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Another issue with Masterpiece megatron

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Re: Another issue with Masterpiece megatron

Postby El Duque » Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:20 pm

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SpacerAM2 wrote:That happened to me with him twice. One time the screw loosening ,and the other it coming off. But it's easy to fix. There's a screw on the shoulder. Tighten it with a small screwdriver. Mp Megatron isn't a figure you want to be transforming. Snapped up two pegs during a couple of transformations on mine. Need two different spare parts to fix him. It will be a while until I see those parts on ebay. Not going to transform him anymore from now on. Warning don't mess with him. He's too fragile like Mp Starscream.

What's the point in buying a Transformer if it's too fragile to transform? Doesn't that sort of kill the point in it? At the price they ask for him, he should be a God damn brick when it comes to his pieces. We shouldn't see 100's of complaints coming in that a part has broken or fallen off.


I've heard negative and positive reviews of the figure. He's not perfect, but the positives seem to far outweigh the negatives. I've spoken to a few people about him (ones that actually own him) and they all said that yes, he is fragile, but he's not impossible to transform or keep in pristine condition.

A lot of it is tempers flaring, ham fisted transformations, and overall impatience, plus people not using the instructions. (We've all seen the people who proclaim "I can do it without instructions!")

From all accounts I've heard, if you use commons sense, take your time, don't get angry (and it's possible for him to make you mad because it's a bunch of panels, flipping, twisting, etc) and just enjoy the process.

They're right, he's not a toy to battle with, but he's perfect for patient collectors who like to transform here and there.


Patience is definitely a virtue with this guy. I sat mine down a walked away about half way through the first time.
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Re: Another issue with Masterpiece megatron

Postby SpacerAM2 » Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:34 pm

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Autobot032 wrote:
TheMuffin wrote:
SpacerAM2 wrote:That happened to me with him twice. One time the screw loosening ,and the other it coming off. But it's easy to fix. There's a screw on the shoulder. Tighten it with a small screwdriver. Mp Megatron isn't a figure you want to be transforming. Snapped up two pegs during a couple of transformations on mine. Need two different spare parts to fix him. It will be a while until I see those parts on ebay. Not going to transform him anymore from now on. Warning don't mess with him. He's too fragile like Mp Starscream.

What's the point in buying a Transformer if it's too fragile to transform? Doesn't that sort of kill the point in it? At the price they ask for him, he should be a God damn brick when it comes to his pieces. We shouldn't see 100's of complaints coming in that a part has broken or fallen off.


I've heard negative and positive reviews of the figure. He's not perfect, but the positives seem to far outweigh the negatives. I've spoken to a few people about him (ones that actually own him) and they all said that yes, he is fragile, but he's not impossible to transform or keep in pristine condition.

A lot of it is tempers flaring, ham fisted transformations, and overall impatience, plus people not using the instructions. (We've all seen the people who proclaim "I can do it without instructions!")

From all accounts I've heard, if you use commons sense, take your time, don't get angry (and it's possible for him to make you mad because it's a bunch of panels, flipping, twisting, etc) and just enjoy the process.

They're right, he's not a toy to battle with, but he's perfect for patient collectors who like to transform here and there.


Patience is definitely a virtue with this guy. I sat mine down a walked away about half way through the first time.



What you don't think I've been patient with him? Patient enough I've been. The small tabs on the thigh plates or the front tabs on the trigger halves are a piece of garbage. The plastic there is too flimsy.
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Postby JustinRODimus » Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:54 pm

lol, i almost bought a mp-05 good thing i didnt. i really want a g1 megatron though
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Postby DevastaTTor » Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:16 pm

After reading all of these comments, I might just have to get an Encore release of the original. Guess there's no beating good, old (G1) Megatron.
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Postby 0ctane » Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:26 pm

This is what happened to mine second time i transformed it

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wasn't too bad though, just unscrewed the screw from his arm and re-attached it back around the shoulder. is as good as when new.

I really like MP-05 as a 'figure' and thats how i'm treating him. just put him in some good poses and leave him in display. never gonna transform him again. too much risk of breaking him.

so yeah... plagued by so much bad quality but as a collector i had to have him. not much else is G1 show accurate that can stand next to MP Prime.
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Postby OptitronPrime » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:11 pm

I'll just get classics Megs and repaint him G1 accurate
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Postby Professor Smooth » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:55 am

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mosh magnus wrote:Exactly why I'm not getting MP's. They AREN'T toys.

Correction- MP-01, Masterpiece Prime, 20th Anniversary, or WHATEVER you want call him is one of sturdiest Transformers I own. MP-05 is a POS and will NEVER grace my collection. I've got better TF's to buy rather than waste $100-$200 on an inaccurate showpiece! :-x

Scream it to the heavens brotha! It's retarded that the figure is over a $100 and yet the quality control is a complete failure. I swear Takara is turning into Yamato lately.


The retail price on MP Megatron was only about 65 USD. If you paid 100-200 USD, you got taken.
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Postby Noshrok Grimskull » Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:03 am

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My MP-05 hasn't shown any of the problems mentioned here. *knocks on wood*
I transformed him about 8 times by now and and I had nothing break, come off, become loose or start to rust.
My Megs even took an unfortunate nose-dive from the top of my showcase once and escaped unharmed!

The only small issue I have with mine is the the gun sight on the barrel is not perfectly centered but instead is tilted slightly (but noticably) to the left.
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Postby Auto Bot » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:00 am

What about the reported "rusting" of MP Megatron?
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Postby Counterpunch » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:16 am

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Professor Smooth wrote:If you paid 100-200 USD, you got taken.


Whatever.

I don't know a single importer who doesn't put a 50-100% markup on anything Transformers related.

Not only that but the hype surrounding the stupid figure drove prices up immediately.

