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News Credits: 4 · by **Slashercon** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:19 pm

Very happy with the whole idea of the combiners. Hope we get Devestator, Defensor, Computron, and though we might not get him...Magnaboss. We also might not get my favorite Decepticon combiner, Bruticus, what with his recent release in the FOC bracket of Generations.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:33 pm

Meh... I hate to admit it, but Alpha Bravo is actually growing on me. I'm still going to buy the Beezleboss Slingshot that's coming out because I want it accurate and G1 as possible, but AB is definitely growing on me.

More money out the window.

by **Rated X** » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:36 pm

Superion looks ok if you bend his knees and elbows. But standing straight he looks like crap. Uranus is a much better superion.

News Credits: 3597 · by **Seibertron** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:19 am

Rated X wrote:Superion looks ok if you bend his knees and elbows. But standing straight he looks like crap. Uranus is a much better superion.

I should certainly hope so for a toy that costs 5.5 times as much ($85 versus $450)! A Lamborghini is a much nicer car than a Corvette as well, but the Corvette is still pretty damn nice.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:22 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:However, just thinking about it, how menacing would a combiner made of Dinobots be?
"Menacing" is putting it mildly:

Is it some sort of expectation that once a team combines, the gestalt becomes a much less intelligent being?

News Credits: 10 · by **Arctorro** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:03 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:However, just thinking about it, how menacing would a combiner made of Dinobots be?
"Menacing" is putting it mildly:

Is it some sort of expectation that once a team combines, the gestalt becomes a much less intelligent being?

The combined robots brain is made up of 5 minds that don't 'gel' all that well and it causes confliction which reduces the overall intelligence. At least that's how I see it...

News Credits: 3 · by **prjkt** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:59 am

and it's not like they were that smart to begin with

by **noctorro** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:10 am

Superion looks awesome!

And I have him! Still need to do the combi transformation.

I love the line, best overall TF line so far imho.
Megatron is still underway

Are there any pictures of combiners other than Menasor/Superion? I read a lot of names, but those are only rumors right?

by **Rated X** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:29 am

Seibertron wrote:
Rated X wrote:Superion looks ok if you bend his knees and elbows. But standing straight he looks like crap. Uranus is a much better superion.

I should certainly hope so for a toy that costs 5.5 times as much ($85 versus $450)! A Lamborghini is a much nicer car than a Corvette as well, but the Corvette is still pretty damn nice.

At the original prices plus the upgrades Uranus cost me close to $600. Hasbro is improving with each combiner but they really need to work on the monkey arms. And that flop coptor was an insult to fans. You cant tell me the coptor wasn't done on purpose as a "marketing decision". Do you support the coptor decision ? I know you wont buy it but how do you feel about the upcoming 3rd party slingshot ? Would you agree that sometimes hasbro can be their own worst enemy in that regards ?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:33 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:However, just thinking about it, how menacing would a combiner made of Dinobots be?
"Menacing" is putting it mildly:

Is it some sort of expectation that once a team combines, the gestalt becomes a much less intelligent being?

It's not that that guy isn't smart, it's an all out monster. A psychopathic, barbaric, killing machine. Kills Autobots, Decepticons, you name it.

by **noctorro** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:06 pm

Rated X wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Rated X wrote:Superion looks ok if you bend his knees and elbows. But standing straight he looks like crap. Uranus is a much better superion.

I should certainly hope so for a toy that costs 5.5 times as much ($85 versus $450)! A Lamborghini is a much nicer car than a Corvette as well, but the Corvette is still pretty damn nice.

At the original prices plus the upgrades Uranus cost me close to $600. Hasbro is improving with each combiner but they really need to work on the monkey arms. And that flop coptor was an insult to fans. You cant tell me the coptor wasn't done on purpose as a "marketing decision". Do you support the coptor decision ? I know you wont buy it but how do you feel about the upcoming 3rd party slingshot ? Would you agree that sometimes hasbro can be their own worst enemy in that regards ?

I disagree.
Obviously.

I think the Alpha Bravo dude wasn't a bad choice. If it was a jet and called Slingshot I'd be just as happy. And four jets who kind of look the same, I understand Hasbro's point of view.

I'm not bothered by monkey arms, but I can understand some people are.

I'll look for some comparison shots with Superion next to Uranus in combiner form.
But I always am in favor of Hasbro/Takara (a.k.a. real Transformers) bots than third party stuff.

But I do own Hercules, because they look good, great scale and solid bots.
Don't know if I'll keep him, have to wait for the Combiner Wars Devastator.
I have way to many robots for a small appartment and keep op buying -_-

by **Rated X** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:12 pm

noctorro wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Rated X wrote:Superion looks ok if you bend his knees and elbows. But standing straight he looks like crap. Uranus is a much better superion.

I should certainly hope so for a toy that costs 5.5 times as much ($85 versus $450)! A Lamborghini is a much nicer car than a Corvette as well, but the Corvette is still pretty damn nice.

At the original prices plus the upgrades Uranus cost me close to $600. Hasbro is improving with each combiner but they really need to work on the monkey arms. And that flop coptor was an insult to fans. You cant tell me the coptor wasn't done on purpose as a "marketing decision". Do you support the coptor decision ? I know you wont buy it but how do you feel about the upcoming 3rd party slingshot ? Would you agree that sometimes hasbro can be their own worst enemy in that regards ?

I disagree.
Obviously.

I think the Alpha Bravo dude wasn't a bad choice. If it was a jet and called Slingshot I'd be just as happy. And four jets who kind of look the same, I understand Hasbro's point of view.

I'm not bothered by monkey arms, but I can understand some people are.

