The Energon Pub

by **Golgo13:Professional** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:50 am

Loved this movie.

Seen it 3 times already.

The first time i saw it, i have to admit, it was just o.k but that's because of the overkill of comedy. Once you get used to it, the movie rocks on more levels than one.

Hats off to ILM for producing THE BEST cgi ever to grace the big screen.

With TF2 surely guarenteed now, i can't wait to see more bots.

Bring on Mirage, Hound, Sideswipe, Thiundercracker, Shockwave..and undoubtably Soundwave!

by **Snowtron** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:51 am

I loved the movie i tried to see the 3oclock screening i even drove on the wrong side of the road to get there(and al most got hit by a truck)but i did not make it so i saw it at 8.50 :sad:

i was a little sleepy when i went but ive never enjoyed a movie more even my parents and my SISTER enjoyed it :???:

I loved the humor there lots of great bits (EG when ironhide offered to wack sams parents-his mother assumed he was in her own words having sams speale time-when rachet walked into a powerline) I did not think the humer was over done.it could of used more decepticon involement but its still ausome i loved the bumblebee barricade fight the human parts are good to.
I was worth the wait the best movie ever EVER!

by **wingdarkness** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:30 am

Man this movie rocked!! Damn!!! loud crushing Robots!! Woah!! Just Kill me now!!!

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Now that I've appeased the clones I'll get to my real analysis...

Finallly saw it, so here we go...

Written poorly and cut-edited in nonsensical fashion, this movie jumps from character to character and plot-point to plot-point with not only a lack of coherency but a total disregard for how any story should be told...

First I'll give you the Good:

1) Barricade vs. Bumble-Bee (One of the few quaint battle scenes in the movie that actually had some good atmosphere and barricade actually didn't look like $hit after he transformed which was nice)

2)Bumble-Bee pi$$ing on John Tuturro was pretty funny

3)Prime PWNing Bonecrusher under the bridge

4) Thought Shia Labouf showed glimpses of superstar status although he's waaaay better in Disturbia

5) Starscream $hit-bricking those F-22's

The Bad:
Too much to list so I'll just go right into my final analysis...

This movie was just so badly put together it's not even funny..Ignoring the fact that it craps on g1 lovers such as myself as a stand-alone film it just steamrolls over your brain like Astrotrain shoving plot and characters down your throat not giving a damn if any of it has meaning...
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The transformations while not awful were just totally off..These guys were MORPHING...Mighty Morphing Transform rangers are what they were...I had to stop my head from swiveling off my neck from shaking it at the way Bumble-Bee transformed back into his car-form after beating Barricade OFFSCREEN (which looked like a crumbling piece of yellow paper turning into a car ...And when the transformations didn't look like straight balled-up foil Bay had the camera so close to the vehicles you couldn't even appreciate it...The GMC commercials that air on TV has better, more asthetically-pleasing transformations than this movie...

Next up,Where were the decepticons?? After Barricade first appears the movie goes 1 hour and 39 mins before you see the next Decepticon transform (other than Jar-Jar Binks-Frenzy whose design sucked)...Then Devastator (now a f-ing tank instead of combined constructicons ) and the rest of the bad-guys jump outta the woodworx ready to kick a$$...But I guess that was better than the Autobots crashing from only Moses knows where in the middle of the movie emerging from some tacky-a$$ asteroids landing right on time to find Sam "why the hell not call him Spike" Witwicky...

Moving on the whole Megatron subplot ain't even worth analysis it's so trite so I'll just go right to Megatron's design which looked more like a Power ranger villain than anything else...Hugo Weaving had like 5 lines and didn't capture the essence of the character at all IMO... The overdone end battle was a mess..You couldn't understand $hit, it was just all so random and desensitizing with Bay's soopa doopa close a$$hat zoom-ins that detracted me from being able to root for anybody I liked to win (Kinda fitting the only autobot that looked somewhat like his g1 counterpart died a pathetic death--Jazz--Many people griped after the film it was racist in a way, but I'll leave that alone)...Then the movie ends with a Prime voice over to clip-scenes as the movie progressed into the General Motors MTV music video it truly was...

