The Energon Pub

[Rial Vestro]

Will we see Fort Max or Metroplex Transform?

They are just the names of buildings. They are not alive or sentient and likely won't transform.

The reason I say this is because, if they were alive and giant robots, then what was the use in creating Omega Supreme if they already had a pair of giant Autobots?

If they had to create Omega Supreme, then they must not have had any giant autobots to begin with.

What if Fort Max and Metroplex weren't built till AFTER Omega Supreme, did you ever think of that? The cityformers could of been created after the great war as a safty procation in case the Decepticons ever came back and it's possible that could come to play in "End Game" when they end up haveing a fight Omega Supreme.

[Rodimus2006]

I dont think that Metroplex will transform but rather go into defensive or offensive weapons platform mode as seen with the Cannon Platform they fired at Omega but missed.

I have no idea what is instore for Endgame but I guess we will find out in a couple of hours will here anywas it is EST.

I am so excited I am staying up all night just to watch the episode.

I stay up late anyways cause I like watching Adult Swim cause of King of the Hill, Family Guy and American Dad.

I also watch Bleach and Code Geass.


I whish that Sci-Fi would show the remaining episodes of Mobile Suit Gundam 00 as season 1 just finished now they are just showing Gurregen Lagan and Rave Master.

I cant wait Endgame is upong us who will live who will die who will make the ultimate sacrifice in it.

Also will Sari Sumdacs whole truth behind her origins be revealed at last.

Will Starscream get his body back

Will the Autobots save Arcee

Will the Purple Female Seeker show up finally

What of the Constructicons, Soundwave, Blackarachnia and the others will the be in the epic conclusion.

Also will the battle take place on Earth as we saw Omega transwarp behind the Dark Side of Earth's Moon.

Also will the Autobot's Spacebride play a role in this. The one on Earth not the Nexus on Cybertron.

Will SP get what the douchebag deserves

Will Optimus become the Magnus or Commander

What of the fate of Ultra Magnus

Will Team Rodimus and Team Char make a cameo appearance like they did in transwarped.

Tune in and find out as this could be Animated curtain call ????

[Dead Metal]

Will we see Fort Max or Metroplex Transform?

They are just the names of buildings. They are not alive or sentient and likely won't transform.

The reason I say this is because, if they were alive and giant robots, then what was the use in creating Omega Supreme if they already had a pair of giant Autobots?

If they had to create Omega Supreme, then they must not have had any giant autobots to begin with.

Maybe they were created after Omega was made? But then again, the Omega Supreme lab is in Metroplex.

And why? The war was over. They had no more need for any giant robots.

For the same reason the USA has Nukes and continues to develop WOMD during peace time, to show potential oponents not to f**k with them.

[Tristar]

In all things there is a purpose. Magnus knew where the allspark was he always knew! First he sends Prowl to be it's guardian then he trains Optimus in hopes of him finding the Allspark. Optimus is exspelled from the Elite Guard training but, Magnus still sees potiental in him and Sends Optimus with Omega and Ratchet(The security patch Megatron needs is the Magnus Hammer!). Magnus gives Optimus his first assignment which just happens to be near Prowl and the Allspark.




Endgame part one builds to Epic level then leaves us Hanging GAAAAHHH! Good Star Saber one reference.

[Sabrblade]

Will we see Fort Max or Metroplex Transform?

They are just the names of buildings. They are not alive or sentient and likely won't transform.

The reason I say this is because, if they were alive and giant robots, then what was the use in creating Omega Supreme if they already had a pair of giant Autobots?

If they had to create Omega Supreme, then they must not have had any giant autobots to begin with.

What if Fort Max and Metroplex weren't built till AFTER Omega Supreme, did you ever think of that?

Deal Metal already suggested that. But that still doesn't work out as, once the war was over, they didn't have any need for any giant robots as (an unfair) peace had settled.

If they were to have needed any giant robots, they wouldn't simply make new ones if they already had Omega Supreme. They would just simply repair him, as "A Bridge Too Close" showed us this was possible.

Besides, in this series, The Metroplex is basically this series' version of the Council Citadel from Beast Machines. Not to mention that-- Oh, forget it. I'm not repeating what I said before. Just read this:

I'd say that they (or at least Fort Max) would change into a weapon-armed form. But I wouldn't exactly call that an actual "transformation", more like a "conversion". This is mainly due to the commonest use of the word "transform", in this series, as to change from one object into a "robot mode". Now I know it has been used otherwise to refer to changing into any other mode such as a "battle station mode" or simply a "battle mode". But, saying that these two buildings might "transform" could cause some confusion as the first thing to come to the mind of just about anyone would be the possibility of them assuming robot modes.

