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Postby Tigertrack » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:43 pm

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vidmouse wrote:
buddahscott wrote:
Scaleface wrote:That's Perceptor - aka the Street Action Team.

I just got a line on some redecoed knockoff minicons and Micromaster sets. All in shocking neon colors.

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Okay, I need those. Where can I get them?


I agree, they are very cool-looking.
I'd even like to see a photo of the one in the 2nd photo
that looks like a blue Hot Rod -- can you post a photo
of it transformed into robot mode please?


I really want that blue MM Hot Rod. Its like alternate universe Hot Rod. And the repainted MM Battle Patrol.

I just purchased the brightly colored NIKE sport label Megs and Prime, I can't wait to have those.

Also I nabbed that Ghost Mirage. I'm just waiting for them to show up.
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Postby mechajol » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:26 pm

Finally, I managed to snatch one of these!
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Doubledealer bootleg! Since I first saw Doubledealer in a TF catalog back in the 80s, I've dreamed of getting one!

First, he's a powermaster with 2 engines! The missile truck mode looks badass, and the robot mode is awesome! The falcon/vulture mode also looks evil! My first impressions then were "another autobot-decepticon spy?" "punch-counterpunch's counterpart?" "schizo robot?"

Reading Doubledealer's profile over the internet, and reading his backstory in some IDW comicbook made me want the character even more!

Now, was the wait worth it?

PACKAGING

As you can see, doubledealer was packaged in mid-transformation.

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The back of the card shows the instructions. The good news is that the directions were legible, since it was lifted from the manual.

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The engines were also included, and after a bit of urging, they transform!

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I gotta say that I really love the SKAR engine. First time I've seen a Powermaster figure that's not humanoid. He actually reminds me more of Ratbat.

Now, an interesting note here is that while the engines were also included in the KO package, the powermaster features of the toy has been disabled. You can transform KO Doubledealer without the engines attached.


MISSILE TRUCK MODE

Love this mode.

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The plastic used is of typical bootleg quality, but less brittle. Still the mold is dirty and rough. A bit of sanding and trimming will benefit this bootleg toy. Some parts are also loose and some are tight. Exercise caution and apply a bit of force on some parts.

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Stickers are also copied from the original, but applied randomly in some places.

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The wheels wiggle a bit when rolled, but overall, this mode is pretty stable and solid enough for playing.

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FALCON/VULTURE MODE

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Exercise caution when folding the wings. The bootleg plastic needs to be trimmed to enable easy folding. The feet were also a bit loose, so this mode will have a bit of trouble standing up.

The head sculpt of the creature was done good, the beak even opens!

Some funny stuff here - the falcon mode is an autobot! The sticker has since been relocated to the robot mode's shoulders.

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And of course, the bird's phallic weapon...

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ROBOT MODE

One thing i noticed about this mode is that the head is huge!

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No, i didn't mean that the head was upsized. The design itself of the original toy had a big head. Check out these proportions...

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The chestplate won't attach properly because of dirty casting. The legs gave me trouble and they would snap/crack loudly everytime I transform Doubledealer into robot mode. The knees also tend to bend forwards.

Both engines can attach themselves to the port on Doubledealer's abs, but again, you have to apply some force to make 'em attach properly.

Overall, the plastic quality is average, build is on the stable, solid side. Surprisingly, the wings of the bird mode aren't that flimsy!


ROBOT, BIRD, OR MISSILE TRUCK MODE?

Missile truck mode FTW! With all 8 wheels on the ground, this is the most stable mode for displaying. Plus, the toy was designed in such a way that the missile would always point upwards, which looks cool!

Robot mode looks average, and the falcon mode looks a bit clunky.


PROS:
- overall, the toy is solid and stable
- surprisingly not flimsy in bird mode
- colors and stickers are close to G1
- both powermaster engines included
- all modes are good

CONS:
- needs to be trimmed and sanded in some areas
- some parts need to be moved with caution
- wiggly wheels
- random loose and tight joints


RECOMMENDATION:

If you see one of these, dont hesitate to get one, unless you don't like bootlegs and G1 stuff. The bootleg powermaster engines are a nice tough. Makes me wonder if they ever have plans to make copies of old headmasters...


RATING:

3.5 out of 5

A good bootleg of a very good toy. I'd really want to get another one to repaint...
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Postby Auto Bot » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:01 am

Who's that Bird-Robot-Missile Truck thing? I saw that, but don't know if i should buy it. Who is he in the TF world?
Doubledealer? Which cartoon series?
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Postby Tigertrack » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:45 am

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Weapon: Sniper Rifle
Auto Bot wrote:Who's that Bird-Robot-Missile Truck thing? I saw that, but don't know if i should buy it. Who is he in the TF world?
Doubledealer? Which cartoon series?


