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Like SirToys on Facebook · by **SirToys** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:41 am

Auto Bot wrote:Not bad. I'm gonna try that sometimes. I hope i don't get lost. I don't speak Cantonese.

The quality of Jetfire is good for a KO, but not as good as the quality of the Sixshot KO.

by **Auto Bot** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:28 am

Paul Grant wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:Not bad. I'm gonna try that sometimes. I hope i don't get lost. I don't speak Cantonese.

I'm going back to Canada soon, but if I'm back here next year, I don't mind being a Transformers tour guide for anyone. Just as long as they pay everything, like local transportation, meals, accommodation (if necessary), entertainment (if we hit any bars or massage places along the way), and pick up the tab for a few transformers while we shop

The quality of Jetfire is good for a KO, but not as good as the quality of the Sixshot KO.

Ouch!

News Credits: 1 · by **Powersa** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:41 pm

So I went to meet a friend for lunch today and stopped at their Big Lots afterwards. I saw a $5 KO rat. On the back of the box, there're images of a Lio Convoy in beast and bot modes. I guess that's another KO and hope to see it in Big Lots soon.

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:54 pm

That ser of $5 "Beast Tech Robot Fighters" have been out for about 2 years in my area. A giant brown Transmetal Rattrap, a slightly oversized yellow and grey Lio COnvoy, there is also a Beast Machines Optimus Primal and 2 color variants of Heinlad in that set.

by **Wes Crayon** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:37 am

I'm sure y'all have seen these before, but I thought I'd share these favorites (I've opened them, but I just have the boxed and carded pics for now) from my latest trek to Big Lots and Dollar General. That animal combiner is my favorite Quick Change set yet! Probably as close as I'll ever come to having Predaking, anyway.

The Transformax robot is cool, too -- with the lack of hands and the cutesy features, he almost looks like an oversized movie Robot Heroes figurine... that transforms.

News Credits: 1 · by **ionacus** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:08 am

yea that grey bot is a TF: gobots KO i have the original.

by **Iron Prime** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:39 am

mechajol wrote:Finally, I managed to snatch one of these!

Doubledealer bootleg! Since I first saw Doubledealer in a TF catalog back in the 80s, I've dreamed of getting one!

First, he's a powermaster with 2 engines! The missile truck mode looks badass, and the robot mode is awesome! The falcon/vulture mode also looks evil! My first impressions then were "another autobot-decepticon spy?" "punch-counterpunch's counterpart?" "schizo robot?"

Reading Doubledealer's profile over the internet, and reading his backstory in some IDW comicbook made me want the character even more!

Now, was the wait worth it?

PACKAGING

As you can see, doubledealer was packaged in mid-transformation.

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The back of the card shows the instructions. The good news is that the directions were legible, since it was lifted from the manual.

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The engines were also included, and after a bit of urging, they transform!

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I gotta say that I really love the SKAR engine. First time I've seen a Powermaster figure that's not humanoid. He actually reminds me more of Ratbat.

Now, an interesting note here is that while the engines were also included in the KO package, the powermaster features of the toy has been disabled. You can transform KO Doubledealer without the engines attached.

MISSILE TRUCK MODE

Love this mode.

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The plastic used is of typical bootleg quality, but less brittle. Still the mold is dirty and rough. A bit of sanding and trimming will benefit this bootleg toy. Some parts are also loose and some are tight. Exercise caution and apply a bit of force on some parts.

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Stickers are also copied from the original, but applied randomly in some places.

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The wheels wiggle a bit when rolled, but overall, this mode is pretty stable and solid enough for playing.

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FALCON/VULTURE MODE

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Exercise caution when folding the wings. The bootleg plastic needs to be trimmed to enable easy folding. The feet were also a bit loose, so this mode will have a bit of trouble standing up.

The head sculpt of the creature was done good, the beak even opens!

Some funny stuff here - the falcon mode is an autobot! The sticker has since been relocated to the robot mode's shoulders.

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And of course, the bird's phallic weapon...

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ROBOT MODE

One thing i noticed about this mode is that the head is huge!

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No, i didn't mean that the head was upsized. The design itself of the original toy had a big head. Check out these proportions...

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The chestplate won't attach properly because of dirty casting. The legs gave me trouble and they would snap/crack loudly everytime I transform Doubledealer into robot mode. The knees also tend to bend forwards.

Both engines can attach themselves to the port on Doubledealer's abs, but again, you have to apply some force to make 'em attach properly.

Overall, the plastic quality is average, build is on the stable, solid side. Surprisingly, the wings of the bird mode aren't that flimsy!

ROBOT, BIRD, OR MISSILE TRUCK MODE?

Missile truck mode FTW! With all 8 wheels on the ground, this is the most stable mode for displaying. Plus, the toy was designed in such a way that the missile would always point upwards, which looks cool!

Robot mode looks average, and the falcon mode looks a bit clunky.

