The Energon Pub

Hi, just wanted to post up some of my pics to see what people thought...

RiD Magnus


G1 Smokescreen

G1 Optimus


Just a few small samples... as I say, let me know what you think!

nice work not sure on the face to smoke screen same less robot like due to the mouth will be happy when the lines are cleaned up on magnus

evilratbat wrote:nice work not sure on the face to smoke screen same less robot like

Yeh I know what you mean - tbh I was using the alternators smokescreen head design - is hard finding that point at which you can put expression into what is ultimately a piece of metal!

Any tips?

Soooooooooo u like drawing from ur toys? Very nice pieces, i am very interested to see what else u have for us

Niq wrote:

evilratbat wrote:nice work not sure on the face to smoke screen same less robot like

Yeh I know what you mean - tbh I was using the alternators smokescreen head design - is hard finding that point at which you can put expression into what is ultimately a piece of metal!

Any tips?

just look at a few people work i somethings just look at human expression and work from there really

thats a piece i did a while ago for someone on one of there fan characters



See what i mean by the mouth thought this maybe good as a ref picture or check out my da http://darkratbat.deviantart.com

Nice! I like the Smokescreen. You did an excellent job on the hands (hate drawing hands)

I'm really diggin' the RID Ultra Magnus. It's like a Kollwitz style Transformer! Very nice!

Charger426 wrote:Nice! I like the Smokescreen. You did an excellent job on the hands (hate drawing hands)

I agree - i've got so many pics that have gone really well but then are let down by some poor attempt at hands!!!

BumbleScream84 wrote:I'm really diggin' the RID Ultra Magnus. It's like a Kollwitz style Transformer! Very nice!

Thanks! Thought it gave the pic a but more action than the usual line-drawing

A couple more I managed to dig out...



I'll get more up soon but i'm currently lacking a scanner

if your getting trouble on the hands draw the knuckles first and work the hand from there

evilratbat wrote:if your getting trouble on the hands draw the knuckles first and work the hand from there

That is pretty good advice

The main thing with hands is to remember that although the have lots of individual moving planes they are a single unit (eg-it has to look like a hand not a bunch of bananas!)

To in that regard there are 2 tricks i will mention;

1-Try drawing the general postive space of the hand-then even if anatomical details are wrong, teh whole thing will look right.

Which ties into my second piece of advice......

2-Forget getting it perfect, if u need to fudge a bit-or hide it in shadow do.

Ultamitly drawing is deception, so u can lie a bit

Wow, I'm liking this art. Especially the smokescreen. In fact, may I color it for you?

GrimSqueaker wrote:

evilratbat wrote:if your getting trouble on the hands draw the knuckles first and work the hand from there

That is pretty good advice

The main thing with hands is to remember that although the have lots of individual moving planes they are a single unit (eg-it has to look like a hand not a bunch of bananas!)

To in that regard there are 2 tricks i will mention;

1-Try drawing the general postive space of the hand-then even if anatomical details are wrong, teh whole thing will look right.

Which ties into my second piece of advice......

2-Forget getting it perfect, if u need to fudge a bit-or hide it in shadow do.

Ultamitly drawing is deception, so u can lie a bit

Good point i think hands and feet are a common to hand problems on in any case feet being a real pain in the ass to get right first time.

3-We have rubbers and some times if you draw the parts of the hands as sticks and joints you can build up from there

Sherade wrote:Wow, I'm liking this art. Especially the smokescreen. In fact, may I color it for you?

Yeh go ahead - you're more than welcome! I'd be interesting to see what it comes out like - i'm useless at colouring myself!

GrimSqueaker wrote:

evilratbat wrote:if your getting trouble on the hands draw the knuckles first and work the hand from there

That is pretty good advice

The main thing with hands is to remember that although the have lots of individual moving planes they are a single unit (eg-it has to look like a hand not a bunch of bananas!)

To in that regard there are 2 tricks i will mention;

1-Try drawing the general postive space of the hand-then even if anatomical details are wrong, teh whole thing will look right.

Which ties into my second piece of advice......

2-Forget getting it perfect, if u need to fudge a bit-or hide it in shadow do.

Ultamitly drawing is deception, so u can lie a bit

All good advice - am trying to find time to put it into practice now! I will post up more as soon as I can.

Niq wrote:

GrimSqueaker wrote:

evilratbat wrote:if your getting trouble on the hands draw the knuckles first and work the hand from there

That is pretty good advice

The main thing with hands is to remember that although the have lots of individual moving planes they are a single unit (eg-it has to look like a hand not a bunch of bananas!)

To in that regard there are 2 tricks i will mention;

1-Try drawing the general postive space of the hand-then even if anatomical details are wrong, teh whole thing will look right.

Which ties into my second piece of advice......

2-Forget getting it perfect, if u need to fudge a bit-or hide it in shadow do.

Ultamitly drawing is deception, so u can lie a bit

All good advice - am trying to find time to put it into practice now! I will post up more as soon as I can.

if you get chance get a da account to show off your uk fellow uk member my site is http://darkratbat.deviantart.com

evilratbat wrote: if you draw the parts of the hands as sticks and joints you can build up from there

Fantastic advice for all drawings! U oughta always draw out ur pic as a sketch first, this is why comics have pencil artists!!!