The Energon Pub

[Auto Bot]

Check ebay.Tons of them.And as far as i know the reissue swoop is a KO too

Does this mean there's really no official Swoop reissue?

[Hun-grrr]

Correct.Not 100% sure but he is a KO

[Auto Bot]

Dam!

I've seen one with box and all. Very G1. Very original looking.
Around 41 USD.

I never thought it can be a fake.

[Hun-grrr]

Dam!

I've seen one with box and all. Very G1. Very original looking.

You have no idea
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x54/ ... C00227.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x54/ ... C00226.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x54/ ... C00229.jpg
And that's the low-quality rubsign.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x54/ ... C00228.jpg

[mechajol]

any news if we'll get our KO thread?

that would rock! i also have some beastwars-like insect robots here...

[Wes Crayon]

Alternatively if anyone was wanting to sort out a bulk shipment to save on the international postage I'm pretty sure that the ODB crew would be able to sort out UK distribution among ourselves and keep costs down. So, anyone want to raid Big lots on behalf of your Brit cousins?

Aw, I wish you guys had said something here last week -- I only get out to Big Lots once a month or so and would've been glad to help you out. I do have another excursion scheduled in October, though, so keep me posted -- next time I'll be sure to let you guys know and maybe take down a list or something.

A shame, since the Big Lots in these parts had more oversized WST Prowls than anything else!

[Auto Bot]

Dam!

I've seen one with box and all. Very G1. Very original looking.

You have no idea
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x54/ ... C00227.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x54/ ... C00226.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x54/ ... C00229.jpg
And that's the low-quality rubsign.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x54/ ... C00228.jpg

Notice the year beside the rub sign. 1983. I don't think there's Transformers in that year yet. Didn't TF start in 1984?

[Hun-grrr]

Not quite:
(original g1 Kickback)
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x54/ ... C00230.jpg

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Dam!

I've seen one with box and all. Very G1. Very original looking.

You have no idea
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x54/ ... C00227.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x54/ ... C00226.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x54/ ... C00229.jpg
And that's the low-quality rubsign.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x54/ ... C00228.jpg

Notice the year beside the rub sign. 1983. I don't think there's Transformers in that year yet. Didn't TF start in 1984?

*ahem* Microchange date. Dates on molds don't get updated with new releases, but when changes are made to the molds.

[Transformation619]

Here's a link to the road bots...

http://tfsource.com/Reissues/Road%20bots/road-bots.htm

I don't really know if they are Knock offs but, a guy in geocities said they were...They come in 3 sizes: 1:32, 1:18 and 1:12!

And to fact that there are 2 1:12 scaled road bots? thats huge!They will tower over the 20th anniversary prime!(in robot mode that is)

if you guys just str8 away want to see them, heres one example and it's my fav roadbot

[Valandar]

Here's a link to the road bots...

http://tfsource.com/Reissues/Road%20bots/road-bots.htm

I don't really know if they are Knock offs but, a guy in geocities said they were...They come in 3 sizes: 1:32, 1:18 and 1:12!

And to fact that there are 2 1:12 scaled road bots? thats huge!They will tower over the 20th anniversary prime!(in robot mode that is)

if you guys just str8 away want to see them, heres one example and it's my fav roadbot

They're not ACTUAL knockoffs, more like second-class citizens (original molds made "in the style of" Alternators but at different scales).

[Wes Crayon]

Darn, now I kinda want some of these RoadBots. They look wicked!

To the ODB crew -- were there any other knockoffs in which you guys were particularly interested? I don't get out to BL much, but there's a ready supply of the Quick Change multipacks at another store nearby. Mostly the wannabe Insecticons, Defensor, and Superion knockoffs, though I might have seen some of the fake Dinobots as well. Lots of Robot Masters 2-pack knockoffs also.

[Robo-Chugster]

Darn, now I kinda want some of these RoadBots. They look wicked!