Anyways, I doubt that The Metroplex would change at all, as it is a government building, rather than a military building which is more likely to assume a battle form.

As for Fortress Maximus, which is a military building, it could change to reveal a bunch of hidden weaponry behind its fortress walls. Though, I doubt it will actually change form, aside from that giant cannon atop its central tower.

In other words, I see no robot modes for either building, there's no need for The Metroplex to convert at all, and Fortress Maximus could open up some guns and weapons, but nothing too drastic of a change in form.

[Sabrblade]

"Endgame, Part 1" has aired. The Downward Spiral has begun.

It's good to FINALLY see how Optimus got expelled, and how Prowl met his team.

Starscream at long last gets a new body, and the protoforms that were stolen are revealed to be onboard Megatron's old warship and were used to create Starscream's clones. Now Megs used them to create three Omega Supreme clones (that are surprisingly NOT Omega Sentinels). Notice that, prior to Lugnut obtaining the code from Arcee, the Omega clones were already in his color scheme. And now that they've got his head look, I'll call them "Omega Lugnuts".

BIGGEST MASTERFORCE REFERENCE YET!!!!!! The winged jetpack Optimus uses has God Ginrai wings! I say God Ginrai instead of PMOP w/ Apex Armor because of the reason he needs them. Prime said he needs the jetpack to keep up with Megatron and fight him on the moon. This is extremely identical to the reason why Ginrai needed his Godbomber upgrade: to fight on the moon against Overlord and BlackZarak.

At last the Female Starscream returns. Yay.

And now I REALLY can't wait for Part 2, where we'll get to see When Legends Fall, but hopefully they'll come out triumphant.

[mitchsantona]

Just watched Endgame 1. I can't believe there's going to be enough time to wrap up this series in the next episode. To set up a season 4 perhaps, but not to wrap up every plot point. BTW was Femmescream's name in the credits? Didn't catch it if it was.

[Sabrblade]

Just watched Endgame 1. I can't believe there's going to be enough time to wrap up this series in the next episode. To set up a season 4 perhaps, but not to wrap up every plot point. BTW was Femmescream's name in the credits? Didn't catch it if it was.

Yes she was. She was credited as "Female Starscream".

[TylerDante69]

Kind of a let down.


Some scenes are just wasted and not needed.


Hopefully part 2 will pick up and show an all out war between ALL Decepticons vs. ALL Autobots

[mitchsantona]

I was hoping that the rest of the Decepticons were on the moon already, and they would meet up with them before they assaulted Earth.
Also what are the SAG rules on voice actors? I think there can only be so many in one episode so to have all of the characters in an all out battle would have to be minus a few voices. That could be a reason too. (Although all of the male Starscreams are Tom Kenney)

[Rial Vestro]

Deal Metal already suggested that. But that still doesn't work out as, once the war was over, they didn't have any need for any giant robots as (an unfair) peace had settled.

If they were to have needed any giant robots, they wouldn't simply make new ones if they already had Omega Supreme. They would just simply repair him, as "A Bridge Too Close" showed us this was possible.

Besides, in this series, The Metroplex is basically this series' version of the Council Citadel from Beast Machines. Not to mention that-- Oh, forget it. I'm not repeating what I said before. Just read this:

Were you watching the same "A Bridge to Close" that I watched because it was not as easy to repair Omega Supreme as you're makeing it sound. Ratchet had been trying to repair him sence the end of the war with little success and only managed to get him online with the help of several allspark fragments and Sari's key.

Pluse there's been several moments on the show where other characters have mentioned Omega Supreme being offline. Apperently only Ratchet, Ultra Magnus, and maybe the crew who built Omega in the first place knew he was only in stasis.

Besides why settle for one giant robot when you can make more of them. Even in pease times, yes the goverment is still developing weapons for any possible future threats that may show up.

[Rial Vestro]

I was hoping that the rest of the Decepticons were on the moon already, and they would meet up with them before they assaulted Earth.
Also what are the SAG rules on voice actors? I think there can only be so many in one episode so to have all of the characters in an all out battle would have to be minus a few voices. That could be a reason too. (Although all of the male Starscreams are Tom Kenney)

I'm not even sure voice actors are included with the Screen Actors Guild sence they're not technically ever on screen. Either way I don't think there'd be any rule about haveing all of them in a single episode but there'd still be characters without lines for the simple reason that they can't possibly give every single character a line in a 15 min. long episode.