Other random thoughts:

The reasoning behind Bumble Bee not talking was so lame

Nokia is swedish not Japanese Bay!

The glasses turned out to have ZERO IMPORTANCE!

SO I guess Megan Fox ceases to be hawt once Sam knows her pops' is in jail..WTFBBQ??

Best line of the movie:

Section 7 leader- "You wanna lay the weight of the world on the kid's camero?? That's cool..." LMMFAO when he said that...Almost like an inside joke as Tyrese and Josh don't know jack about bumble-bee but they're putting a gun to someones head to help Sam save him...

Overall I give this movie a 5.25 outta 10 and minus Starscream owning those F-22's in the end I probably would have subtracted another 2 points...I wouldn't try to stop anyone else from seeing this as I understand the fascination with $hit plot and great mindless action, but any real TF fan had to leave the theater like me wondering if Micheal Bay even has a reflection in the mirror...

News Credits: 14 · by **Jetfire Masta** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:02 pm

Saw it yesterday............wow :shock:

It was awesome. Of course it had some flaws like any movie would, but overall, Bay did a great job. I still found the shaky camera hard to follow at times. The Bayformers HAVE grown on me :-x

Hopefully I can get some toys, a Yellow Commaro, and a Nokia cell phone :lol:

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News Credits: 8 · by **ZoneDaiatlas** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:01 am

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News Credits: 1 · by **Exillion** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:17 pm

Hell yeah i just got back from the first U.K. preview that me and my mates booked tickets for. The movie rocked! plain out rocked!

I loved the things that only a tf fan would spot like the beetle, prime and megatrons arm weapons and ratchet and ironhide teaming up.

Some things were a bit silly like the xbox.....much respect to the dude who was buying it as i wouldn't let an interstellar war interfere with my gaming either. But there was nothing bad on level with Vader's "nooo" at the end of sith.

Can't wait for them to bring on more!!

hey mines the first UK review yey!

exillion

by **kendragon** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:50 am

Wow just got back from watching this about 20 mins ago... still trying to get my head around what i saw...

I really enjoyed the film though like some have already said there are some really really annoying things in it.... you could really tell that Michael bay was really using his 'goddamn toy movie' mentality when he was putting it together and took a lot of silly shortcuts with the idea that if they'll believe that there are robot aliens then they will believe in anything..

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS 4000volt SPOILERS

Some of my bad points...

that Aussie chick... she was cute but her massive amount of screen time was a massive waste of time.... the work she was doing amounted to nothing in the end and we didn't need it. Same with her 'better than the entire governments computer geeks' buddy.... they could at least have made him look like a hacker geek.

Sector Seven... while there were some laughs to be had... it got just a little too cartoony after a while... i was fine with the main sector seven guy being a complete loon but the whole organisation seemed to be a joke which didn't really work and got tiring after a while.

The Allspark... cripes this what a load of garbage this thing was... a magic do anything box... I hated the allspark. It was just lazy on Michael Bays part. A box that contains some magic powers than can instantly transform any device into spidery evil robots complete with miniguns and laser canons... why exactly? what was the purpose of this? It was just a 'the stupid audience will buy anything' plot device to make it a threat to the autobots and a lure for the decepticons. Then theres the fact that it starts out the size of a two story house and with a touch of some buttons by bumblebee it 'very badly' completely defies physics and mass shifts itself down to a handy bite size chunk just big enough for it to be held by Sam. Would it have been so hard for bumblebee to maybe just take out the core of it or a vital cube shaped chunk from the main structure that wouldnt allow it to work without it? No were too stupid to care allegedly..

Camera work... why is it that as soon as something good is happening on screen, like some robot on robot ass kicking the camera man starts hopping around like someone with scorpions attached to his balls? i couldnt see half the fighting cause this guys camera was jumping around all over the place... really really hard on the eyes. very very annoying.