I'll look for some comparison shots with Superion next to Uranus in combiner form.
But I always am in favor of Hasbro/Takara (a.k.a. real Transformers) bots than third party stuff.

But I do own Hercules, because they look good, great scale and solid bots.
Don't know if I'll keep him, have to wait for the Combiner Wars Devastator.
I have way to many robots for a small appartment and keep op buying -_-

I know you don’t mind the monkey arms lol.

As far as the helicopter choice, it just seems silly. From a fiction point of view, how is he supposed to keep up with his teammates? The thing that pisses me off is that Hasbro’s corporate guys just assume they can reads kids minds. It’s not like they put out a survey for kids to vote if they want a copter or a G1 slingshot. Hasbro just says “hey kids, were the toy experts and this is what you should like”.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:41 pm

noctorro wrote:I always am in favor of Hasbro/Takara (a.k.a. real Transformers) bots than third party stuff.

By that you mean "official" Hasbro-sanctioned Transformers, right? Because 3rd party companies have some superior products, especially combiners, out there right now. If Hasbro put as much thought into engineering their products as some of there 3rd party places do, I'd be buying a lot more TFs. But the 3rd party selections are limited, due to pricing, and the quality and design of the "official" figures is inferior for the same reason. For me, it all comes down to quality over quantity. I think 3rd party stuff is for collectors, whereas "official" Hasbro stuff, other than the MP line, is for younger consumers. After all, Hasbro is a toy company.

by **Mr_Autobot411** » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:39 pm

Hasbro, then u wonder why i give my money to 3rd parties. esp the combiners.

these are massive fails for me, wtf is up with superions hands?

well ill be saving a lot of money in 2015. I wont start on the laughable RID line either, save that for another thread. :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 13 · by **OptimalOptimus2** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:32 am

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:Hasbro, then u wonder why i give my money to 3rd parties. esp the combiners.

these are massive fails for me, wtf is up with superions hands?

well ill be saving a lot of money in 2015. I wont start on the laughable RID line either, save that for another thread.

I think the Transformers brand is starting to reach its final stages.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:26 pm

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:I think the Transformers brand is starting to reach its final stages.

I bet people thought that back in '95 as well, as G2 concluded. Yet here we are.

by **Rated X** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:46 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:I think the Transformers brand is starting to reach its final stages.
I bet people thought that back in '95 as well, as G2 concluded. Yet here we are.

I dont know about gone for good, but I can see it going dormant in a few years and then making a comeback a decade later. We saw the same thing with ninja turtles and GI Joe.

News Credits: 13 · by **OptimalOptimus2** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 7:48 pm

Rated X wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:I think the Transformers brand is starting to reach its final stages.
I bet people thought that back in '95 as well, as G2 concluded. Yet here we are.

I dont know about gone for good, but I can see it going dormant in a few years and then making a comeback a decade later. We saw the same thing with ninja turtles and GI Joe.

I was thinking about this too, but Hasbro, most likely, would not own the brand anymore.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:13 pm

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:I think the Transformers brand is starting to reach its final stages.
I bet people thought that back in '95 as well, as G2 concluded. Yet here we are.

I dont know about gone for good, but I can see it going dormant in a few years and then making a comeback a decade later. We saw the same thing with ninja turtles and GI Joe.

I was thinking about this too, but Hasbro, most likely, would not own the brand anymore.

Why wouldn't they? Even if they didn't put out anything new, it would take at least a few years to clear all the shelves of all the stores of the current TF merchandise. Besides, as long as they keep making the live action movies, as they plan to, there will be new movie figures, at least, coming out for the next 5 years. If Hasbro for some reason decides to commit seppuku after that, and shut down TFs, they could still get the royalties of whatever remains in the stores. And by the time those clear out, it would be time to bring a new line around anyway. Since Transformers have been around, they have never taken more than a 2-year break, if that. There's always something new around the corner.

News Credits: 1 · by **leakin' lubricant** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:11 am

Autobot032 wrote:Meh... I hate to admit it, but Alpha Bravo is actually growing on me. I'm still going to buy the Beezleboss Slingshot that's coming out because I want it accurate and G1 as possible, but AB is definitely growing on me.

More money out the window.

I really like Alpha Bravo, I bought this guy first before any of the others just because he was different and because I was expection to be disapointed by him and wanted to get the negativity out of the way early, I was very surprised by him, OK hes a helicopter but it really doesnt bother me, he's still an aircraft afterall. Also his deco is a very close homage to Slingshot. The only this that bothers me about him is the way the rotor blades flap arond in bot and limb mode, if they could tab away he would be perfect.

News Credits: 1 · by **leakin' lubricant** » Fri Dec 26, 2014 4:13 am

Rated X wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Rated X wrote:Superion looks ok if you bend his knees and elbows. But standing straight he looks like crap. Uranus is a much better superion.

I should certainly hope so for a toy that costs 5.5 times as much ($85 versus $450)! A Lamborghini is a much nicer car than a Corvette as well, but the Corvette is still pretty damn nice.

At the original prices plus the upgrades Uranus cost me close to $600. Hasbro is improving with each combiner but they really need to work on the monkey arms. And that flop coptor was an insult to fans. You cant tell me the coptor wasn't done on purpose as a "marketing decision". Do you support the coptor decision ? I know you wont buy it but how do you feel about the upcoming 3rd party slingshot ? Would you agree that sometimes hasbro can be their own worst enemy in that regards ?

You right Hasbro have made him a copter for their own reasons, I am very sure that mold will be used for Blades, Vortex and maybe even Blast Off, but I still think its a good figure non the less.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:11 am

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