PROS:
- overall, the toy is solid and stable
- surprisingly not flimsy in bird mode
- colors and stickers are close to G1
- both powermaster engines included
- all modes are good

CONS:
- needs to be trimmed and sanded in some areas
- some parts need to be moved with caution
- wiggly wheels
- random loose and tight joints

RECOMMENDATION:

If you see one of these, dont hesitate to get one, unless you don't like bootlegs and G1 stuff. The bootleg powermaster engines are a nice tough. Makes me wonder if they ever have plans to make copies of old headmasters...

RATING:

3.5 out of 5

A good bootleg of a very good toy. I'd really want to get another one to repaint...

That is awesome! Where did you get it and how much? I had this when I was a kid and loved him, I'm glad you do too! I need a new blue chest piece though, the peg snapped.... :-(

Also: does anyone know of any good KO dinos????

Scaleface wrote:No need to quote 10 pages of photos, but yes, good toy...

Good point. I cleaned it up. I hadn't realized what a massive amount of pics I quoted....

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:58 pm

No need to quote 10 pages of photos, but yes, good toy. I own one muself. I've seen this knockoff sold in both bird and truck mode, but the toy is identical. Colors are closer to the US toy than the Japanese "Doubleclouder" version, but not exactly either.

by **DREWCIFER** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:13 pm

I have that KO and he's fun. You can also X-form him in Bird mode with the Robot's arms haning down, like he's coming in to grab you and then fly away.

The plastic is pretty good for a KO. However, after about a year and half, there are some stress marks starting to appear.

:DEVIL:

by **vidmouse** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:13 pm

These things finally showed up in my area (Michigan)...
'bout time.

Original thread post and some messages..
http://www.seibertron.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=332197&sid=#332197

by **mechajol** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:15 pm

Snarlus Prime wrote:[

That is awesome! Where did you get it and how much? I had this when I was a kid and loved him, I'm glad you do too! I need a new blue chest piece though, the peg snapped....
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thanks! i got this from a local mall here in makati, philippines. the blue chest piece won't fit well. don't know if the peg should help it attach to the chest.

by **Auto Bot** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:11 am

mechajol wrote:
Snarlus Prime wrote:[

That is awesome! Where did you get it and how much? I had this when I was a kid and loved him, I'm glad you do too! I need a new blue chest piece though, the peg snapped....
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thanks! i got this from a local mall here in makati, philippines. the blue chest piece won't fit well. don't know if the peg should help it attach to the chest.

Which mall?

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:08 pm

This is a knockoff redeco of G2 Autobot Obliterator Pyro in movie Optimus Prime colors!

I actually yelled "Oh Hell YeaH!" when I saw this baby online. I have a broken Pyro so I'm hoping it's to scale so I can fix it with parts from this. The original toy was about 7 inches tall too. All I need are his missiles, legs and the lights to fix mine.

Considering the original toy suffered from bad brittle Gold Plastic Syndrome, this might be a case of a knockoff being stronger than the original toy, at least with his gold bits.

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:41 pm

Scaleface wrote:This is a knockoff redeco of G2 Autobot Obliterator Pyro in movie Optimus Prime colors!

I actually yelled "Oh Hell YeaH!" when I saw this baby online. I have a broken Pyro so I'm hoping it's to scale so I can fix it with parts from this. The original toy was about 7 inches tall too. All I need are his missiles, legs and the lights to fix mine.

Considering the original toy suffered from bad brittle Gold Plastic Syndrome, this might be a case of a knockoff being stronger than the original toy, at least with his gold bits.

I'd like to own one of those. I have Pyro, and *crosses fingers*, I hope he never has the problem yours does.

by **Auto Bot** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:25 pm

I think all these China KO are improving.

Like SirToys on Facebook · by **SirToys** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:18 am

bought a bunch more, haven't opened yet,
http://www.actionfigurechecklist.com/Im ... -In/Packet

by **Auto Bot** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:23 am

Hay, Paul. I'm going to GuangZhou on monday. Any tips or guide?

Like SirToys on Facebook · by **SirToys** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:00 am

just got back to Canada, still adjusting to the 12hr time change, if I was still there I'd guide you there myself, no charge

will pm tomorrow.

by **Auto Bot** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:32 am

Paul Grant wrote:just got back to Canada, still adjusting to the 12hr time change, if I was still there I'd guide you there myself, no charge will pm tomorrow.

Thanks

Hope to get some tips before i leave.

by **olokin** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:57 am

Auto Bot wrote:Hay, Paul. I'm going to GuangZhou on monday. Any tips or guide?

Hey Auto Bot don't forget my pasalubong!

Post pics of your TF hunt!

by **Auto Bot** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:14 am

olokin wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:Hay, Paul. I'm going to GuangZhou on monday. Any tips or guide?

Hey Auto Bot don't forget my pasalubong!

Post pics of your TF hunt!

I'll need a little energon, and a lot of luck! *cough* cash *cough*