Choosing their alt modes... How do the transformers become the vehicle or whatever that they want to be?... now I'll admit this would have always been a tricky one to get working onscreen with the short time allowed, but simply looking at a car or truck and seconds later becoming it was just too fricken easy. It should at the very least have been really energy draining and maybe caused the bots some major pain. That way we would understand that once they've chosen an Alt mode they would have been reluctant to change it. The way it was in the movie they could have swapped there forms anytime they liked...jazz could have became a tank just like brawl(devastator - cripes there was a communications failure that will cause problems in the future) for one fight then turned into a fighter jet for the next. Oh wait... i forgot we are just the stupid audience... what would we know about it.

Editing Looks like freddy kreuger or wolverine went mental with the film and some crazy glue. I kept feeling that i was after missing something whenever i was popped back to a scene... especially during the final battle.

Wow i feel like i've been goin on like this is the worst film ever but nothing could be further from the truth. I really enjoyed the film and silly problems aside am looking forward to seeing it again. I actually hope that bay brings out an extended edition which might fix up some of the horrendous editing and pacing problems. and I really cant wait for the sequel... should be bad ass.

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by **primedalegend** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:11 pm

I went to see a preview of Transformers today & I can safetly say that I shall be going to see it again woohoo!!!!

I was taken a-back by the SFX they where awsome, and for me the best visually since Star Wars A New Hope, Bold statement I hear you cry but $75 million dollars it was worth every penny just to see Prime duke it out With Bone Crusher on the Free-way, Transforming @ 150mph was pretty freaking cool.

Bay didn't let this G1 fan down one bit, the action never let up and the casting was pretty cool, Shia Lebeouf carried the film and was great working as Bumblebee's protectee, Megan Fox well pretty hot and she was a good Heroin too. Shia made the film but to see Cullen back as Prime made it for me there's no-one else who cud do Prime. Weaving made Megatron more villianous than the cartoon n over all the other Bots did there jobs too.

Bumblebee was pretty cool I liked him alot, Prime's still my favourtie Transformer though, liked the new look Iron Hide too.

So a HUGE THUMBS UP from me

AUTOBOTS TRANSFORM & ROLL OUT!!!

A MUST SEE MOVIE OF THE EARLY 21ST CENTURY

by **VkmSpouge** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:05 pm

A good and enjoyable film. Awesome action and some nice humour in there. Hopefully I'll be seeing it again.
There are a couple of points where they can improve, most importantly the Decepticons need more characterisation and more screen time but what I did see of them was great. A couple of action sequences were a little hard to follow.

Guess I'll start waiting for #2 now.

by **Rodentus Prime** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:31 pm

I thought it was 90% awesome but it seemed that the film had two sides to it - a cool terminator type sci-fi movie, and a cheesy comic book movie (sector seven guy,Frenzy - I'm looking at you).

I though sam and his parents, the military team and the robot fighting was great - a lot of the plot logic (or not), the computer geeks section and the lack of characterisation of the decepticons should have been better.

I was surprised at the number of girls in the cinema who seemed to really like it.

Roll on number 2.

by **UnitedJazz** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:27 am

The only big minus the movie get is that you see the Optimus almost the hole movie with those damn lips... :-x

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:03 pm

I just saw this today.

As much as I was looking forward to it, I was disappointed. I honestly expected it to be better than the 80's cartoon and I'm not so sure it was. Not worse, as such, but not better.

I thought the script was terrible. Bizarrely, it felt like they'd tried hard with the dialogue for the Autobots and then sort of forgotten about every other character. Peter Cullen really worked well and was easily the strongest vocal performer, particularly as all the other sounded so similar. Hugo Weaving was pointless and, even theough Charlie Adler's Starscream was good, it was underused.

There was no development of any of the TF's really, except for Optimus Prime, and I had no idea why Megatron did what he did or why any of the Decepticons followed him. Jazz's death seemed perfunctory rather than emotive, especially given that Jazz had hardly any character save for a few annoying lines. Now, I wasn't expecting a true character piece from Bay, but there wasn't even enough Transformer action to warrant a lack of such development, in my view.