To the ODB crew -- were there any other knockoffs in which you guys were particularly interested? I don't get out to BL much, but there's a ready supply of the Quick Change multipacks at another store nearby. Mostly the wannabe Insecticons, Defensor, and Superion knockoffs, though I might have seen some of the fake Dinobots as well. Lots of Robot Masters 2-pack knockoffs also.

well im currently looking at a full size Devastator KO on ebay for £12 inc p&p (currently), so if you can beat that price then i would definatley be interested, i wouldnt mind a G1 Superion KO as well at some point...just wondering what ou would charge for sending stuff to the UK?

[waaaaghlord]

Personally the oversized WSTs and the Bendy Prime construction vehicles are the standouts that you seem to have been getting in the States that aren't cropping up on ebay. Wasn't there an RiD Megs showing up a little while back as well? I'll have an ask around over in the ODB, see if we can come up with a bit of a wish list.

[Wes Crayon]

well im currently looking at a full size Devastator KO on ebay for £12 inc p&p (currently), so if you can beat that price then i would definatley be interested, i wouldnt mind a G1 Superion KO as well at some point...just wondering what ou would charge for sending stuff to the UK?

I'm not really sure about shipping costs. I've never shipped anything to the UK -- I've never shipped any figures period, really; this would be my first time -- so I can't give any figures. I definitely wouldn't overcharge you guys, though.

As far as the pre-shipping prices go, the Superion and Defensor knockoffs that I've seen are $5 each, which I guess would put them at roughly £2.50 before any additional money for my troubles. I'm not really looking to make a huge profit here, as I'd mainly be doing it to help out the UK crew, but anything extra that you guys think is reasonable would be fine.

waaaaghlord: I still haven't seen any of the Bendy Prime KOs myself, but our Big Lots (which unfortunately I don't get out to much) had a ton of the WST KOs as well as the RID Megatron (see pic below).

But yeah, compile a wishlist or something and we'll see what we can work out. Take your time -- I probably won't be out that way for another few weeks or so.

[waaaaghlord]

Well that's what arrived today. Shall we do a little run down?

Shockwave





Aside from the altered head this is pretty nice. Tight joints and a smooth transformation, although getting the legs to slide out to the side is a little clunky. The electronics worked a little too well on mine, the moment that I pulled out the plastic strip that prevents the batteries from connecting with the terminals it went wild. Only way to shut the thing up was to whip out the old precision screwdriver and take out the batteries. The tubing containing the wire to the gun arm sits quite naturally in gun mode, but gets twisted out of shape near where it comes out of the back in robot mode, but I believe that this is a common problem with the official ones too.

I've never had a Shockwave or Galaxy Man, so I'm quite curious as to whether this is the same size as the original. He's posed with Soundwave in the pictures above so that should give peeps with a good knowledge of early G1 a pretty good guide to comment on this. If he is the same size I'll probably try to find myself a junker Shockwave to make a hybrid out of, particularly since I've got a bash in mind that the head from this would quite suit.

Trainbots/Raiden





Sorry that there's no pics of the individual bots at the moment, but putting him together is quite a faff on, more so than a G1 Devestator, and I couldn't be bothered mucking about with him again tonight.

Plastic seems a bit brittle, but manages to stand up to a bit of force. The gestalt goes together tightly, some of the connections actually being quite hard to push home. The neck connection was a notable example of this.

The colours aren't far off the originals and the stickers have a similar asthetic, despite not being 100% faithful to the original designs. In the manner of KOs the stickers were applied rather crookedly in places, but I've sorted these out without damaging any of them. They do appear to be of the kind that don't adhere particularly well, so I'll just have to see how well they hold up.

No weapons for the individual bots, but he should come with all the gestalt parts. Should? Yes, unfortunately mine came with two right fists. Irritating, but not the worst thing in the world and I'm assuming that this doesn't affect all of them and that I just got unlucky.

Overall I'd say that the quality is better than the average Scramble style gestalt KO and that it's quite a nice set to have.