Anyway, I'm not sure, but did they use parts from Optimus Prime's trailer to make that jet pack? That trailer has just been useless vehicle mode detailing up till now if it is. Wander if that's a toy we'll never see or that it will be in the Universe toy line. (I allready seen Animated Cybertron Mode Prowl in the Universe toy line on Hasbro's web site)

Shockwave reverts back to his old coloring as he Transforms into Longarm in front of Arcee. Why is it she actully notices Megatron but never noticed Shockwave transforming in front of her right before that. In fact the whole time she was online she didn't seem to be aware of anything that was happening around her till she saw Megatron. That bit with Megatron seemed rather random to me after they made it clear she was blissfully unaware.

Ultra Magnus lost all of his "jerk" factor in this episode sence it exsplained that he actully wanted Optimus to be his replacement allthough it allso looked like Ultra Magnus isn't an all powerfull leader. He said he had to pull some strings to get Optimus his own ship to command which would mean he tried to have him reinstated in the Elite Guard but didn't have much of a choice. I'm guessing his job is alot more like the president of the United States and the Autobot council is congress.

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Oh I allmost forgot, did anyone catch the Ironman reference?

Optimus Prime's first flight test without wings was allmost an exact reinactment of Ironman's first flight test from the movie right down to the dialog that was spoken.

And Ultra Magnus refrenced the original TF pilot with his line "More than meets the optic sensor"

[harvester]

Anyone else notice the G1 Shockwave gun hand on the "Omega Lugnuts"? =P

and I guess we now know what the "Wingblade Optimus Prime" from the pre-order list is based on now. Wonder if they'll get around to HydroDive Bumblebee in the next episode.. probably not =|

Just watched Endgame 1. I can't believe there's going to be enough time to wrap up this series in the next episode. To set up a season 4 perhaps, but not to wrap up every plot point. BTW was Femmescream's name in the credits? Didn't catch it if it was.

I feel the same way as you. What happened to all those other Decepticons that we only saw for an episode [and Autobots as well, Hotrod/Rodimus dead from the rust?)? Was that just a little treat for longtime fans and nothing more for the Animated storyline [on tv at least]. It really seems like there might be more to the series but it sounds like we might not hear more till Botcon whether there will be more seasons or more comics/etc to expand the story. I was really really really hoping the botcon theme this year was based on Animated. I'm still hoping they'll have a female Starscream exclusive there but again... probably not =(

[Sabrblade]

-=edit=-

Oh I allmost forgot, did anyone catch the Ironman reference?

Optimus Prime's first flight test without wings was allmost an exact reinactment of Ironman's first flight test from the movie right down to the dialog that was spoken.

And Ultra Magnus refrenced the original TF pilot with his line "More than meets the optic sensor"

I caught that. In fact, I was hoping that, after he crashed during the first test, he would get doused by water like how Tony got doused by his robot during each of his tests.

Also, Ratchet said something similar in "TransWarped" to what Magnus said: "More than meets the viz-scanners."

[Sabrblade]

Anyone else notice the G1 Shockwave gun hand on the "Omega Lugnuts"? =P

Omega Supreme had it too. It only looks Shockwave-esque due to it being purple.

What happened to all those other Decepticons that we only saw for an episode [and Autobots as well, Hotrod/Rodimus dead from the rust?)? Was that just a little treat for longtime fans and nothing more for the Animated storyline [on tv at least].

Rodimus Prime is alive. He and his team were seen in the crowd shot in "Decepticon Air". As for Team Chaar, they're somewhere. But that big fight at the beginning of "TransWarped" was their only major appearance. Both teams are done for the series and may only appear in crowd scenes.

[Tristar]

Couple of Anime references: Dirtboss is reference to Tegen Toppa Prowl looked like he was charging a Spirit Bomb....


Did anyone else notice that Optimus Prime's jetpack looked alot like the one Sideswipe gave to G1 Optimus Prime?

[mitchsantona]

I wasn't a fan of Starscream getting ripped into pieces either, right after he finally got his body back. He's still invincible though at least.

[harvester]

I wasn't a fan of Starscream getting ripped into pieces either, right after he finally got his body back. He's still invincible though at least.

I thought Megatron was going to vaporize him like in the movie =P

I also liked the 2 different jetpacks they used on Prime, the first a nod to G1 jetfire/skyfire and the second one reminded me of the Galaxy Force/Cybertron Optimus Prime when his trailer wings are on. Is that the same as God Ginrai wings? Im not familiar with any other series besides G1 and Animated =\

[Sabrblade]

I wasn't a fan of Starscream getting ripped into pieces either, right after he finally got his body back. He's still invincible though at least.

I thought Megatron was going to vaporize him like in the movie =P

I also liked the 2 different jetpacks they used on Prime, the first a nod to G1 jetfire/skyfire and the second one reminded me of the Galaxy Force/Cybertron Optimus Prime when his trailer wings are on. Is that the same as God Ginrai wings? Im not familiar with any other series besides G1 and Animated =\

His winged jetpack is definitely a God Ginrai reference. Not just in the wings, but the gauntlets he wears with the jetpack too.

