The Energon Pub

The Transformers Collecters club shop has provided the offical images of Generations Wave 4
The figures paint schemes seem to have changed
Also, on TCC, they are labeled as Wave 2. This could be a reasonable error, due to the fact that they are repaints of FOC Bruticus/wave 2
Impactor:https://www.toyarama.com/store/-pre-order-transformers-generations-deluxe-wave-2-impactor-1-pc-p471.php
Roadbuster:https://www.toyarama.com/store/-pre-order-transformers-generations-deluxe-wave-2-roadbuster-1-pc-p470.php
Twintwist:https://www.toyarama.com/store/-pre-order-transformers-generations-deluxe-wave-2-twintwist-1-pc-p473.php
Whirl:https://www.toyarama.com/store/-pre-order-transformers-generations-deluxe-wave-2-whirl-1-pc-p472.php
Topspin:https://www.toyarama.com/store/-pre-order-transformers-generations-deluxe-wave-2-topspin-1-pc-p474.php

The Transformers Collectors' Club have updated their Generations Deluxe Wave 4 listings with new images. These are the Wreckers remold of the Fall of Cybertron Bruticus figures which combine into Ruination. They come with new heads and weapons/accessories. Yes, you can BUILD GIANT ROBOT once again.

Impactor



Roadbuster



Twintwist



Whirl



Topspin

I can't wait to pick these guys up! The weapons alone are worth it, but I'll take a wreckers gestalt as well.

Hello Shattered Glass Wreckers. It is nice to meet you.

Must build giant robot...must build giant robot...must build giant robot...

OK, where's the guy that kept complaining that Ruination got cancelled ?

I wonder if Takara is going to do a version of this, and if so, how different will it be?

Not bad. Will get them and leave them uncombined as my classics wreckers. Maybe GDO Springer can be put to some use and hang out with them.

They come with more weapons than Bruticus.
It's the glorious return of Craptech.

I'm liking that Impactor is more purple than gray, and that he has a Wreckers insginia after all.

Now if only they'd come to the retail stores.

Not feelin it. Maybe Impactor is alright but the rest fall flat for me. Plus i don't like any of those molds....accept Blast-Offs(Topspin) mold actually. It's good(ish).

MGrotusque wrote:Not feelin it. Maybe Impactor is alright but the rest fall flat for me. Plus i don't like any of those molds....accept Blast-Offs(Topspin) mold actually. It's good(ish).

you are right my friend.... first: I did not like it as bruticus,, he is just too light weight (he is very flat )for bruticus.... second: being a transformers collectors club member for over 3 years,,, man they kind of suck,, very unorganized and their store/website is always crashing,, no forums tho... honestly I'm only a member for the exclusives figures,,

Over all, I will let this one pass. and most likely this post will be deleted by admin like my other posts. am I doing something wrong ??? if so ,, please let me know

MagnetarPrime wrote:

MGrotusque wrote:Not feelin it. Maybe Impactor is alright but the rest fall flat for me. Plus i don't like any of those molds....accept Blast-Offs(Topspin) mold actually. It's good(ish).

you are right my friend.... first: I did not like it as bruticus,, he is just too light weight (he is very flat )for bruticus.... second: being a transformers collectors club member for over 3 years,,, man they kind of suck,, very unorganized and their store/website is always crashing,, no forums tho... honestly I'm only a member for the exclusives figures,,

Over all, I will let this one pass. and most likely this post will be deleted by admin like my other posts. am I doing something wrong ??? if so ,, please let me know

These aren't club exclusives, they'll be regular retail releases.

Can I buy a box that only has Whirl's head, please?

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Can I buy a box that only has Whirl's head, please?

Sure, but it comes with a robot/helicopter attached to it plus a few weapons .

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Can I buy a box that only has Whirl's head, please?

Sort of:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

If these hit UK reatil I'll likely pick them up-I like the mold(s), just, not as bruticus, to be honest. I'm glad that they have some attempt at a slightly sensible colour scheme too.

xyl360 wrote:Must build giant robot...must build giant robot...must build giant robot...

