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News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:24 am

Janus Prime wrote:That Optimus Primal is a tough toy to top, he still holds as a figure almost 20 years later.

Got that right. Still, it's unfortunate that he's less show-accurate this time around, despite using that head and chest.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:23 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Janus Prime wrote:That Optimus Primal is a tough toy to top, he still holds as a figure almost 20 years later.
Got that right. Still, it's unfortunate that he's less show-accurate this time around, despite using that head and chest.

I don't hide the fact I'm not a fan of beast wars but I have to agree that Primal toy is fantastic. It does so much in a relatively small space.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:06 pm

Hold up... wasn't Primal supposed to use the smaller Deluxe-ish version of the mold? :???:

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:09 pm

Mindmaster wrote:Hold up... wasn't Primal supposed to use the smaller Deluxe-ish version of the mold?

Nope. Original pics were of the Ultra.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:16 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Hold up... wasn't Primal supposed to use the smaller Deluxe-ish version of the mold?
Nope. Original pics were of the Ultra.

Huh. Could've sworn it was the Deluxe. :-?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:48 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Hold up... wasn't Primal supposed to use the smaller Deluxe-ish version of the mold?
Nope. Original pics were of the Ultra.

Huh. Could've sworn it was the Deluxe.

The primary difference between Robot Masters and Beast Wars Reborn Convoys is in the hands. The larger original has closed fists, while the smaller remake has open hands:

News Credits: 1 · by **Janus Prime** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:46 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Janus Prime wrote:That Optimus Primal is a tough toy to top, he still holds as a figure almost 20 years later.
Got that right. Still, it's unfortunate that he's less show-accurate this time around, despite using that head and chest.

I don't hide the fact I'm not a fan of beast wars but I have to agree that Primal toy is fantastic. It does so much in a relatively small space.

I have the DX version and it´s just wonderful; any chance to get this mold is a good chance. The DX T-Rex Megatron is also outstanding.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:50 pm

Janus Prime wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Janus Prime wrote:That Optimus Primal is a tough toy to top, he still holds as a figure almost 20 years later.
Got that right. Still, it's unfortunate that he's less show-accurate this time around, despite using that head and chest.

I don't hide the fact I'm not a fan of beast wars but I have to agree that Primal toy is fantastic. It does so much in a relatively small space.

I have the DX version and it´s just wonderful; any chance to get this mold is a good chance. The DX T-Rex Megatron is also outstanding.

By "DX" do you mean the Telemocha Series DX versions or the Deluxe class scaled-down versions?

News Credits: 1 · by **Janus Prime** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:21 pm

Sabrblade wrote:By "DX" do you mean the Telemocha Series DX versions or the Deluxe class scaled-down versions?

I own the Ultra-class Telemocha redecos. I love having the exact same molds that were available in the 90´s but with more show accurate paint jobs.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:03 pm

Janus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:By "DX" do you mean the Telemocha Series DX versions or the Deluxe class scaled-down versions?

I own the Ultra-class Telemocha redecos. I love having the exact same molds that were available in the 90´s but with more show accurate paint jobs.

I've never actually seen any in-hand pics of those versions before, but the official stock photos make them look like the most show-accurate versions of those molds ever, minus their lack of the Beast Wars Reborn tooling. Had they included those, they would have been the numero uno perfect versions of those molds.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:24 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Hold up... wasn't Primal supposed to use the smaller Deluxe-ish version of the mold?
Nope. Original pics were of the Ultra.

Huh. Could've sworn it was the Deluxe.

The primary difference between Robot Masters and Beast Wars Reborn Convoys is in the hands. The larger original has closed fists, while the smaller remake has open hands:

I think he means the Deluxe sized one that was released under the Cybertron banner.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:27 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Hold up... wasn't Primal supposed to use the smaller Deluxe-ish version of the mold?
Nope. Original pics were of the Ultra.

Huh. Could've sworn it was the Deluxe.

The primary difference between Robot Masters and Beast Wars Reborn Convoys is in the hands. The larger original has closed fists, while the smaller remake has open hands:

I think he means the Deluxe sized one that was released under the Cybertron banner.

But that one isn't a "smaller Deluxe-ish version of the [Ultra] mold".

