hand, but as long as its good, its all good.

This looks AWESOME!

Guys, the character models, the tone. Animations are decent. This looks very promising to me. I was so dissapointed by the Machinema series. The framerate was 3 frames per second, the animation models were almost 1 colored meshes. The animation was just silly rotating joints.
I didn't like the story and what happened, half an action scene and that was the entire episode.

Haven't truly seen Cyberverse, how can I, I live in freaking Holland. I think it's even region blocked online somehow, time for VPN and the high seas, searching for booty.

This looks awesome, I don't need a full package of drama, action, humor and 0 plotholes. Give me a more mature (12+ age) Transformers series with good visuals and okay to decent storylines and characters. Then I'm good.

I also love it that they are (almost) exactly like their toy variants. And Jetfire is a Decepticon guys! Also Fembots in the trailer!

When will this launch?

Summer most likely also don't expect Jetfire to stay a con... Plus now that I think of it in both the G1 and Movie verse he started as a con anyway...

noctorro wrote:Haven't truly seen Cyberverse, how can I, I live in freaking Holland. I think it's even region blocked online somehow, time for VPN and the high seas, searching for booty.

Dailymotion isn't region blocked, is it?