OK, where's the guy that kept complaining that Ruination got cancelled ?

I wonder if Takara is going to do a version of this, and if so, how different will it be?

That would be me, and I didn't complain it was cancelled. I complained that it appeared that it would. And I am still skeptical until I see someone nab these at a Walmart or something. I could see Hasbro making this a club exclusive expecting people to join their jip of a club to get it. Hopefully not, but I just cannot see how mass retail can handle more pegs to accomodiate these and the IDW figures. I would assume the IDW figures will have different packaging since there is a comic pack in. The price will probably be higher and the packages will be different sized. Unless the IDW figues are pushed off until the fall, which might mappen. At least August perhaps.

I was wondering when these guys were going to show up.

One thing. Maybe it's me but I feel like Twin Twist should've been the white one and Top Spin should've been blue. I know their G1 selves are both blue and white but I'm going by the colors of their limbs and heads which is what seems to dominate (especially in vehicle mode where their torsos are pretty much hidden) Plus Top Spin and G2 Blast Off wouldn't have both been white here.

shockblast2 wrote:

xyl360 wrote:Must build giant robot...must build giant robot...must build giant robot...

OK, where's the guy that kept complaining that Ruination got cancelled ?

I wonder if Takara is going to do a version of this, and if so, how different will it be?

That would be me, and I didn't complain it was cancelled. I complained that it appeared that it would. And I am still skeptical until I see someone nab these at a Walmart or something. I could see Hasbro making this a club exclusive expecting people to join their jip of a club to get it. Hopefully not, but I just cannot see how mass retail can handle more pegs to accomodiate these and the IDW figures. I would assume the IDW figures will have different packaging since there is a comic pack in. The price will probably be higher and the packages will be different sized. Unless the IDW figues are pushed off until the fall, which might mappen. At least August perhaps.

I've never heard of the club ever taking figures from Hasbro cancelled retail and turning them into exclusives, so that's quite a theory you've got there. I'm certain these will be released. They fit right in with all of the love Hasbro's been throwing to the comics lately. To do all this IDW fanwank and then drop the Wreckers would be a travesty, and I'm sure Hasbro knows it.

xyl360 wrote:I've never heard of the club ever taking figures from Hasbro cancelled retail and turning them into exclusives

TFCC Astrotrain from Universe Spacewarp, and TFCC Piranacon from Energon Pirahnaking. Look them up.

Suggesting them to be turned into Club exclusive goes a bit far, the worst that could have happened is them indeed becoming exclusives, but to Toys 'R Us, Walmart or Target.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

xyl360 wrote:I've never heard of the club ever taking figures from Hasbro cancelled retail and turning them into exclusives

TFCC Astrotrain from Universe Spacewarp, and TFCC Piranacon from Energon Pirahnaking. Look them up.

Suggesting them to be turned into Club exclusive goes a bit far, the worst that could have happened is them indeed becoming exclusives, but to Toys 'R Us, Walmart or Target.

Whoa, really? I had no idea those were planned for retail. I thought they just used Piranacon because Hasbro had just used those molds for the BBTS exclusive Piranacon (in normal G1 colors basically), so the club did a repaint.

I didn't know Atrotrain was supposed to be a mass retail release either. How close was that to the release of Classics Astrotrain? Maybe that's why they did it?

edit: I checked on Astrotrain via TFWiki:

Astrotrain was originally an unproduced Universe store exclusive named Spacewarp. At that stage, the toy would have kept the original head mold from Armada Jetfire. He was to come with a redeco of the Space Mini-Con Team as well. Even though he was initially intended as a Toys"R"Us exclusive, no retail chain ultimately ended up wanting to carry him, so Spacewarp was shelved. He was among several proposed exclusives that were ultimately put into retail limbo during the waning of the Universe line.

I think it had a lot more to do with the fact that it was a cancelled store exclusive (because no store would pick it up) than anything else. I haven't heard anything about Ruination being a store exclusive and he's listed on BBTS (and has been for a very long time) as being part of a normal case assortment.