I did like the sequence between Barricade, Bumblebee and Sam. I thought that was brilliant. John Turturro and Jon Voight were good. I'm also of the mind that Starscream did lead the Raptor attack on Megatron as we do see him trick the Raptors into destorying one of their own, then he joins the squadron and then it cuts to some Raptors firing on Megatron.

The designs were good but ultimately pointless as whenever they were in motion they just blurred and became indecipherable.

The red and blue on Optimus Prime looked very nice and rich throughout!

Some things didn't make sense to me:

Why was every little Transformer that the Allspark created necessarily evil?

If President Hoover wanted to bury the cube in so much concrete that the N.B.E.'s couldn't find it, why store it and N.B.E.#1 in the same dam?

What was the point of the hackers and what happened to them after the dam incident?

How did Bumblebee's vocal processor get repaired at the end?

Scorponok: why did he have such a crazy 'disguise' and what happened to him after he tunneled into the sand (after his tail was shot off)?

by **OneHit** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:50 am

I have seen the movie twice now with my wife and we both absolutely love it! it's by far my favorite movie of all time! it's non stop entertainment from the comedy to the action all the way through. the robots look fantastic and the transformations are totally awesome! all the vehicles are sweet! all their weapons system are off the charts when they're using them! i think michael bay did a fantastic job on this movie. everyone i know that has seen transformers absolutely loved it too. on a 1-10 scale i would have to give this movie a 10+++.

Greatest movie ever!!!

by **Conceptron** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:45 am

I'm sorry, but how can any true fan give rubbish like this the time and effort for a review. It was such a load of trash and an insult to the franchise that I would not call what I would say of it a review...more like an all out attack. Only good thing of this pile of junk was ILM.

News Credits: 4 · by **Briggs** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:03 am

No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry you cant accept that some people don't like Energon, some people don't like RID, some people don't like this movie, and that some people do.

This was a great intro movie, it did a good job of hooking new fans, old fans, existing fans (who had an open mind and were looking for a new continuity).

No one is taking G1 from you, just because this movie is out does not mean that some almighty force will remove G1 from the time line.

No one cares if you didn't like the movie, and you shouldn't care if we did.

I am not so sure you are a true fan yourself. With the number of posts you have made, being ripped down by facts (go back to the TF movie board if you cant remember, and read peoples replies, we all know how you generally dont do that), you leave a distinct impression you don't actually know much. A matter of fact, I don't really see you post anywhere other then movie boards/sections.

This leads me to believe you either just watch the g1 cartoon and don't care much about anything else (whcih is fine, just shut up about it)

I am convinced you are some Paramount plant, that just wants to rile up as many people as you can. It's the same topic over and over with you, and you hash and re-hash it to make it look different. Can't you figure it out? Even your polls always lose. Every thread you make, it's always a 10 vs 1 against you, why do you bother?

Where were you the few weeks before the movie opened? My god, you are probably Shia or Michael Bay.

Every story has cannon fodder. So what that deceptions were destroyed? So what? How can you not follow the AllSpark part of the story, or think it's ridiculous, do you think the Matrix is ridiculous?

There are lots of things wrong with this movie, and lots of things great. There were lots of things wrong with Harry Potter, and lots of things great. I'm sure there is a Harry Potter counterpart of your self spreading garbage as well.

lol.. "How can you like this movie?" What kind of question is that, get over yourself.

Edit: To finish my review/rip on Contraception--- This movie was great. I didn't like the documentary style of filming some of the bot fight scenes, but it is understandable as it would be cheaper to render this.

I enjoyed the banter between Prime and his bots while at Sam's house. After watching it a few times, it was funny to recall them doing that, and then to recall the human military team doing the same at the beginning of the movie. People whine about lack of character development, but you got a good chunk of it there, but the same people wanted that scene out.

CGI was great, story was a good start, easy to follow for everyone, not that complicated. The intro pretty much did the job.

by **Conceptron** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:08 am

briggs wrote:No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry you cant accept that some people don't like Energon, some people don't like RID, some people don't like this movie, and that some people do.