He is Doubledealer, and he is from Masterforce.

Most recently we saw him in the IDW Hot Rod Spotlight working his mojo.
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Postby Auto Bot » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:32 am

tigertracks 24 wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:Who's that Bird-Robot-Missile Truck thing? I saw that, but don't know if i should buy it. Who is he in the TF world?
Doubledealer? Which cartoon series?


He is Doubledealer, and he is from Masterforce.

Most recently we saw him in the IDW Hot Rod Spotlight working his mojo.


Masterforce is Japan-only cartoon, right?
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Postby Tigertrack » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:12 am

Motto: "A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination."
Weapon: Sniper Rifle
Auto Bot wrote:
tigertracks 24 wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:Who's that Bird-Robot-Missile Truck thing? I saw that, but don't know if i should buy it. Who is he in the TF world?
Doubledealer? Which cartoon series?


He is Doubledealer, and he is from Masterforce.

Most recently we saw him in the IDW Hot Rod Spotlight working his mojo.


Masterforce is Japan-only cartoon, right?


In the beginning, but there are good English translations out there, and bad ones too. I believe Metrodome is doing one soon to follow Headmasters?

Anyway, what eBay search gives you the best results for KO's on eBay? Just curious.
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Postby Scaleface » Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:07 pm

"Light our darkest hour" glow-in-the-dark smallest Optimus Prime.

http://cgi.ebay.com/WST-the-smallest-Gl ... dZViewItem

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Postby craggy » Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:41 pm

haha glow in the dark prime is great! they need to make cosmos like that!
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Postby Tigertrack » Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:17 pm

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It looks cool, but seems really bright, more so than a glow in the dark should be.
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Postby Scaleface » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:26 pm

Probably just a trick of the camera. Being the only light source in the photo, it brightened it up.
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Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:53 pm

Well, in a fight with Superman we definately know who'd win.
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Postby Powersa » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:28 am

Picked up a buddy of mine from airport tonight - he brought me KO Alt Shockwave and Wheeljack! It is late so I'll open them tomorrow.
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Postby Scaleface » Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:36 am

A friend of mine in China found this. It's an upscale of Legends Galvatron, standing 7 inches tall (Voyager class!) and it adds a missile launcher. On the down side it's sorta simple and only has robot and car modes.

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Postby Auto Bot » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:00 am

Those KO Alternators looks accurate.
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Postby Deadpool. » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:08 pm

Auto Bot wrote:Those KO Alternators looks accurate.

Strangely accurate for knockoffs....
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Postby Scaleface » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:42 am

I found this one coming out of CHina. It's Legends Bumblebee, nearly a perfect remake, except for one thing, it's 7 inches tall! That's about an inch taller than the Deluxe figure.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Generation1-TRAN ... dZViewItem

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Postby one wing angel » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:47 pm

Scaleface wrote:I found this one coming out of CHina. It's Legends Bumblebee, nearly a perfect remake, except for one thing, it's 7 inches tall! That's about an inch taller than the Deluxe figure.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Generation1-TRAN ... dZViewItem

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Postby one wing angel » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:49 pm

Scaleface wrote:I found this one coming out of CHina. It's Legends Bumblebee, nearly a perfect remake, except for one thing, it's 7 inches tall! That's about an inch taller than the Deluxe figure.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Generation1-TRAN ... dZViewItem

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Postby Powersa » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:09 pm

Scaleface wrote:I found this one coming out of CHina. It's Legends Bumblebee, nearly a perfect remake, except for one thing, it's 7 inches tall! That's about an inch taller than the Deluxe figure.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Generation1-TRAN ... dZViewItem



Just like'em GIANT Mini-Cons baby! lol
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Postby Powersa » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:12 pm

KO Shockwave and Wheeljack
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Postby Deadpool. » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:46 pm

Wheeljack looks more accurate...
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Postby Tigertrack » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:52 pm

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Nemesis Optronix wrote:Wheeljack looks more accurate...


Alt modes on them are a little scary looking, but the bot modes look good! :-?
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Postby Auto Bot » Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:02 am

tigertracks 24 wrote:
Nemesis Optronix wrote:Wheeljack looks more accurate...


Alt modes on them are a little scary looking, but the bot modes look good! :-?


Those are great finds. Absolutely great finds!
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Postby 8rut1cus » Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:15 am

im getting this bruticus ko off ebay(2 cheap 4 origional)
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Postby Powersa » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:53 am

tigertracks 24 wrote:
Nemesis Optronix wrote:Wheeljack looks more accurate...


Alt modes on them are a little scary looking, but the bot modes look good! :-?


Yeah, I think the bot mode is more fault tolerant as all the parts "fan out".

A pleasant surprise for me, KO Shockwave and Wheeljack!
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