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:53 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Hold up... wasn't Primal supposed to use the smaller Deluxe-ish version of the mold?
Nope. Original pics were of the Ultra.

Huh. Could've sworn it was the Deluxe.

The primary difference between Robot Masters and Beast Wars Reborn Convoys is in the hands. The larger original has closed fists, while the smaller remake has open hands:

I think he means the Deluxe sized one that was released under the Cybertron banner.
But that one isn't a "smaller Deluxe-ish version of the [Ultra] mold".

Close enough no?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:14 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think he means the Deluxe sized one that was released under the Cybertron banner.
But that one isn't a "smaller Deluxe-ish version of the [Ultra] mold".

Close enough no?

News Credits: 1 · by **Janus Prime** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:45 pm

Sabrblade wrote:I've never actually seen any in-hand pics of those versions before, but the official stock photos make them look like the most show-accurate versions of those molds ever, minus their lack of the Beast Wars Reborn tooling. Had they included those, they would have been the numero uno perfect versions of those molds.

The stock photos are very accurate, but they don´t capture the shiny effect of the silver on the limbs and the blue on the head of Primal, they really make the toy stand out in the shelf, despite all the black. Megatron is just great, the beast mode eyes pop up beautifully and it can scare you at times, he looks evil.

I tried to take a few pics but they didn´t come out too well.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:56 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think he means the Deluxe sized one that was released under the Cybertron banner.

Nah, I meant the down-sized Robot Masters Deluxes.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:28 am

This November 2014 from amiami

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... 2&page=top

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... 3&page=top

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... 4&page=top

Roadbuster btw is all sold out.

Based on the links and the contents of each item, this will sport a new plastic/paint apps but no decals (for Whirl and Roadbuster that is)

by **shockblast2** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:10 am

I watched some of the Beast Wars stuff just last night for the first time ever. And it SUCKS! I couldn't believe they called that junk Transformers! Crappy characters, even worse CGI animation, and shoddy voice work.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:46 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think he means the Deluxe sized one that was released under the Cybertron banner.
But that one isn't a "smaller Deluxe-ish version of the [Ultra] mold".

Close enough no?

Yeah, these look close enough. I'm not that picky. Then again he did say he meant the Robot Master version so the point is moot.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:10 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, these look close enough. I'm not that picky. Then again he did say he meant the Robot Master version so the point is moot.

The point I was getting at is that it's pretty hard to confuse such distinctly different shapes and colors to think that the top is the same toy as the bottom.

And I knew he meant the RobotMasters mold, which does indeed look like the Ultra mold shrunk down (since it basically is), making it much easier to confuse the to in a more understandable case.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:29 am

Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, these look close enough. I'm not that picky. Then again he did say he meant the Robot Master version so the point is moot.
The point I was getting at is that it's pretty hard to confuse such distinctly different shapes and colors to think that the top is the same toy as the bottom.

And I knew he meant the RobotMasters mold, which does indeed look like the Ultra mold shrunk down (since it basically is), making it much easier to confuse the to in a more understandable case.

Eh, robot to ape, ape to robot. It all gets there in the end somehow.

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:44 am

Once again from the Amazon Japan we have some really nice official high res images of LG03 Tankor, LG04 Roadbuster, and LG05 Whirl from Takara Tomy's recently announced Transformers Legends line. Each features a differing deco compared to their domestic Hasbro counterparts. Check out the great images mirrored below:

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:06 pm

Looks pretty good! Loving Tankor in particular. Shame that the inevitable crazy price of Takara imports makes army building out of the question.

Also, am I the only one who finds it funny that the Japanese releases of the Beast Era figures are (mostly) infinitely superior to the Hasbro ones, in spite of the Japanese dubs of Beast Wars and Beast Machines being utter abominations? Even the Japanese thought it was awful IIRC.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:06 pm

EDIT: Duplicate post. Damned Kremzeeks must be in my PC.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:34 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:Also, am I the only one who finds it funny that the Japanese releases of the Beast Era figures are (mostly) infinitely superior to the Hasbro ones, in spite of the Japanese dubs of Beast Wars and Beast Machines being utter abominations? Even the Japanese thought it was awful IIRC.

I prefer Hasbro's Waspinator & Rhinox (except for the guns)...