This was a great intro movie, it did a good job of hooking new fans, old fans, existing fans (who had an open mind and were looking for a new continuity).

No one is taking G1 from you, just because this movie is out does not mean that some almighty force will remove G1 from the time line.

No one cares if you didn't like the movie, and you shouldn't care if we did.

I am not so sure you are a true fan yourself. With the number of posts you have made, being ripped down by facts (go back to the TF movie board if you cant remember, and read peoples replies, we all know how you generally dont do that), you leave a distinct impression you don't actually know much. A matter of fact, I don't really see you post anywhere other then movie boards/sections.

This leads me to believe you either just watch the g1 cartoon and don't care much about anything else (whcih is fine, just shut up about it)

I am convinced you are some Paramount plant, that just wants to rile up as many people as you can. It's the same topic over and over with you, and you hash and re-hash it to make it look different. Can't you figure it out? Even your polls always lose. Every thread you make, it's always a 10 vs 1 against you, why do you bother?

Where were you the few weeks before the movie opened? My god, you are probably Shia or Michael Bay.

Every story has cannon fodder. So what that deceptions were destroyed? So what? How can you not follow the AllSpark part of the story, or think it's ridiculous, do you think the Matrix is ridiculous?

There are lots of things wrong with this movie, and lots of things great. There were lots of things wrong with Harry Potter, and lots of things great. I'm sure there is a Harry Potter counterpart of your self spreading garbage as well.

lol.. "How can you like this movie?" What kind of question is that, get over yourself.

Edit: To finish my review/rip on Contraception--- This movie was great. I didn't like the documentary style of filming some of the bot fight scenes, but it is understandable as it would be cheaper to render this.

I enjoyed the banter between Prime and his bots while at Sam's house. After watching it a few times, it was funny to recall them doing that, and then to recall the human military team doing the same at the beginning of the movie. People whine about lack of character development, but you got a good chunk of it there, but the same people wanted that scene out.

CGI was great, story was a good start, easy to follow for everyone, not that complicated. The intro pretty much did the job.

Watch the movie again...properly. Then you will see the garbage comedy, weak plot, one dimensional characters and bad directing. It's all in there if you are willing to look.

News Credits: 4 · by **Briggs** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:10 pm

Ah i see, so now, someone who does not know me, is telling me that I don't know how to watch a movie properly. Well, that's just prime.

by **mike92998** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:10 pm

I haven't read all the reviews but a few, so here's my view on the movie.

I thought the movie was overall pretty good. Too many one liners and campy jokes though. Someone mentioned Primes face or mouth, kind of weird, right? All the facial expressions were weird to me. As an animator I can see why you might want to use facial expressions as a tool to convey emotions and a more personal connection to the audience but their robots, they use actions and body language.
I like the camero BB had first too. It had character. It was the car Sam feel in love with. Nice homage to G1 BB at the car lot.
Megatron: I'm G1 all the way, from my childhood I always considered him a military bad guy. Maybe something changed in the graphic novel and all that... was he an air plane or something? It would have been cool if he was a old war plane or boat that he transformed into before he froze. It would have looked better.

Sam, he learned nothing. Parents... wast of precise film. Scientist and their mission, great. Lady scientist civilian hacker, funny.

Okay this is turning into a bad review but I'm really trying to like this movie. Maybe I build it up in my mind too much.

Why in the hell did they go into the city w/the cube? Civilians! All those buildings and robots falling on people. Not in the movie but one can only assume there were casualties.

It really should have been more about how awesome autobots are and less on how lame American gov is. I loved to see them transform, it really made the move for me.

Again, overall good movie, the story line was good. Best part was when the rest of the bots came to earth and got together. And transforming scenes were so great.
Bring on the sequel!!

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:47 pm

Conceptron wrote:
briggs wrote:No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry you cant accept that some people don't like Energon, some people don't like RID, some people don't like this movie, and that some people do.