Maybe at 150-200 you really start to overpay, but below that and pretty much everyone in the States was in the same boat. The cheapest I saw these go for was like $90 at tfsource.com.
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Postby Auto Bot » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:31 am

MP Megs goes for around $100 in our area.
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Postby SentinelPrime878 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:19 am

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I love my MP-5 Megatron other than he doesn't have the best balance !

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Postby Auto Bot » Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:47 am

He's quite big for a gun.
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Postby Autobot032 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:13 am

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Auto Bot wrote:He's quite big for a gun.


Waay too big for the real Walther. Of course they had to do that to accommodate all of his 'formable innards.

And to those of you who were offended by my comments earlier, I apologize. I went back over my post and realized it had quite a harsh tone. I know that Takara sends out lemons sometimes (all products have a lemon somewhere down the line) and that you've been patient with it. I just focused on the fact that there are some people out there who do screw around too much and they're too rough on the figure, hence the breaking. But...that was a blanket statement used on all of you and I apologize, that was uncalled for.
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Postby Auto Bot » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:47 am

The size is necessary too to match up to Prime's size.
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Postby zemper » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:54 am

OptitronPrime wrote:I'll just get classics Megs and repaint him G1 accurate


or better yet, you could wait for next year's release of Takara Classics, which according to rumor will feature more anime-accurate repaints.


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Postby Auto Bot » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:58 am

Classics in G1 colors? This i got to see.
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Postby Rodentus Prime » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:19 pm

Of Mp megs, Skywarp and 20th prime, Prime is the only one I have had problems with - the leg and other bits falling off repeatedly. I don't think that Megs is particularly fragile - it's just that for the first time you transform him he's very tight so you have to use a lot of force CAREFULLY.

BTW I believe the 'rust' isn't actually rust - it's tarnish that you can clean off.
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Postby Gauntlet101010 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:21 pm

Bah. I'm still happy with my MP Megs. I'll just have to be careful.

Very .... very .... careful.

Maybe I'll buy a broken one so I have one in gun mode forever. That's the ticket.

I did pay over 100 CAN for him. :-x Well .... it as only a little over the reissue Megatron, so I figure it was proportional. He's the most expencive peice in my collection right now. Irnoically ousting G1 Megs from that spot.
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Postby Counterpunch » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:27 pm

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Rodentus Prime wrote:BTW I believe the 'rust' isn't actually rust - it's tarnish that you can clean off.


You're entirely correct.

(It doesn't change the fact that many people still refuse to acknowlege this point)
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Postby mpchi » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:33 pm

Megatron is retail at 9800 yen. Its around US$ 85. Being it at $65 or $200 is a bit of an exaggeration.

I transformed mine a few times. Other than the fixable loose ankle ball joint, a stressed locking peg & some unavoidable minor paint scratches, no other issues as people reported. No tarnish or stripped screws. The figure has nice tight ratchet joints all over. Just need to be very careful when transform. Definitely worth the $100 (shipped) I paid though.
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Postby kirbenvost » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:07 pm

skywarp-2 wrote:none of those issues seem to be effecting my MP Megatron... my shoulder joints and feet are cosmic rust free, the chest is placed correctly, there are no loose screwsa, and for the most part he's like perfect.. I've transformed him several times, and still he's as solid as ever and his joints are very very tight.. almost too tight, but that's okay.. i don't want a loose transformer...

I like them to be prudish...and not give up that position easily..errr...ummm.... on the shelf that is..

maybe it's a hit or miss.. I just kept looking for Rust and other defects.. maybe it was a certain batch of feet that were tainted in their production..but my chrome feet look just as sparkily and bright as the day i opened him...


I must be one of the lucky ones here as well...no problems to report. But I haven't transformed mine in months, that could be the difference.
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Postby Flashwave » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:58 pm

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0ctane wrote:This is what happened to mine second time i transformed it

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wasn't too bad though, just unscrewed the screw from his arm and re-attached it back around the shoulder. is as good as when new.

I really like MP-05 as a 'figure' and thats how i'm treating him. just put him in some good poses and leave him in display. never gonna transform him again. too much risk of breaking him.

so yeah... plagued by so much bad quality but as a collector i had to have him. not much else is G1 show accurate that can stand next to MP Prime.


That's exactly what I'm talking about. It;s an easy fix, I agree. (Still did a number on my thumb tying to get the ratchetinmg joint evfened up, but it'll heal) The problem is that the arm fell out beacuse the plastic is stripping. And if this keeps happening, youcan't screw it back on. There'll be nothing to screw into.

Anmd the bi9ggest transforming I di with him, was for the Justitoys add ons. Not to slam around in a battle.
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Postby MUGENDC5 » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:23 pm

Transformed him once that took me about 2hrs (oh! I was watching smallville at the same time.) LOL! and I thought I broke some pieces. Well he's back in his box. Not gonna touch that again. ;)^
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Re: Another issue with Masterpiece megatron

Postby Optimist_Prime » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:19 pm

Rodentus Prime wrote:Of Mp megs, Skywarp and 20th prime, Prime is the only one I have had problems with - the leg and other bits falling off repeatedly. I don't think that Megs is particularly fragile - it's just that for the first time you transform him he's very tight so you have to use a lot of force CAREFULLY.

WTF!?! Granted I only have the DVD Anniversary Prime, but I played with, more like posed, him today. Like I said, probably the sturdiest TF I own. Like Muffin said,
TheMuffin wrote:What's the point in buying a Transformer if it's too fragile to transform? Doesn't that sort of kill the point in it? At the price they ask for him, he should be a God damn brick when it comes to his pieces. We shouldn't see 100's of complaints coming in that a part has broken or fallen off.

He took the words right out of my mouth.
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