As with Shockwave I'm curious as to how this compares with the original size wise. Reprolabels don't have a set for Raiden as yet, but if they ever do one and it would fit the KO version I'd certainly give it a look. I'm pretty sure that I've seen this version on ebay labelled as original size before, but again some confirmation from somebody in the know wouldn't go amiss.

Rebirth Megatron





"I will call him... Mini Me."





My favourite of the bunch. I've always loved the Hero Megatron mould and this oversized version is pretty damned sweet. The joints are tighter than any of my three official variants and it seems to support it's weight and hold poses better than it's smaller cousins. Plastic quality seems pretty decent and the missile launcher works.

Couple of simplifications to the mould. First off the small moulded faction symbol fron just below the chin of the Megatron head is gone, but that's to be expected. Secondly the lower arms no longer have an opening flap, but since RM Rebirth Megatron didn't come with the missiles that earlier versions had and the previous versions' missiles would be too small to fit on the KO anyway it's something of a moot point.

This last one is totally recommended, the other two provide a cheap option for getting a version of relatively expensive and hard to find characters and are certainly worth thinking about.

[mechajol]

looks like shockwave is a little too happy to see soundwave

[Auto Bot]

Roadbot weapons are a bit too kiddie in design.

[Transformation619]

Here's a link to the road bots...

http://tfsource.com/Reissues/Road%20bots/road-bots.htm

I don't really know if they are Knock offs but, a guy in geocities said they were...They come in 3 sizes: 1:32, 1:18 and 1:12!

And to fact that there are 2 1:12 scaled road bots? thats huge!They will tower over the 20th anniversary prime!(in robot mode that is)

if you guys just str8 away want to see them, heres one example and it's my fav roadbot

They're not ACTUAL knockoffs, more like second-class citizens (original molds made "in the style of" Alternators but at different scales).

http://www.geocities.com/futuristgroup/vknockoffs.html
Is a link for a bunch of knockoffs, and this one's...prowls grandpa??? he just looks weird!

[Auto Bot]

Haha That one should be categorized 3 notches below knock offs!

[Supercollider]

Blackgaine's had a restock including Kabaya Laserbeak
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :IT&ih=002

He's got Powerglide, Beachcomber, Tailgate & Seaspray as well as some previous stock in new colours.

Rodimus has dropped to $1.00 as well.

[Auto Bot]

Blackgaine's had a restock including Kabaya Laserbeak
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :IT&ih=002

He's got Powerglide, Beachcomber, Tailgate & Seaspray as well as some previous stock in new colours.

Rodimus has dropped to $1.00 as well.

These ones are nice. We can paint the cassettes to our own likings.

[Supercollider]

Here's a link to the road bots...

http://tfsource.com/Reissues/Road%20bots/road-bots.htm

I don't really know if they are Knock offs but, a guy in geocities said they were...They come in 3 sizes: 1:32, 1:18 and 1:12!

And to fact that there are 2 1:12 scaled road bots? thats huge!They will tower over the 20th anniversary prime!(in robot mode that is)

if you guys just str8 away want to see them, heres one example and it's my fav roadbot

They're not ACTUAL knockoffs, more like second-class citizens (original molds made "in the style of" Alternators but at different scales).

They are this seasons Go-Bots (not bad, some decent ideas but ultimately inferior)

[skeletal13]

http://www.geocities.com/futuristgroup/vknockoffs.html
Is a link for a bunch of knockoffs, and this one's...prowls grandpa??? he just looks weird!

Hehe... I can only imagine the look on a kid's face when he gets that in place of a real Transformer!

[Auto Bot]

http://www.geocities.com/futuristgroup/vknockoffs.html
Is a link for a bunch of knockoffs, and this one's...prowls grandpa??? he just looks weird!

Hehe... I can only imagine the look on a kid's face when he gets that in place of a real Transformer!

Nice collection if KO in that link.