This was a great intro movie, it did a good job of hooking new fans, old fans, existing fans (who had an open mind and were looking for a new continuity).

No one is taking G1 from you, just because this movie is out does not mean that some almighty force will remove G1 from the time line.

No one cares if you didn't like the movie, and you shouldn't care if we did.

I am not so sure you are a true fan yourself. With the number of posts you have made, being ripped down by facts (go back to the TF movie board if you cant remember, and read peoples replies, we all know how you generally dont do that), you leave a distinct impression you don't actually know much. A matter of fact, I don't really see you post anywhere other then movie boards/sections.

This leads me to believe you either just watch the g1 cartoon and don't care much about anything else (whcih is fine, just shut up about it)

I am convinced you are some Paramount plant, that just wants to rile up as many people as you can. It's the same topic over and over with you, and you hash and re-hash it to make it look different. Can't you figure it out? Even your polls always lose. Every thread you make, it's always a 10 vs 1 against you, why do you bother?

Where were you the few weeks before the movie opened? My god, you are probably Shia or Michael Bay.

Every story has cannon fodder. So what that deceptions were destroyed? So what? How can you not follow the AllSpark part of the story, or think it's ridiculous, do you think the Matrix is ridiculous?

There are lots of things wrong with this movie, and lots of things great. There were lots of things wrong with Harry Potter, and lots of things great. I'm sure there is a Harry Potter counterpart of your self spreading garbage as well.

lol.. "How can you like this movie?" What kind of question is that, get over yourself.

Edit: To finish my review/rip on Contraception--- This movie was great. I didn't like the documentary style of filming some of the bot fight scenes, but it is understandable as it would be cheaper to render this.

I enjoyed the banter between Prime and his bots while at Sam's house. After watching it a few times, it was funny to recall them doing that, and then to recall the human military team doing the same at the beginning of the movie. People whine about lack of character development, but you got a good chunk of it there, but the same people wanted that scene out.

CGI was great, story was a good start, easy to follow for everyone, not that complicated. The intro pretty much did the job.

Watch the movie again...properly. Then you will see the garbage comedy, weak plot, one dimensional characters and bad directing. It's all in there if you are willing to look.

That's unfair. Even though I didn't like the movie (despite there being aspects that I loved), I think it's fine if our fellow fans enjoyed it. Let others have their opinion.

by **UnitedJazz** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:51 pm

Leonardo wrote:I just saw this today.

As much as I was looking forward to it, I was disappointed. I honestly expected it to be better than the 80's cartoon and I'm not so sure it was. Not worse, as such, but not better.

I thought the script was terrible. Bizarrely, it felt like they'd tried hard with the dialogue for the Autobots and then sort of forgotten about every other character. Peter Cullen really worked well and was easily the strongest vocal performer, particularly as all the other sounded so similar. Hugo Weaving was pointless and, even theough Charlie Adler's Starscream was good, it was underused.

There was no development of any of the TF's really, except for Optimus Prime, and I had no idea why Megatron did what he did or why any of the Decepticons followed him. Jazz's death seemed perfunctory rather than emotive, especially given that Jazz had hardly any character save for a few annoying lines. Now, I wasn't expecting a true character piece from Bay, but there wasn't even enough Transformer action to warrant a lack of such development, in my view.

I did like the sequence between Barricade, Bumblebee and Sam. I thought that was brilliant. John Turturro and Jon Voight were good. I'm also of the mind that Starscream did lead the Raptor attack on Megatron as we do see him trick the Raptors into destorying one of their own, then he joins the squadron and then it cuts to some Raptors firing on Megatron.

The designs were good but ultimately pointless as whenever they were in motion they just blurred and became indecipherable.

The red and blue on Optimus Prime looked very nice and rich throughout!

Some things didn't make sense to me:

Why was every little Transformer that the Allspark created necessarily evil?

If President Hoover wanted to bury the cube in so much concrete that the N.B.E.'s couldn't find it, why store it and N.B.E.#1 in the same dam?