[mitchsantona]

I wasn't a fan of Starscream getting ripped into pieces either, right after he finally got his body back. He's still invincible though at least.

I thought Megatron was going to vaporize him like in the movie =P

I also liked the 2 different jetpacks they used on Prime, the first a nod to G1 jetfire/skyfire and the second one reminded me of the Galaxy Force/Cybertron Optimus Prime when his trailer wings are on. Is that the same as God Ginrai wings? Im not familiar with any other series besides G1 and Animated =\

His winged jetpack is definitely a God Ginrai reference. Not just in the wings, but the gauntlets he wears with the jetpack too.

I wonder if the figure will have the guantlets? (And maybe the Magnus Hammer)

[Sabrblade]

I wasn't a fan of Starscream getting ripped into pieces either, right after he finally got his body back. He's still invincible though at least.

I thought Megatron was going to vaporize him like in the movie =P

I also liked the 2 different jetpacks they used on Prime, the first a nod to G1 jetfire/skyfire and the second one reminded me of the Galaxy Force/Cybertron Optimus Prime when his trailer wings are on. Is that the same as God Ginrai wings? Im not familiar with any other series besides G1 and Animated =\

His winged jetpack is definitely a God Ginrai reference. Not just in the wings, but the gauntlets he wears with the jetpack too.

I wonder if the figure will have the guantlets? (And maybe the Magnus Hammer)

I'm sure it'll have the gauntlets (or at least remolded lower arms), but the Magnus Hammer already comes with Ultra Magnus so I doubt it'll be included.

[mitchsantona]

I also noticed Sue Blu did Arcee's voice. It fit perfectly because I can hear a bit of her age creeping in, which coincides with Ratchet's age.

[Rial Vestro]

I also noticed Sue Blu did Arcee's voice. It fit perfectly because I can hear a bit of her age creeping in, which coincides with Ratchet's age.

Susan Blu has been doing Animated Arcee's voice sence she was first introduced.

I would of said she's been doing Arcee's voice sence G1 but I'm not sure if Energon Arcee made an appearance on the show or not. I don't think she did or if she did I don't think she had any lines but was just a backround character.

But anyway, Arcee might be the only Transformer with multiple incarnations never to recive a new voice actor. (heck some transformers with only one incarnation have multiple voice actors.)

[Sabrblade]

I also noticed Sue Blu did Arcee's voice. It fit perfectly because I can hear a bit of her age creeping in, which coincides with Ratchet's age.

I would of said she's been doing Arcee's voice sence G1 but I'm not sure if Energon Arcee made an appearance on the show or not. I don't think she did or if she did I don't think she had any lines but was just a backround character.

But anyway, Arcee might be the only Transformer with multiple incarnations never to recive a new voice actor. (heck some transformers with only one incarnation have multiple voice actors.)

Energon Arcee did appear in the show as the Omnicons' single commander. However, she was voiced by Sharon Alexander.

[Rodimus2006]

I was kinda of disapointed with Endgame prt 1 I know this is just a set up episode for prt 2. but still it was kinda of disapointing comapared to other episodes.

If this is really Animated final swanton I thought for sure Endgame would be more exciting than that not full of flash back scenes with OP and company showing how everything came to be.

I mean I do enjoy them but come on man these are possibly the last 2 episodes of animated ever. I repeat I said possibly the last 2 not necessarily the last.

They are suppose to be an announcement about Animated rather it will be about the cancellation of the show or an additional 4th season remains a mystery at the moment.

I sincerly hope we get an additional 4th season like many people on here say they are no way you can close at animated with just 2 episodes no way man.

Look at all the unanswered questions left to be answered also one of the biggest mysteries still hasnt been fully explained "THE FULL TRUTH BEHIND THE ORIGINS OF SARI".

Although I am quiet confident that Endgame will be alot more more exciting compared to prt 1. I just hope they can cover more ground considering this could be the last 2 final episodes of the series I hope I am wrong on this.

I guess we will find out what Endgame 2 will bring to the table this coming saturday.

Hey dont get me wrong I really did like the episode this past weekend but for an season or season finale episode it really didnt feel that epic like last year's season 2 finale "A Bridge Too Close.

I though OP looked cool in his Jet Pack also OP used a Jet pack in Generation 1 season 1 when he rocketed after Megatron Starship. But it wasnt his rocket pack rather it was Sideswipe's.

I cant wait for it rather it is the the ending or not I really have enjoyed Animated.