So has any figure to date which was planned as a mass retail release (NOT a store exclusive) been dumped by Hasbro and released by the club?

xyl360 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

xyl360 wrote:I've never heard of the club ever taking figures from Hasbro cancelled retail and turning them into exclusives

TFCC Astrotrain from Universe Spacewarp, and TFCC Piranacon from Energon Pirahnaking. Look them up.

Suggesting them to be turned into Club exclusive goes a bit far, the worst that could have happened is them indeed becoming exclusives, but to Toys 'R Us, Walmart or Target.

Whoa, really? I had no idea those were planned for retail. I thought they just used Piranacon because Hasbro had just used those molds for the BBTS exclusive Piranacon (in normal G1 colors basically), so the club did a repaint.

I didn't know Atrotrain was supposed to be a mass retail release either. How close was that to the release of Classics Astrotrain? Maybe that's why they did it?

The original release date was 2004, during a height of Transformers popularity after Armada. The Universe 2003 line was created to meet the overall demand, and was simply made of repaints with the occasional surprise imported mold from Europe or Japan. A good portion of the line was exclusive, but they were overproduced: especially Walmart had like more than 10 different sets at the same time, that would not move. That resulted in some proposed items being canceled, Universe Spacewarp with the Space Team being one of them. The effects seem to have bled into other main lines as well, with Energon Pirahnaking.

For anyone wondering if Takara will release their own versions of the Wreckers, it has been confirmed (by Hydra) that they will not.

The Japanese ID numbers also support this, with TG-19 Grimlock being the final FOC mold Japanese Generations toy before TG-20 Ratbat (who's based on IDW "Megatron Origin" Senator Ratbat), TG-21 Autobot Springer, TG-22 Blitzwing, TG-23 Metroplex, and TG-24 Optimus Prime & Bumblebee.

xyl360 wrote:

MagnetarPrime wrote:

MGrotusque wrote:Not feelin it. Maybe Impactor is alright but the rest fall flat for me. Plus i don't like any of those molds....accept Blast-Offs(Topspin) mold actually. It's good(ish).

you are right my friend.... first: I did not like it as bruticus,, he is just too light weight (he is very flat )for bruticus.... second: being a transformers collectors club member for over 3 years,,, man they kind of suck,, very unorganized and their store/website is always crashing,, no forums tho... honestly I'm only a member for the exclusives figures,,

Over all, I will let this one pass. and most likely this post will be deleted by admin like my other posts. am I doing something wrong ??? if so ,, please let me know

These aren't club exclusives, they'll be regular retail releases.

I know, I was just giving my opinion on TFCC,

I am not getting my hopes up until i see them on the shelves. I know how fickle mass retail can be, and if Walmart, Target, etc does not want them on their shelves they will replace the sku/tag on the shelves with what they want to buy. and since Hasbro has been gracious enough to repack their first wave from last fall again, I would assume most shelves are blocked by Optimus/Shockwave/Jazz's that noone wants, thus preventing the shelve from being stocked at all before IDW comes July/August.
Not that it was uplifting to see the pics, again, these are coming from TFCC. The same goons that lost everyones CC# to the highest bidder just a year ago. Until I see someone grab one in CA, as they always get them on the west coast first, I refuse to believe these are definitely hitting shelves.
Case in point, RTS Frenzy/Rumble, RTS Bodyblock, Prime Skyquake, just to name a few. Once someone spots them at retail I will jump on the Wrecker bandwagon.

shockblast2 wrote:Case in point, RTS Frenzy/Rumble, RTS Bodyblock, Prime Skyquake, just to name a few. Once someone spots them at retail I will jump on the Wrecker bandwagon.

Prime Skyquake has been sighted, albeit rarely. The UK seems to have plenty of them though.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:Case in point, RTS Frenzy/Rumble, RTS Bodyblock, Prime Skyquake, just to name a few. Once someone spots them at retail I will jump on the Wrecker bandwagon.

Prime Skyquake has been sighted, albeit rarely. The UK seems to have plenty of them though.

We do?