What was the point of the hackers and what happened to them after the dam incident?

How did Bumblebee's vocal processor get repaired at the end?

Scorponok: why did he have such a crazy 'disguise' and what happened to him after he tunneled into the sand (after his tail was shot off)?

I really like Hugo Weaving's voice on Megatron, and I think for what Megatron did that the Decepticons fallowed him you find in the Prequel booknovel which you canget on amazon.com or co.uk.
With the allspark I can just immagine that at the beginning they are neutral like Ironhide who don't really like protect or destroy the humans.
It's seems to me also that the Transformers are just the second act of the hole movie and not on the first place like the fans liked it to be but they must also see it on their vision, if they would it make like the 80 movie the quote of the buying tickets would be so high because the movie is based in my eyes also for peoples who aren't fans on the Transformers and for being it they must improvising with their work.
And besides if the annoucement is right like Bay and Spielberg said that they would make 5 movies we all can hope that it would be better. Because when you saw the Ghost Rider movie there wasn't really many action scenes either and we must wait 40 minutes unless the first action scene because the movie tells a explaination of how the character Johnny Blaze become Ghost Rider and deep it in. and I think the writers want do it also with the Transformers, sure you can get a movie with more action but then it would happen like the Final Fantasy 7 Advent Children, action 100 % story 0 %.
And I think they all did a good job even if their are some kind of holes in the hole projects I don't like either as you are right that the dialogue is very weak like Jazz hasn't really very much dialogue Bonecrusher zero and optimus Prime hast almost the hole movie those aweful lips but I think the hole project wasn't that easy like we fans imagined to put all thinks together. :-?

News Credits: 1 · by **Whisper** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:54 pm

This is my personal opinion only, and nobody else's. I am speaking for myself, and myself only. I trust forum members on both sides of the 'fence' can understand this totally straightforward statement, and will not make any futile attempts to change my views, because a. it won't work, and b, will only get your ass flamed to hell.

:PEACE:

Ok... I'll keep this simple.

The script was a joke.
Zero character development of The Transformers, which are supposed to be the focal point of this movie, not the **** humans.
The music score was bland and totally unoriginal.
The acting was abysmal.
The 'humour' was infantile at it's worst, and mildly irritating at it's best. Bumblebee 'peeing' on a human? That was humiliating to watch.
The Hackers subplot was a total waste of time.
The Robot designs sucked harder than my Dyson.
Frenzy? What the **** were they smoking?
Aside from Peter Cullen, I couldn't tell the rest of the TF voices apart from each other.
Plot holes the size of Cybertron.
The camera work gave me a headache, and not in a good way. Half the bloody time I couldn't even work out what the heck was going on.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many blatant product placements, which made me feel as though I was watching a glorified commercial. (and before anyone starts, I'm fully aware of the fact that The Transformers is a Hasbro toyline)
Michael Bay and the rest of the crew? Not even going to go there.

I suppose I should go into a really long winded post detailing every single part of this 'movie' and ripping it to shreds, but this... thing... isn't even worth that.

Bottom line: Watched it, detested it, will never, ever attempt to see it again or even acknowledge it's existence.

The part that really twists the knife in for me though, is - when it was first announced - I was really looking forward to this film too... :-(

P.S. I would appreciate it that this post goes unquoted. As I said at the top, these are solely my views on the subject... thankyou.

News Credits: 4 · by **Briggs** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:27 pm

You can rip into it, no worries. We can come around and counter everything you dislike and say why we like it, etc. No need to hold anything back lol

by **mike92998** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:15 am

I agree Whisper... Bay was interviewed about... something about the movie and it came up about primes colour and flames and he said I made Prime with flames because I wanted to. I'm sure he had a million things to do as a director but he could have put a little effort into his reasoning and maybe thought about it more instead of just "cause I wanted to". He also mentioned in that interview that someone wrote to him or the website and said Bay ruined their childhood... I wouldn't go that far but it is what it is and we have to live with this movie as part of the transformers family even if it is that annoying redhead step child.